Re: Apple-Crop: Strains of Red Delicious

2007-05-10 Thread dmnorton
We have been removing our Red delicious trees for the past 3 years and replacing with Ginger Gold, Sansa, Crispin, Early Auvil Fuji and Honeycrisp. But we have kept our Dixie Red Delicious since it has become a customer favorite over standard Red Delicious. Dixie Red Delicious has an intense a

Re: Apple-Crop: pruning video

2007-05-12 Thread dmnorton
Pat, The order form for the Penn State Pruning video can be found at http://adams.extension.psu.edu/Agriculture/PDF%20files/PruningHarvestOrderForm.pdf and the site link to the Adams County Extension is http://adams.extension.psu.edu/. The address and phone is: Penn State Cooperative Extens

Re: Apple-Crop: Orchard sprayer identification request

2007-06-22 Thread dmnorton
Sara, Sounds like your sprayer is similar to ours. My son, Paul, has had the same problem with our Durand-Weyland 500 gallon sprayer, but he was able to fix it so it would not come out of alignment. If you can take a photo of the sprayer and the pulley assembly and send it to me, I will check

Re: Apple-Crop: Early season hail damage

2007-06-23 Thread dmnorton
I'm curious. Did anyone experiencing hail damage do a strep spray within 24 hours of the hail (trauma)? Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com http://www.revivalhymn.com - Original Message - From: Daryl Hunt

Re: Apple-Crop: Iron in irrigation well

2007-06-27 Thread dmnorton
We are in northern Illinois and have the same problem. We use a phosphoric acid injection system once per season to clean out the system. We have 7 wells around the orchard, but use only 2 for irrigation with 2 pump houses. The system is not very expensive and we picked it up from Trickl-eez

Re: Apple-Crop: Referral needed - orchards and sheep

2007-06-27 Thread dmnorton
If you run livestock in your orchard and your orchard is a U-Pick orchard, just don't let your liability insurance company know you have livestock among your trees. Ours requires the orchard be fenced in to keep livestock out! Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard http://www.royaloakfarmorchar

Re: Apple-Crop: Fruit cracking/splitting

2007-08-03 Thread dmnorton
From what I understand, there are two types of fruit cracking,both of which are genetic. We have had an issue with it in Gala is the past. "Physiological Cracking" often occurs on Stayman and other varieties when a high percentage of fruit may split or crack, starting in July. This type of c

Re: Apple-Crop: Apple Harvest

2007-09-13 Thread dmnorton
We were running about a week ahead of schedule until this week when the temps started hitting the 40's at night and 60's during the day. We are about 1 mile south of the Wisconsin/Illinois border. Now we seem to be just about right since we have hit the lows of 41 and 43 over the past several n

Re: Apple-Crop: U-Pick whining

2007-10-25 Thread dmnorton
Excellent point, Ken. Sounded like the author was much more interested in price than quality or the time well spent with family building a family tradition. Being a 2 hour drive from downtown Chicago, I am amazed at how many families will travel that distance for the "experience " of picking a

Apple-Crop: Latest on Edwards Apple Orchard Hit by Tornado

2008-01-07 Thread dmnorton
5:41 p.m.: Edwards Apple Orchard buildings damaged; orchard remains intact The owner of Edwards Apple Orchard says the eight buildings on his property bore the brunt of the damage from the tornado that ripped through Boone County this afternoon, but the popular orchard remains intact. Ken and

Re: Apple-Crop: wanted: Bean sprayer hitch

2008-03-07 Thread dmnorton
David, Would a Model 5170, 1170, 5200, 1200 swivel clevis work. If so you might be able to get a replacement at http://johnbeansprayers.durand-wayland.com/ . We have a Durand-Wayland air blast that is about 15 years old and have good luck getting parts through them. It still works great!

Re: Apple-Crop: Pick-Your-Own

2008-04-03 Thread dmnorton
Elizabeth, The best overall guide to fruit tree production I have come across is Penn State's Fruit Tree Production Guide. You can find it at http://tfpg.cas.psu.edu/Default.htm. Part I is on establishing the orchard. Part IX is on farm management and includes budget worksheets for both "fre

Re: Apple-Crop: Honeycrisp

2008-06-03 Thread dmnorton
We have around 2,000 Honeycrisp on B9, M26 and M9. All are planted at 4 X 14 since we replanted in rows already established at 14' apart and have trained to tall spindle. We have removed about 2,000 M111 and M7 Gala, Braeburn and Jonathan that were upwards of 15 years old to replace with the s

Re: Apple-Crop: Hail in the Great Lakes area

2008-06-21 Thread dmnorton
We are located on the Illinois/Wisconsin state line just south of Lake Geneva, WI and have missed all of the hail. I use Weather Underground to track storms and almost all of the storms have either tracked south or north of us. Weather Underground provides storm cell information that includes

Re: Apple-Crop: wireless credit card machines

2008-07-15 Thread dmnorton
The wireless credit card terminals are only as good as the "signal" you would get in the location of the terminal. If you get a 3 to 4 bar signal (AT&T bars) and the signal is always consistent, then they will work quite well. But if the signal is week or sporadic, they do not work as well. W

Re: Apple-Crop: Apple tree support systems

2008-11-13 Thread dmnorton
David, We use several different trellis methods with M26, M7, M111, B9 and M9. We have used a 2 wire, three wire and 4 wire with tree spacing at 10', 8', 6', 4' and 3'. All of outr systems have held up to winds up to 75 MPH, especially last January when the tornadoes went through and hit Edw

Re: Apple-Crop: Stooling Beds

2009-01-31 Thread dmnorton
Lee, In my research I have come across the "Farmer Trainer training manual on Tree Crop Propagation and Management" that has a module on stooling. The manual can be found at http://www.gtz-treecrops.org/TrainingManuals.htm and the module in PDF format is at http://www.gtz-treecrops.org/Downlo

Re: Apple-Crop: copper compatibility with Strobilurins and Inspire/Vangard

2009-02-19 Thread dmnorton
Bill, My experience has been that it is going to depend on the individual product. My best advice would be to check the label of each product you paln to use to check compatibility and tank mix requirements as well. I use http://www.cdms.net/LabelsMsds/LMDefault.aspx?t= all the time and even

Re: Apple-Crop: Pruning established open-center apple trees

2009-02-22 Thread dmnorton
Steven, I don't know if you were looking to purchase a video, but I do have a video by Gary Moulton that is one of the best I have seen on all aspects of pruning, including the pruning of open center trees. It's available on my blog at http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com. I hope this he

Re: Apple-Crop: Early bearing

2009-03-11 Thread dmnorton
We have found that branch bending has worked the best for us on B9 and M9 as well as M26. We use the rubber bands now and find that they require the least amount of time of any other technique. We use the bio-degradable in May and they are gone by August or just after terminals have set. With

Re: Apple-Crop: Early bearing

2009-03-11 Thread dmnorton
We purchase the 6" rubber bands from Peach Ridge Orchard Supply in Michigan. You can find the information on them at http://www.peachridge.com/treetraining/training.htm, third item down. Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard Office (815) 648-4467 Mobile (815) 228-2174 Fax (609) 228-2174 http://

Re: Apple-Crop: Thinning SunCrisp

2009-05-07 Thread dmnorton
One of the best little tools I have seen is Philip Schwallier's (from MSU) power point presentation on Enhancing Return Bloom with Summer NAA. We also grow Suncrisp and have used his various models with much success as part of our overall thinning program. Based on the recent article on the MS

Re: Apple-Crop: Fireblight Update

2009-07-15 Thread dmnorton
Axel, I am sure Dave's intent was not to threaten you, only help make us all aware of the requirements of federal law as it pertains to commercial apple growing. We, as professional growers, have an obligation to abide by federal law just as a physician has an obligation to abide by the Hippoc

Re: Apple-Crop: Pesticide Rates and Tree Row Volume

2010-01-21 Thread dmnorton
I have been reading the Pesticide Rates and Tree Row Volume thread with great interest. It is very timely since many of us are compiling our spray program for the 2010 season now. It seems to me to be one of the best discussions that has taken place in quite some time. It is the reason I belo

Re: Apple-Crop: Dodine and captane fungicides applied during bloom

2010-04-29 Thread dmnorton
Came across this article this morning and thought it quite interesting. http://westernfarmpress.com/mag/farming_fungicides_reduce_hinder/ Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL 60033-9357 Office (815) 648-4467 Mobile (815) 228-2174 Fax (609) 228-2174 http://www.royaloa

Re: Apple-Crop: Apple Maggot

2010-08-05 Thread dmnorton
Art, I have used Assail for apple maggot control for several seasons now with very good results. I have been able to time our sprays so any second generation of codling moth is usually hit as well. We just did our AM spray about a week ago for this season. I usually do not include Assail in

Re: Apple-Crop: Fruit Penetrometer

2010-08-20 Thread dmnorton
You can try http://www.cropmeters.com/Fruit-Firmness-Testers-Penetrometers/View-all-products.html these are much less expensive than the FT 327 McCormick Fruit Tester which is now about $250.00 . Hope this helps! Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL 60033-9357 Offi

Re: [apple-crop] spray program software

2012-02-29 Thread dmnorton
John, There is Trac Software from Cornell found at http://www.nysipm.cornell.edu/trac/ and a Spray Record Spreadsheet from Penn State at http://agsci.psu.edu/frec/resources/online-resources/2011Spraysheet.xls/view. Hope this helps! Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harv

Re: [apple-crop] Pellenc 2000 Battery Operated Pruner

2012-05-22 Thread dmnorton
Have you tried Pellenc America yet? Here is their phone and e-mail. Hope this helps! Pellenc Lixion available from Pellenc America Inc. 1042 Hopper Avenue Santa Rosa CA 95403 Tel 707.568.7286 pellen...@msn.com www.pellencus.com Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL

Re: [apple-crop] Assail

2012-08-27 Thread dmnorton
Our experience with Assail protection has been 7 to 14 days with a surfactant and no rain. I always subtract 2 days of efficacy for every 1" of rain. I came across an article back in '05 that discussed the new insecticides' effectiveness and saved a copy to http://royaloakfarmorchard.com/pdf

Re: [apple-crop] the American economy.

2012-09-15 Thread dmnorton
Here at Royal Oak Farm Orchard we have discovered how to make a FORTUNE selling U-Pick apples..start with a LARGE one! Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL 60033-9357 Office (815) 648-4467 Mobile (815) 228-2174 Fax (609) 228-2174 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard

Re: [apple-crop] Tree Row Volume and newer pesticide chemistries?

2012-10-26 Thread dmnorton
Don't know if this is what you are looking for Peter, but I have an article I got from a Cornell Cooperative Extension Publication at http://ipmguidelines.org/TreeFruits/Chapters/CH04/default-6.aspx which states: 1. It is the amount of water that changes, not the amount of pesticide per

Re: [apple-crop] M9-Nic29 winter hardiness

2013-10-24 Thread dmnorton
Hugh, we have been growing Granny Smith, Zestar and Pristine here at Royal Oak Farm on M9 in far northern Illinois for about 4 years now and have had good results. We also have Honeycrisp on Bud9 planted at the same time and they are half the size of the M9. We have decided to not use Bud9 ag

Re: [apple-crop] honey crisp prices

2014-01-29 Thread dmnorton
Cliff, with Kentucky being in Zones 6a, 6b, and 7a, are you sure Honeycrisp will gow there? They are typically a Zone 3,4 or 5 apple, doing better in Zone 3. If you end up planting Honeycrisp, it will be interesting to see if they do well for you! We have done blind taste tests with our custo

Re: [apple-crop] Peach question

2014-02-20 Thread dmnorton
>From what I have experienced, Mark, sounds like you are talking about callus >tissue that can appear around the pit. The tissue is not mold, fungus, >bacteria or the result of any type of disease. It is naturally occurring as >you say, and is entirely safe to eat along with the rest of the pea

Re: [apple-crop] Tall spindle trellis

2014-02-20 Thread dmnorton
I agree with your assumptions, Dave. We have over 200 rows of trees, about 1/3 being tall spindle. We build out trellises with 12' posts, typically 8" thick posts (6" on shorter rows of 400' or less) leaving 4 feet in the ground.and 8 above with our top trellis wire being on top of the post at

Re: [apple-crop] Codling Moth Trap and Attractant

2014-04-10 Thread dmnorton
Brian, If you have a significant number of trees to monitor, I would recommend the use of the trece Delta VI trap with liners and the CM-DA codling moth lure. The lures are good for about 8 wweks and the traps are reusable. I have some that I have used for 4 seasons. Much less expensive that

Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

2014-05-06 Thread dmnorton
My experience with the thousands of customers that we have had over the years is that once they form a perception of something, whether it be GMO's or organic vs conventionallly grown products, they stick to the preception that the media has given them. I now simply tell them that the best way t

Re: [apple-crop] Apple Bloom and Crop Potential

2014-05-20 Thread dmnorton
Nikki, We have had drip irrigation and/or drip tape in our 16,000 tree orchard since 1993/94. In 2012 we installed sub-surface drip in our apple tree maze. We have never been effected by drought in any years since the original installation. We have 8 wells on our 120 acres and rotate wells f

Re: [apple-crop] Bud 118

2014-06-01 Thread dmnorton
Interesting, Hal. We planted Honeycrisp on Bud 9 back in 2004 and they are only about 6' to 8' even now..produce a good crop, but never grew as we expected. In fact, we are planning on removing them in the next two years or so. Replanted more in 2006 on M 26 and they have produced beautif

Re: [apple-crop] Deer, Fireblight, Liquid Fence

2014-06-09 Thread dmnorton
Lee, we use a product called Repells All by Bonide that lasts up to 2 months and is made up of Dried Blood , Putrescent whole egg solids, Garlic oil, Acetic Acid, Potassium Sorbate, Cloves, Fish oil, Onions, Meat meal, Seaweed, Vanillin, Vitamin E, and Wintergreen oil. It comes in a 6 lb. ba

Re: [apple-crop] OBLR

2014-07-01 Thread dmnorton
Art, Noticed no one has responded to your question yet, so I will post a link top the OBLR Sampling Form from Cornell that I have adopted for our use here in northern Illinois. http://www.nysipm.cornell.edu/publications/apple_man/files/oblr3.pdf For overall treatment I follow the Midhigan St

Re: [apple-crop] Narrow Tall Spindle Layout

2014-07-02 Thread dmnorton
matthew, We have been growing tall spindle in northern Illinois in a pick-your-own orchard for around 5 or 6 years now. The system has been improving over the years and currently the newer spacing being recommended by Dr. Terence Robinson from Cornell is around 12' x 3'. I highly recommend wat

Re: [apple-crop] Narrow Tall Spindle Layout

2014-07-03 Thread dmnorton
We have had good success with M26, M9 and NIC29. Bud9 has not done as wellour M26 Honeycrisp are nearly 3' taller than our Bud9 Honeycrisp on those trees planted the same spring. The fireblight and borer (DWB and GPTB seem to like the burr knot area for egg laying) issues with M26 have bee

Re: [apple-crop] What is best pesticide 4 Japanesse Beatles?

2014-07-04 Thread dmnorton
We have used Assail for several years to control Japanese Beetle, especially in Honeycrisp. And the timing can coincide for us with a need to spray for apple maggot as well, depending on the type of temperatures we are having. We spray the top 1/3 of the tree in Honeycrisp since that is where t

Re: [apple-crop] Planting density for Asian pears

2014-08-01 Thread dmnorton
Rick, In doing some research for our new planting program, I came across an article by Terence Robinson on high density pears that might be useful to you. We will be planting new apple trees over the next 5 years at a density of 3 x 12. The article on high density pears discusses trials with

Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?

2014-08-15 Thread dmnorton
When the demand for apples in the United States is greater than the supply available in the United States, then I have no problem with imports from China or elsewhere..as long as we have a knowledge of how the fruit is grown and how pest control is administered. But I cannot see importing f

Re: [apple-crop] theft deterrence

2014-10-07 Thread dmnorton
We have been a pick your own since 1997. We have always charged by the peck bag and provide the bags for the customer. We can have thousands through our pick your own on any given peak weekend. We contract two County Deputy Sheriffs to patrol the orchards. We don't mind if folks eat a few ap

Re: [apple-crop] Mankar Ultra-Low Volume Herbicide Applicators

2014-10-30 Thread dmnorton
We have a single head Enviromist mounted to our small John Deere tractor that we have used for several years with no issues at all. The keys are how high you allow your weeds to get before application and how high you have to hold the shield above the ground. The higher the shield above ground

Re: [apple-crop] electric gloves

2014-12-08 Thread dmnorton
We run into the same thing with our hydraulic pruners. Our guys use these or other manufacturer's similiar to these. The key is that they are thin and work like a wet suit. Hope this helps! http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/product/mens-wetsuit-work-gloves-20604.aspx Dennis Norton IPM Spec

Re: [apple-crop] Announcing weekly apple IPM conference call green tipto harvest

2015-02-09 Thread dmnorton
I have participated in these IPM conference calls since their inception and the calls are a regular part of my annual IPM program. There is a wealth of information available through these calls for the Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota apple grower. You can learn what other growers are facing

Re: [apple-crop] Arctic Apples again -

2015-03-30 Thread dmnorton
I jsut read the last data from Facebook that indicates they have over 1.3 billion users! When I see the erroneous information that gets posted to the news feed on Facebook about GMO's, Monsanto and the Arctic apple, and the number of people that believe this stuff.it scares me to think what