Re: [Apertium-stuff] PMC proposal

2020-04-09 Thread Samuel Sloniker
No particular reason, it just seems fairly popular. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 10:45 Jonathan Washington < jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why Material and not some other standard? > > -- > Jonathan > > 8 apr 2020, Ç. tarixində 16:02 tarixində Samuel Sloniker > y

Re: [Apertium-stuff] PMC proposal

2020-04-09 Thread Samuel Sloniker
ose options. Proposing one > option with no reasoning (except that it "seems fairly popular") or > context is unlikely to win anyone over. > > -- > Jonathan > > 9 apr 2020, C.a. tarixində 13:47 tarixində Samuel Sloniker > yazdı: > > > > No particular

[Apertium-stuff] PMC proposal

2020-04-08 Thread Samuel Sloniker
(for the next PMC) http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/PMC_proposals/Use_Material_Design ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator Android app has gone ... offline.

2020-04-07 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Also, if anyone needs an APK, I could extract it and send it. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 05:31 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > I personally like 1 or 4. Also, I think this is a good opportunity to use > Material Design. > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 02:44 Tino Didriksen wrote: > >> Well,

[Apertium-stuff] US export laws

2020-04-07 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I was just thinking about the US export laws. Since I live in the US, my contributions are technically exports. Is there anything special I should agree to or do differently to avoid the embargoes? On second thought, GitHub is also subject to those laws, so possibly none of our code is accessible

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator Android app has gone ... offline.

2020-04-07 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I personally like 1 or 4. Also, I think this is a good opportunity to use Material Design. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 02:44 Tino Didriksen wrote: > Well, that makes sense from a security point of view. And that is a good > reason to revive the native port, which I talked about on IRC but never >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Contracts

2020-04-07 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Okay, thanks! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 22:57 Mikel L. Forcada wrote: > Hi Samuel: > > the few contracts we've had were signed by me as president. There is no > reason to worry, as Fran will be doing that too. > > Best, > > Mikel > > > El 7/4/20 a les 2:44, Samu

Re: [Apertium-stuff] US export laws

2020-04-07 Thread Samuel Sloniker
; > So as a matter of law, you don't have to do anything different. You're not > directly contributing to restricted countries. > > -- Tino Didriksen > > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 14:45, Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > >> I was just thinking about the US export laws. Sinc

[Apertium-stuff] Contracts

2020-04-06 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I have a question about the PMC. I wasn't elected this year, but I plan to run again in 2022. The problem is that then, I'll be 15, still too young to sign contracts. If I do get elected in 2022, could I give one or both of my parents permission under the Bylaws to sign things on my behalf?

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-20 Thread Samuel Sloniker
1. I oppose allowing the Secretary and Treasurer to be the same person. 2. Using additional criteria for tiebreaking could easily turn into a rigged election. 3. I believe there should be a court of some sort for handling violations. See the Bylaw Violation Court in

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-21 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I just don't like giving one group too much power. Maybe I've spent too much time studying the US Constitution.  On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 08:56 Jonathan Washington < jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 17:57 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > >&

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-21 Thread Samuel Sloniker
er—mostly just > responsibility. Or, what power are you talking about? > > -- > Jonathan > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 12:36 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > >> I just don't like giving one group too much power. Maybe I've spent too >> much time studying the US Constitution. 

Re: [Apertium-stuff] PMC proposal

2020-04-12 Thread Samuel Sloniker
using Apertium. And a website of > that kind, will work the same on any web browser (or more than 99 %) > presently used. > > Your proposal is to develop specific web interfaces done to work > only on several platforms as there are sotfware only working on > Windows (for example).

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium offline translator Android app has gone ... offline.

2020-04-10 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Or, they might have reviewed the source, in which case using encryption would possibly make them permanently ban the app for being "sneaky". On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:25 Mikel Artetxe wrote: > Hi, > > Just to clarify, this was not the reason why Mitzuli was removed from the > Play Store, but

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Election Results

2020-04-04 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Just a quick question... If I was not eligible to run due to not being a Committer, why was my vote counted? On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 11:55 AM Daniel Swanson wrote: > Hi Apertiumers! > > The election proceedings are now complete and the votes have been tallied > as follows: > > Votes: 41 > For

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Election Results

2020-04-04 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Okay, so I wasn't disqualified from not being a Committer by the strict definition, that was just used as a tie breaker? On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Hèctor Alòs i Font wrote: > Missatge de Samuel Sloniker del dia ds., 4 d’abr. > 2020 a les 22:11: > >> Just a quick q

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Election Results

2020-04-04 Thread Samuel Sloniker
t; > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > >> Okay, so I wasn't disqualified from not being a Committer by the strict >> definition, that was just used as a tie breaker? >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 12:36 PM Hèctor Alòs i Font >>

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-28 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Again, I believe the PMC should not be involved in removing Committer access, even temporarily. I think a separate elected group should do that. On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:45 PM Tino Didriksen wrote: > It's been a week since last comment on the PR. Everyone is happy with how > the new Bylaws

Re: [Apertium-stuff] List of verbs

2020-04-28 Thread Samuel Sloniker
> Yes, me I rather do that instead of > > > > (|||) > > > > and I also use fgrep and egrep instead of grep -F and grep -E > > as it was/(is ?) in UNIX. > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 10:40:39 -0700 > > > From: Samuel Slo

Re: [Apertium-stuff] List of verbs

2020-04-26 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Shouldn't also work? On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:25 AM Daniel Swanson wrote: > Also, to explain the patterns > > [^<:>]+ is "match any string of characters that doesn't contain a tag or a > colon" > > So the grep is "anything without tags or colons (i.e. a surface form) then > a colon then

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the apertium stream format toinclude arbitrary information

2020-04-21 Thread Samuel Sloniker
FST = finite state transducer On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 16:15 Bernard Chardonneau wrote: > > Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:35:36 +0530 > > From: Tanmai Khanna > > To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > > Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Modifying the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-29 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I am not suggesting the Assembly immediately do it. I am suggesting that at the time of each PMC election, the Assembly elect a separate group that would handle removals. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:50 AM Tino Didriksen wrote: > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 18:27, Samuel Sloniker > wrote: >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-29 Thread Samuel Sloniker
nd needing to consult another slow and potentially offline > party. It just doesn't work in practice. > > On top of that, it would further complicate elections. > > I recognize you want the three estates, but it's not practical. > > -- Tino Didriksen > > > On Wed, 29

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-30 Thread Samuel Sloniker
uch on that. > -- > Xavi Ivars > < http://xavi.ivars.me > > > El dc., 29 d’abr. 2020, 18:56, Samuel Sloniker va > escriure: > >> Okay. Maybe at least have a group appointed by the PMC and confirmed by >> the Assembly that at least has the power to interpret t

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-30 Thread Samuel Sloniker
That way, we don't have to complicate things now. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:44 PM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > Another possibility is to allow the Assembly to amend the bylaws without > involving the PMC, so we can handle abuse of power when and if it happens. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-30 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Also, can we remove the need for PMC sponsorship for getting voting rights? IMO, just contributing should be enough. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:07 PM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > Basically, the PMC can do almost anything, therefore, they could remove > committers for no good reason, abuse t

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-04-30 Thread Samuel Sloniker
AM Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > >> That way, we don't have to complicate things now. >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 7:44 PM Samuel Sloniker >> wrote: >> >>> Another possibility is to allow the Assembly to amend the bylaws without >>> involving

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Bylaws Overhaul Proposal

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Oh, okay, Regarding amendments, it appears that there is no process for amending the bylaws. Would it just be a normal PMC decision with the approval of the Assembly? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:18 PM Tino Didriksen wrote: > Replied inline... > > On Fri, 1 May 2020, Samuel Slonik

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Secondary Tag Prefixes

2020-05-10 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Would it be worth designing a parsing library? On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 3:15 AM Flammie A Pirinen wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 04:50:45PM +0200, Tino Didriksen wrote: > > For khannatanmai's GSoC project, secondary tags will be implemented in a > > backwards compatible manner. That it in

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Secondary Tag Prefixes

2020-05-14 Thread Samuel Sloniker
or any part of the pipeline (either to tests a specific command, to > write tests,...) > > So I would *recommend *having short lowercase prefixes, that make it easy > to understand (or, at least, remember once seen once) what the secondary > tag is about. > > > Missatge

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Need help to decide language pairs for examples of markup handling

2020-09-09 Thread Samuel Sloniker
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 02:34 Tanmai Khanna wrote: > (Accepting snazzier title suggestions). > Maybe "Web" instead of "internet"? > ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Apertium-stuff] We need more evaluators

2020-08-21 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Could this be done using a dictionary without knowing one of the languages? On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 02:24 Mikel L. Forcada wrote: > Dear Daniel: > > Thanks a million for your message. > > please contact Shashwat Goel > so that he can send you the > evaluation files. > > As to contributing to

Re: [Apertium-stuff] How useful is eliminating trimming for language developers?

2020-05-25 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Maybe make trimming the default, but make apertium-init disable it for new pairs? On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:01 Tino Didriksen wrote: > On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 12:29, Xavi Ivars wrote: > >> * In the trimming disadvantages number 1, we're stating that we're OK >> having crappy monodixes because we

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

2020-09-20 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Could/would we self-host? The ToS say: "You must obey all local and US laws in the course of using the service." On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:02 AM Francis Tyers wrote: > El 2020-09-20 18:46, Mikel L. Forcada escribió: > > Fran: > > > > could you be more specific about the "terrible stuff"? > > >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] let's move the mailing lists to sourcehut

2020-09-20 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I've also thought about the possibility of a forum? Discourse looks nice. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 19:11 Flammie A Pirinen wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 06:04:35PM +0100, Francis Tyers wrote: > > Sourcehut is a free/open-source "forge" type thing run by Drew DeVault. > They > > have > > mailing

Re: [Apertium-stuff] dev.apertium.org for Apertium dev/collab work

2020-07-01 Thread Samuel Sloniker
May I have a non-root/non-sudoer account for testing begiak? I just need port 1234 opened if there is a firewall. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:30 AM Tino Didriksen wrote: > If someone needs a powerful machine to run tests on or collaborate on > other Apertium-related tasks, there is one available

[Apertium-stuff] Open-Source Code-in (was Potential replacement for GCI)

2020-06-23 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Since I emailed apertium-stuff last, Haiku is participating, and there are developers from a couple other orgs too. The IRC channel is #osci on Freenode if anyone wants to join. ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

2020-06-14 Thread Samuel Sloniker
If we do have a new election, can we vote on the new bylaws first, so we use STV? On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 04:01 Francis Tyers wrote: > El 2020-06-14 11:51, Hèctor Alòs i Font escribió: > > Missatge de Francis Tyers del dia dg., 14 de > > juny 2020 a les 10:32: > > > >> El 2020-06-13 23:18,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-10 Thread Samuel Sloniker
It might also be good to focus more on the non-coding ways of contributing. On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 21:25 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > Hi, > Google has cancelled Google Code-in. I was wondering if Apertium could > start a replacement. Perhaps we could partner with some other FOSS > o

[Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-10 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Hi, Google has cancelled Google Code-in. I was wondering if Apertium could start a replacement. Perhaps we could partner with some other FOSS organizations? ___ Apertium-stuff mailing list Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
In donations (We have quite a lot of money which we > could spend, BTW, around ~40 k€). > > On the other hand, reaching out to young developers so that they join our > community is absolutely necessary for the survival of Apertium. > > Any ideas? > > Mikel > > > [1] >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
By GitHub integration, I mean a PR could be linked to a task, and when the PR was merged, the task would be completed. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:31 AM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > Cool idea! However, I don't do social media; perhaps someone else could > post there? > Also, I'm working on

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
ps://joinmastodon.org/ > > @m...@fosstodon.org > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:25 PM Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Google has cancelled Google Code-in. I was wondering if Apertium could > start a replacement. Perhaps we could partner with some oth

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I created a Google Group (private to avoid spam), anyone who wants to join can ask. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:49 AM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > By GitHub integration, I mean a PR could be linked to a task, and when the > PR was merged, the task would be completed. > > On Thu, Jun 11,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
irc://chat.freenode.net/#recodein (#recodein on freenode) On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:03 AM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > I was also thinking about getting some other orgs involved, like GCI. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:59 AM Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > >> I created a Google Gr

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I was also thinking about getting some other orgs involved, like GCI. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:59 AM Samuel Sloniker wrote: > I created a Google Group (private to avoid spam), anyone who wants to join > can ask. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:49 AM Samuel Sloniker > wrote:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Sure! Just added you. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 10:08 abhishek chopra wrote: > Can I join the Google group? > > On Thu, 11 Jun, 2020, 8:30 pm Samuel Sloniker, > wrote: > >> I created a Google Group (private to avoid spam), anyone who wants to >> join can ask. >> &

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-12 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I'm adding everyone who has sent an email to this conversation. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 6:46 AM Sevilay Bayatlı wrote: > could you add me to the group? > > Sevilay > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:45 AM Samuel Sloniker > wrote: > >> Does anyone have any good name idea

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-12 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Could apertium feasibily give out six t-shirts out like gci did? On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 07:33 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > I'm adding everyone who has sent an email to this conversation. > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 6:46 AM Sevilay Bayatlı > wrote: > >> could you add me to the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium's Wider Use & Secondary Tags

2020-06-13 Thread Samuel Sloniker
I'm not familiar enough with the pipeline to completely understand this, but arbitrary inline secondary tags with short textual prefixes do seem the most logical. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 7:21 AM Tino Didriksen wrote: > I would like everyone to read and seriously consider this thread and give >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-13 Thread Samuel Sloniker
l 12/6/20 a les 22:53, Samuel Sloniker ha escrit: > > Could apertium feasibily give out six t-shirts out like gci did?i > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 07:33 Samuel Sloniker wrote: > >> I'm adding everyone who has sent an email to this conversation. >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Potential replacement for GCI

2020-06-11 Thread Samuel Sloniker
Does anyone have any good name ideas? I thought about ReCodeIn, but there could be trademark issues (and the "re" could confuse those not familiar with GCI). I also thought of FOSS for Teens (FFT), but that doesn't seem very creative. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:22 AM Samuel Sloni