Re: [AOLSERVER] Suggestions for a future aolserver

2012-09-27 Thread John Buckman from BookMooch
> I was thinking about this also. There is a nsmemcache module for > naviserver, but it uses some of the C apis that have been changed > slightly in naviserver, so it doesn't work with aolserver, but it > shouldn't be difficult to port. memcached is lovely, but what makes ns_cache so fast is th

Re: [AOLSERVER] Suggestions for a future aolserver

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Rogers
John Buckman wrote: > SUGGESTIONS FOR A FUTURE AOLSERVER > > The "state of the art" is, I think, happening in the javascript world, > with things such as node.js. If the aolserver community were really > interested in getting new users, making it a top notch > embedded-javascript web server would b

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Rogers
jgdavid...@mac.com wrote: > > and those NS_IMPORT/NS_EXPORT > declarations. Those are less of a windows-only thing now. Some recent version of gcc introduced visibility attributes which are supposed to be super good for improving link times or something like that, so unix with a new-enough gcc

Re: [AOLSERVER] Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread jgdavidson
How about making AolServer nothing more than a TEA-compliant extension? Maybe we could create an "ns_main" command that created a thread that did all the AolServer stuff (i.e., listen on sockets, create connection pools, etc. etc.) and just run it in tclsh. I never looked at TEA close enoug

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread jgdavidson
Howdy, The point about libraries only available on Windows is a compelling reason for some support, given it mostly works today. Honestly, AolServer isn't so bad at supporting Windows. I wrote most of the cross-platform code and was able to smash down quite a bit of the differences. The ap

[AOLSERVER] Suggestions for a future aolserver

2012-09-27 Thread John Buckman
SUGGESTIONS FOR A FUTURE AOLSERVER The "state of the art" is, I think, happening in the javascript world, with things such as node.js. If the aolserver community were really interested in getting new users, making it a top notch embedded-javascript web server would be a way. I'm not sure this

[AOLSERVER] why we've been moving to aolserver

2012-09-27 Thread John Buckman from BookMooch
On the apache vs aolserver topic, I just want to mention that we've been migrating sites *off* of Apache/PHP/Perl, and onto aolserver, for the past 2 years. http://moodmixes.com/ was launched last year, http://ilicensemusic.com/ a few weeks ago, and we're currently rewriting http://magnatune.co

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread John Buckman from BookMooch
Naviserver has added a lot of interesting features, and appears to be fairly mature. I would have probably switched to Naviserver two years ago if they had documented some of their changes. The quantity of the contributions, and the interesting nature of many of them, make me feel that Naviser

Re: [AOLSERVER] Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Rogers
Maurizio Martignano wrote: > Dear all, > I do not think that removing Windows specific code is a good idea. Hi Maurizio, You make a good argument for keeping windows support. There is a cost of some added complexity, but I don't think that's unreasonable. The biggest challenges are keepi

Re: [AOLSERVER] Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Hobbs
On 2012-09-27, at 1:56 AM, Maurizio Martignano wrote: > So what are the feasible options? > I believe there are only two (well three) options: > 1. we maintain the Windows code inside Aolserver (I favour this) > 2. we compile Unix only code via the SUA SDK > 3. we forget about Windows and we use

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread Torben Brosten
Has anyone analyzed Naviserver performance and features vs. AOLserver lately? It appears to remain compatible with Windows. The following forum post suggests Naviserver may be a contributing factor to a significant overall performance increase: http://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 09:07:07AM -0600, jgdavid...@mac.com wrote: > Should we dump the Windows port in favor of a clean Unix code base, > configure, build, and install? Cross-platform portability is very Nice to Have, and I've actually used it. Fortunately I've never had to deal with or even l

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap, Live Cycle & Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread Scott Goodwin
It appears there is enough consternation about removing Windows support that I doubt figuring out how to run AOLserver on Windows sans the Windows-specific code in the codebase would result in having the Windows code removed anyway, so I am rescinding my suggestion that we find a way to do so.

[AOLSERVER] Roadmap, Live Cycle & Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread Frank Bergmann
Hi! I believe that it is important to consider the current phase of the "live cycle" of AOLserver in order to focus the roadmap on the important stuff: - AOLserver is "mature" software, there were relatively few changes in the last few years. There are very large productive installations re

Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyond

2012-09-27 Thread Brett Schwarz
First, Jeff thanks for initiating this thread...all the ideas seem good. One note below. - Original Message - > From: Jeff Rogers > To: Ayan George > Cc: aolserver-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] Roadmap - 4.6 and beyo

[AOLSERVER] Windows Support

2012-09-27 Thread Maurizio Martignano
Dear all, I do not think that removing Windows specific code is a good idea. Some time ago I showed as example how many people have downloaded ]project-open[ on Windows as opposed to the VM, or the tar ball. In case you do not remember the numbers, please have a look at this URL: http://sou

[AOLSERVER] TCL websockets Implementation

2012-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Winkler
Hi! I've cleaned up our websockets code a bit (ah, the joy of it), it should run now on a basic AOLserver install. Where should I post it? Wolfgang -- digital concepts OG Software & Design Landstrasse 68 / 5. Stock A - 4020 Linz Büro: +43 732 99711772 Mobil: +43 699 19971172 --