My experience with the thousands of customers that we have had over the years 
is that once they form a perception of something, whether it be GMO's or 
organic vs conventionallly grown products, they stick to the preception that 
the media has given them. I now simply tell them that the best way to know what 
is in the fruits and vegetables they eat is to "buy local and know your 
grower"!   Talk to your grower and ask them what they use on the crops they 
grow.  That's the only way the fruit and vegetable consumer will know for 
sure......providing they are told the truth.  Here at Royal Oak Farm Orchard in 
northern Illinois, we use a biointensive IPM program and have a brochure to 
give to customers at farmer's markets and here at our u-pick operation that 
educates them to IPM and the fact that we have a goal to protect our native 
pollinators and our customers from harmful products. Those of us who have an 
audience with the buying consumer have an opportunity to educate the consumer 
in many ways and they will listen.  I have explained GMO's to many customers 
whose response was almost always, "I didn't know that!"    

Sure, it is time consuming to talk to customers at length , but that is one of 
my primary roles here at the orchard.  Well, along with many others!  We hold 
various workshops for home growers on IPM and dialogue regualrly on our 
Facebook fan page about organic vs conventionally grown products, GMO's  and 
the EWG.  We share posts from the  http://www.safefruitsandveggies.com/  web 
site and others around the internet.  All of this takes a lot of my time, but 
as Alfonso de la Pena (played by George Hamilton in the movie One Upon a Crime) 
says, "It's what I do!" (Said with French accent!!!)

Our customers are our life blood and if they don't trust us, we won't be here 
for long!

Dennis Norton
IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
15908 Hebron Rd.
Harvard, IL 60033-9357
Office (815) 648-4467
Mobile (815) 228-2174
Fax (609) 228-2174
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shoemaker, William H 
  To: Evan B. Milburn ; Apple-crop discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 7:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals


  I agree with Evan. The reputation of GMO technology is horrendous. While you 
can criticize the public as much as you want about that, it won't improve their 
view of GMOs generally. The industry took the ill-advised (and arrogant) 
approach that they shouldn't have to educate the public or be open with them 
about "Our" technology. They essentially imposed it on the consumer. I think 
this crisis in confidence among consumers about GMO food products could have 
been predicted and avoided. The Flavr Savor tomato should have taught the GE 
industry that lesson. I would suggest that you can't force feed the 
marketplace. Ironic that some of the leaders of the effort to have "free and 
open markets" are the very ones who cry foul over the idea that foods with GMO 
content be labeled. 



  Bill

  William H. Shoemaker 

  Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist

  University of Illinois

  wshoe...@illinois.edu


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  From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Evan B. Milburn 
[ebmilb...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 7:51 PM
  To: jon.cleme...@umass.edu; Apple-crop discussion list
  Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals


  Jon and grower friends,
   After reading the article "Monsanto is going organic", continue down and 
read the comments by the public. These too are our customers. Do we want 
comments like this toward our apple industry?   
    We has growers certainly know that GMOs are harmless and may well have a 
place in our industry in the future, possibly in disease or insect resistance.  
However, do we need this kind of publicity now.
    All it takes is for some famous Hollywood star to tape an interview 
blasting our great industry.
        AGAIN  Remember Alar!
                                                Evan Milburn
                                        www.milburnorchards.com                 
                    


  On Monday, May 5, 2014 7:17 PM, Jon Clements <jon.cleme...@umass.edu> wrote:
   
    I posted this a while back 
(http://www.mail-archive.com/apple-crop%40virtualorchard.net/msg02437.html), 
but probably worth re-visiting. I found it very interesting. JC 


    http://www.wired.com/2014/01/new-monsanto-vegetables/




    On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Fleming, William 
<w...@exchange.montana.edu> wrote:

      The way to beat the GMO controversy, merited or not, is to use genetic 
mapping to find plants with desirable traits then cross them into the targeted 
crop with conventional breeding.
      I've talked with several anti GMO folks who have no problem with this 
method but you still can be sure it won't please everyone.


      Bill Fleming
      Montana State University
      Western Ag Research Center
      580 Quast Lane
      Corvallis, MT 59828


      -----Original Message-----
      From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Silsby, Ken
      Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:23 AM
      To: Apple-crop discussion list
      Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

      In January, I happened to attend a "standing room only" presentation on 
communicating about GMO crops at the Mid-Atlantic Convention in Hershey, PA.  
The speaker was from the Center of Science in the Public Interest.  Their web 
site posts a 24 page bulletin on the subject at the link below.  The bulletin 
provides a good review for those who are in position to discuss the issue with 
the public.

      Link to "Straight Talk on Genetically Engineered Foods":
      http://cspinet.org/new/pdf/biotech-faq.pdf

      Thanks.

      Ken Silsby   Eastern Technical Manager, Apples
      Mobile: 716.471.5383 | Fax: 716.204.8065 ksil...@agrofresh.com 

      http://www.agrofresh.com/ 

       
       

       




      -----Original Message-----
      From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Shoemaker, William H
      Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:04 AM
      To: Apple-crop discussion list
      Subject: Re: [apple-crop] apples and chemicals

      I don't know the answer to this question. I'm curious about it too. I 
also wonder how much of that kind of work is in development. I doubt anyone 
knows as so much of it is done in the private sector.

      But I remember conducting trials of pumpkins in the '90s on some 
virus-resistant GMO pumpkins that derived their genetic material from a 
different species within the cucurbit genus. I believe it was a wild species 
that was incompatible for an intergeneric cross. We really need such resistance 
but it was withdrawn because of perceived market risk.

      Bill
      William H. Shoemaker
      Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist University of Illinois 
wshoe...@illinois.edu


      My question is this: does anyone know how many of the GMO crops/organisms 
that are currently approved for food crops actually involve genetic transfers 
among widely-separated species as compared to the number of GMOs that involve 
only modifications of genes within plants or the addition of virus coat 
proteins from viruses that are already commonly found in the plant species of 
interest?
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    UMass Cold Spring Orchard
    393 Sabin St.
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