Re: [arch-general] Aur git - missing .SRCINFO hook declined to update refs/heads/master - help?

2018-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
AUR does *not* cater to people who try building packages without base-devel installed. Which means that as makedepends they're totally unnecessary and therefore clutter which should be removed. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Aur git - missing .SRCINFO hook declined to update refs/heads/master - help?

2018-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 06/04/2018 01:29 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 06/04/2018 06:04 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> List of packages so I can perform AUR administration and remove those >> *.src.tar.gz using sekrit TU powers? :p >> > > Thank you Eli, my existi

Re: [arch-general] Aur git - missing .SRCINFO hook declined to update refs/heads/master - help?

2018-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 06/04/2018 07:29 AM, mar77i via arch-general wrote: > On June 4, 2018 1:04 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general > wrote: >> That's saying that in commit 93a539f81d7d0f001dd5522781ebeabf7cf73f9d >> you had committed a .SRCINFO file which listed a LICENSE file, but >

Re: [arch-general] Aur git - missing .SRCINFO hook declined to update refs/heads/master - help?

2018-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
d the same archwiki Aur page to clone > the empty repository and then attempt to create the .SRCINFO, sign, commit and > push. Strange List of packages so I can perform AUR administration and remove those *.src.tar.gz using sekrit TU powers? :p -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Archlinux ISO 2018.06.01 lost rankmirrors

2018-06-01 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
robably use reflector instead, since it can download new mirrors, rank them based on many criteria, etc. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] KDE plasma, baloo and UI/video playback freezes

2018-05-29 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
; and only sends to the list. I actually have to go into "More" ==> "Reply all" if I want to CC people automatically. Even the "Reply" option finds the mailinglist address as the *From* address to reply to. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Distribution license of package information on the website?

2018-05-29 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
s not original enough, and explicitly clarify this in https://github.com/eli-schwartz/pkgbuilds#copyright -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Distribution license of package information on the website?

2018-05-29 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
"How can I programmatically do this" but a legalistic "under what copyright permissions am I permitted to do this". -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Stronger Hashes for PKGBUILDs

2018-05-14 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
work perfectly fine). So I'm uninterested in the bikeshed on general principle, and only vaguely interested inasmuch as having more tools and more diversity in the future would probably be interesting and/or useful. But I can find lots of arguments for and against all the SHA3 candidates, some

Re: [arch-general] Stronger Hashes for PKGBUILDs

2018-05-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
the > coreutils package. Currently, I only saw gentoo using it but I didn't do > proper research on this... Maybe you could ask the coreutils developers whatever happened to implementing Keccak checksumming tools. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Less Modified Files from Updates.

2018-05-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
since if you don't create your own program defaults in mimeapps.list then it will use the first one in mimeinfo.cache which changes every time you recreate the cache. (Lesson learned: set your own defaults even if it currently seems to work.) -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Stronger Hashes for PKGBUILDs

2018-05-10 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ght. Also a check which tells you the file has a bad signature *because the download is malformed* is sort of a weird user experience, and it might not be obvious you should try redownloading. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Stronger Hashes for PKGBUILDs

2018-05-08 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
, or simply follow the PGP web of trust. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Stronger Hashes for PKGBUILDs

2018-05-08 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
t.archlinux.org/pacman.git/log/?id=37a89e2fac704babbe3badf0d9df0d41ec622f6f=1 -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Mirrorlist Generator Not Working?

2018-04-23 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
e moment and not just the ones where > the above parameters apply. Known issue. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/58304 -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] procps-ng 3.3.13 and its new topdefaultrc

2018-04-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ly following GNOME 3.x > :). I don't disagree on either count, but I'm pretty sure they *claimed* that reason. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] procps-ng 3.3.13 and its new topdefaultrc

2018-04-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
top interfaces? I didn't suggest that, I suggested the new top interface could almost certainly be reimplemented if you know the right top options... probably by like reading documentation. I consider top to be an exercise in frustration, so won't try myself, but analyzing top.h as I referenced wo

Re: [arch-general] procps-ng 3.3.13 and its new topdefaultrc

2018-04-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
pstream intended... (Kudos to Jonathon for being principled enough in both desiring distro-customized defaults for Manjaro users and implementing them the right way. I wonder if anyone will actually learn how to use top though...) -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc D

Re: [arch-general] gtk-sharp-2 conflicts with gtk#

2018-03-22 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/21/2018 11:42 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 03/21/2018 11:31 PM, Morgan Adamiec via arch-general wrote: >> I was doing some packing parsing and my parser failed to parse >> gtk-sharp-2 from extra. Turns out it's because gtk-sharp-2 conflicts >> with gtk# and my pa

Re: [arch-general] gtk-sharp-2 conflicts with gtk#

2018-03-21 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
:p I would say, your tool should correctly detect something wonky with that package. Ideally I think I would like to implement https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/57833 which would mean gtk-sharp-2 would fail to compile with the next pkgver bump until that conflicts was removed. ;) -- Eli Schwartz B

Re: [arch-general] Re-install of Arch on a larger drive

2018-03-19 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
> >>> Why is it inappropriate? It should work fine, and work with no other >>> changes. Even the UUIDs/Labels would be the same that way. >> >> If so, don't beat around the bush, simply provide the command that does >> it all :). > > If you need more than w

Re: [arch-general] gcc broken - Arch specific, applying optimization incorrectly - may explain unexplained problems

2018-03-14 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/14/2018 08:40 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 03/14/2018 06:52 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > > > This was *probably* an accident (flyspray links are sort of weird for > reloading the page and replacing the current url with this at all); > nevertheles

Re: [arch-general] gcc broken - Arch specific, applying optimization incorrectly - may explain unexplained problems

2018-03-14 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
dent (flyspray links are sort of weird for reloading the page and replacing the current url with this at all); nevertheless, please don't do this again... -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] gcc broken - Arch specific, applying optimization incorrectly - may explain unexplained problems

2018-03-14 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/14/2018 04:26 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > As I suggested, create a bugtracker issue for gcc on our bugtracker > otherwise you'll have to wait on a new gcc minor release. Someone already did. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/57823 -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Truste

Re: [arch-general] Xorg crashes

2018-03-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
>>> below. >> >> Libinput is broken. Downgrading to 1.10.1-1 works. >> > > Thank You, Thomas!  :) > > There's a feed for those problems ("Arch Linux Recent news updates") - > how can this be added there? By becoming an Arch dev and decidin

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 03/13/2018 09:47 AM, Leonid Isaev via arch-general wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:41:46AM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> On 03/13/2018 12:30 AM, John Ramsden via arch-general wrote: >>> Actually, you can easily create an arch ISO with ZFS embedded into &

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
so.html Yes, and it also requires an Arch system (or at least one with pacman available) to run mkarchiso, pacstrap, copy the initcpio configs from mkinitcpio, etc. Which is a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem, and I don't really consider this a viable generic solution... -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
a ramdisk overlay filesystem. Now, in theory the archzfs repo provides some archiso packages for exactly this use case. Except no they don't, because their archiso packages have not been updated since October... This is less than entirely impressive. They have rebuilt everything else, why not this?

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
elp in advancing its > stability either. Well, I think the only outstanding issue really with btrfs is raid5/6 support. Maybe this scares people away? -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Update to 4.15.8 on dual quad-core box locked on ( 3/16) Install DKMS modules, need help resurecting

2018-03-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
e such. Based on how well archzfs keeps their binary repos up to date, I'm not 100% convinced on the stability. Moreso consider that it's difficult to bootstrap a system without zfs available, and if their binary repo does not match the current archiso... -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted

Re: [arch-general] Why no git --depth=1 option for makepkg?

2018-03-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
f makepkg had a builtin feature to apply patches (which I think would be considered a "this is doing too much" feature) in addition to some way to reverse the pkgver() function to acquire the tag used in pkgver= and then specify git clone --shallow-since=${tag}~1 but at this point it becomes understa

Re: [arch-general] Why no git --depth=1 option for makepkg?

2018-03-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
le, and svn revision numbers do not necessarily cleanly translate to git revisions numbers let alone commit hashes. Giving users a mysterious svn revision number they don't know how to trace, is confusing UI. So I wouldn't recommend this even for projects without tags at all. -- Eli Schwartz Bug

Re: [arch-general] Why no git --depth=1 option for makepkg?

2018-03-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ent in the last ten commits, which unsurprisingly is exactly the opposite of most projects (which don't have tags at all and therefore require all history without exception in order to implement the pkgver() function) or even most projects with tags (which don't release stable releases on bas

Re: [arch-general] Why no git --depth=1 option for makepkg?

2018-03-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ch branch you want to cherry-pick from. Also shallow-exclude would exclude the tag itself, you cannot specify "v${pkgver}~1" to shallow-exclude. As you say, not trivial. ;) I've thought about it too... -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] OpenRA / Mono exceptions

2018-03-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
where you are subtly encouraging people who don't understand the issue to emulate you without knowing why. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Why no git --depth=1 option for makepkg?

2018-03-03 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
criteria as makepkg will detect that clone and then simply fetch new changes which respects a previous shallow clone designation. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] godep has been deprecated in favor of dep

2018-02-25 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
the golang ecosystem. We seem to have a fair number of AUR packages that still require it, so this may be complicated. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] godep has been deprecated in favor of dep

2018-02-24 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
t your argument. Just because software is old, or not recommended by its own devs, does not mean it isn't useful. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Please update VLC to v3.0.0

2018-02-23 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
*and* provides libraries against which *other* packages need to be rebuilt? Yeah, this takes time. -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Why does Arch still use the GTK2 version of xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin?

2018-02-15 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
and gain community backing before you ask. :) -- Eli Schwartz Bug Wrangler and Trusted User signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Corrupt Package (confirmed 2 servers) dovecot, jansson, python2-pillow

2018-02-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 02/11/2018 06:46 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 02/11/2018 04:48 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: >> There >> have been numerous forum posts, mailing list threads, IRC discussions, >> Reddit discussions, Twitter discussions, and for all I know Linux User >> G

Re: [arch-general] Corrupt Package (confirmed 2 servers) dovecot, jansson, python2-pillow

2018-02-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
or, or check the forums, or read through arch-general emails in your Inbox/archives? Because if you had, you would have seen at least one such discussion, and we would not be having this discussion. ... And now escondida is a TU, so we (the Arch Linux community) will go through the "

Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

2018-01-12 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
is actually a thirdparty GUI for NetworkManager, developed by some of the same people as a separate project. Said GUI is not even installed with networkmanager, it is a completely separate package that *depends* on networkmanager. Please learn more about your system/tools before passing judgmen

Re: [arch-general] Is linux extramodules dir named most appropriately?

2018-01-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 01/11/2018 11:27 AM, Genes Lists via arch-general wrote: > On 1/11/18 9:45 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > ... >> >> Because the extramodules directory is designated for thirdparty modules >> that are believed to be compatible with any kernel patch release of

Re: [arch-general] Is linux extramodules dir named most appropriately?

2018-01-11 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
is designated for thirdparty modules that are believed to be compatible with any kernel patch release of the same major.minor version. If the module needs to be recompiled with patch releases, it should be installed to the "main" modules directory. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] php php71 in conflict

2018-01-10 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
to replace php with php71 when we have php webapps that > require php-ldap (probably the case of phpldapadmin too?) That definitely seems like an inconsistency, please open a feature request against php71 to provide php71-ldap=$pkgver and php-ldap=$pkgver. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc De

Re: [arch-general] php php71 in conflict

2018-01-10 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
t the latest -1 stable release. :) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] mythtv

2018-01-09 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
for read-only access, or simply look at the public archives) as part of our end-of-year repository cleanup. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] xorg-xdm changes $PATH and breaks gdbus-codegen

2018-01-04 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
l-thought-out reasons that will not be reverted. See https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47884 This is manifestly a bug in xdm, which is setting a stupid $PATH. Why on earth would we use workarounds in /etc/profile rather than fixing something which is obviously broken? -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Install Archlinux on HP Elitebook

2017-12-24 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
mation about the ability to manually create a grub.cfg, in the "Tips and tricks" sub-page as a tiny blurb. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Install Archlinux on HP Elitebook

2017-12-22 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ork anyway because of recycling filesystem code that supports both on a generic level.) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] How to build package in "clean chroot" using the "-U" parameter?

2017-12-22 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
artdir; makepkg "$@"' -bash "$@" Once you enter the chroot, nothing you do should matter, unless the chroot itself is completely damaged. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] How to build package in "clean chroot" using the "-U" parameter?

2017-12-22 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ide the chroot, which should automatically be run as the "builduser" user inside a systemd-nspawn container (we don't actually use chroot). Both times, makechrootpkg will drop privileges using sudo. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] snapd - orphaned, outdated, how to help

2017-12-19 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
If you do become interested in this, there is a Wiki page giving a general overview of the process including tips on making a favorable impression: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users#How_do_I_become_a_TU.3F -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] snapd - orphaned, outdated, how to help

2017-12-19 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
pak does see steady activity from heftig). We're also currently doing general housekeeping right now, see https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2017-December/029052.html -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Doing a Recompile of All Packages?

2017-12-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ist is quite easy to obtain with `pacman -Qqn`. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Proposal: add "--disable-modern-top" to procps-ng configure flags

2017-12-09 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
if raising changes > "upstream" can benefit the whole ecosystem it's worth doing. > > I'd probably dispute the "for beginners" bit though... ;) Plus, we > really don't need to validate our existence, thank you. Awesome! So happy that a mutually satisfactory outcome was obtained! Now why does this mailing list thread exist... -- Eli Schwartz

Re: [arch-general] Proposal: add "--disable-modern-top" to procps-ng configure flags

2017-12-09 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
it that the Arch devs > aren't interested in making the change, as apparently there is zero > merit in the proposal, despite `top` currently not honouring terminal > colour settings and so being inaccessible. Even if there were any merit, > any change now would undermine the hard-line position you've taken. htop is *very* accessible, consider trying it. :) -- Eli Schwartz

Re: [arch-general] GDM/Lightdm and/or Gnome will not start

2017-11-26 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
DRM schemes and incidentally break E-Ink device compatibility in the process (which is quite sad even for their perspective). ADE 1.7 has always worked quite well in wine, and is available via winetricks. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Switching the bugtracker to Bugzilla

2017-11-19 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 11/19/2017 11:04 AM, Florian Pritz via arch-general wrote: > On 19.11.2017 16:24, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> We cannot migrate to git because no one has put in the work necessary to >> properly rewrite dbscripts. > > Just to clarify: Gabriel Souza Franco (gbsf) has pu

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Switching the bugtracker to Bugzilla

2017-11-19 Thread Eli Schwartz
a long time due to the aforementioned issue of developers not having enough time to even look at bugs, let alone fix them, and want some way to sweep their trash under the rug so they don't have to see the warts. Just in case you were wondering how I feel about this. :) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Switching the bugtracker to Bugzilla

2017-11-14 Thread Eli Schwartz
yway, the subject header makes it clear what list it came from. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] asp checkout issue

2017-10-07 Thread Eli Schwartz
serted is on the website. (Having had it confirmed from three not-really-independent sources, I cannot help but feel pacman -Si would be somewhat more relevant here anyway.) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] tmux/systemd: tmux user service exits on detach/logout

2017-09-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 09/25/2017 11:36 AM, Ismael Bouya wrote: > (Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:28:07PM +0000) Eli Schwartz : >> Bugreport opened on our tracker, so this fix may get backported. ;) >> >> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/55746 > > I didn’t know this was "possible",

Re: [arch-general] tmux/systemd: tmux user service exits on detach/logout

2017-09-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
time, the > problem is much less frequent (In my case, I have a mosh session open > all the time from my phone to the server, which kind of helps). Still > annoying, but less frequent. Bugreport opened on our tracker, so this fix may get backported. ;) https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/

Re: [arch-general] systemd - move to base group and expect it to be installed?

2017-09-19 Thread Eli Schwartz
ut? And what practical benefit do you think this has? -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Ardour 5.11

2017-09-11 Thread Eli Schwartz
e latest version, and I've been testing it and it works fine for me"? It is far less confusing when people actually understand at a glance what you're actually saying. I hereby request of you to be less confusing. ;) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Detect broken DHCP setup

2017-09-08 Thread Eli Schwartz
Manager/conf.d/20-connectivity.conf and NetworkManager.conf(5) for details. It is a pretty robust check, unless archlinux.org is offline or banned by a proxy/filter. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] enforcing the Code of Conduct

2017-09-04 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 09/04/2017 10:11 AM, D C via arch-general wrote: > You don't have to be such a dick about it, Florian. A formal request from the List Manager, asking someone to follow the Code of Conduct[1] and not send offtopic emails here, is not "be[ing] such a dick about it, Florian". --

Re: [arch-general] Vim update - Stray chars on file-new

2017-08-23 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/23/2017 09:44 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > All, > > After vim update to 8.0.0987-1, creating a new file with 'vim somefile.txt' > results in the following stray characters at the top of the file: > > $q q > ~ > > Can someone confirm? > I can confirm t

Re: [arch-general] Contributions to the wiki - Are user contributions a thing of the past?

2017-08-23 Thread Eli Schwartz
re. Likewise, the part of your contributions that is useful rather than redundant is still there, if less wordy. tl;dr Hey, a collaborative Wiki!!! -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] unresolveable dependencies

2017-08-18 Thread Eli Schwartz
ng (and community-testing). The testing repos are all-or-none. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] How can I set CAPS LOCK as Escape throughout reboot

2017-08-17 Thread Eli Schwartz
i.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_Xorg#Setting_keyboard_layout This is possible through xorg.conf.d as well. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] pacman doesn't show download progress

2017-08-17 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/17/2017 02:46 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: > ... and it's probably worth mentioning that sometime in the last 10 > minutes they seem to have fixed this. Or not. It's erratically switching between working and not-working. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] pacman doesn't show download progress

2017-08-17 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/17/2017 02:43 PM, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Well, look at this: > > ``` > [eschwartz@arch ~]$ pacman -Sp linux > http://archlinux.mirrors.ovh.net/archlinux/testing/os/i686/linux-4.12.7-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz > [eschwartz@arch ~]$ wget -P /tmp/ > http://archlinux.mirrors.ovh.net

Re: [arch-general] pacman doesn't show download progress

2017-08-17 Thread Eli Schwartz
rs, something you can also see with curl -I http://... Notice how the Content-Length: header is missing. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] pacman doesn't show download progress

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
. Have you set an external downloader? -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
displays HTML mail fine, and viewing the message source tells me that message was formatted as (mangled) plaintext. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
I have no patience for reading people's broken quoting. Please try again, this time using a decent email client. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-15 Thread Eli Schwartz
he failsafe does the job. It's good > defensive practice by the packaging team, I think. What. No, the packaging team explicitly does not care about you, and official policy is to yell at you for having once upon a time run pacman -Sy without -u That is pretty deliberate on your part. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Depends on foo-bar=10.0-3

2017-08-14 Thread Eli Schwartz
tice that > packages mention dependency versions for at least the last 4 years [2]. > It's not the only dummy package I'm using for at least that long. Well, it is also done for gcc and gcc-libs. It's generally only used for things like split packages where there is an extremely strict co

Re: [arch-general] makepkg - any way to recompile only newly patched files in large packages?

2017-08-09 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 08/07/2017 10:12 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > On 08/07/2017 09:36 AM, Eli Schwartz wrote: >> You could also use `makepkg --noextract` which assumes you applied the >> fix by hand rather than in the PGBUILD, which is probably safer as it >> skips prepare(), and in theory

Re: [arch-general] makepkg - any way to recompile only newly patched files in large packages?

2017-08-09 Thread Eli Schwartz
ets MAKEFLAGS back to -j1 (this is the only time it is okay to specify the number of make jobs to run in parallel, if you are resetting back to the defaults because a package doesn't compile with custom MAKEFLAGS in makepkg.conf). -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] makepkg - any way to recompile only newly patched files in large packages?

2017-08-07 Thread Eli Schwartz
repackage does not do what you want, since it doesn't rebuild anything. Granted, Makefiles usually have the install target depend on the default target, so it would probably end up being built too... in fakeroot... -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Why doesn't svntogit/{community, packages} describe cloning (or download) of individual packages?

2017-08-06 Thread Eli Schwartz
Because "community" and "packages" are whole repositories, and indivual packages are implemented as branches. And the download instructions are autogenerated by cgit, the same way Github would autogenerate the same instructions. It seems this is a good opportunity for

Re: [arch-general] broken package stops pacstrap

2017-07-27 Thread Eli Schwartz
then you will have to update the archlinux-keyring package on its own in order to fix keys that expired and were renewed or replaced in the two years since your ISO. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Procedure for getting informed about ban duration and reason

2017-07-26 Thread Eli Schwartz
;. No need to discuss the in-depth details of your case, or complain about how your self-indicated reasonable response is being ignored out of hand. Contrary to popular belief, prefacing a rant with "I am not trying to rant", does not make it suddenly cease to be a rant. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] (Off-topic) Command-line torrent download tool

2017-07-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
tream pirated movies via torrents, so I dunno. (I honestly thought that that was deleted, but I just checked and it's still listed in the AUR!) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] (Off-topic) Command-line torrent download tool

2017-07-25 Thread Eli Schwartz
use the mailing list run by the same organization... because why? This seems like questionable logic. That being said, we have bittorrent clients available in the offical repos and the AUR, and e.g. qbittorrent (in [community]) comes with a builtin search indexer that searches thepiratebay among sever

Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

2017-07-24 Thread Eli Schwartz
figurator, NetworkManager. As always, if you really like wpa_supplicant, or prefer systemd-networkd because you're installing to a wired system, you are free to do that. No one advocated adding Networkmanager to the "base" group (although I would like netctl to be *removed* from it).

Re: [arch-general] Why there is no NetworkManager in ArchISO

2017-07-24 Thread Eli Schwartz
go. I am pretty sure most of the people who accidentally think netctl is somehow an okay networking tool wouldn't think so if they weren't led to believe it by its presence on the archiso; this in turn would lower the support burden on #archlinux@freenode, and quite possibly on the forums as well

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Changing compilation flags

2017-07-08 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
currently modify those flags on a PKGBUILD-by-PKGBUILD basis, or alternatively we can try to get clang to deal with basic gcc compatibility in a graceful manner. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] systemd on bios computer

2017-07-05 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
r message is quite right in saying that it cannot find an EFI System Partition for UEFI booting... on a machine that boots via BIOS rather than UEFI. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] git undetectable tag replacement? (Was: Sébastien Luttringer and Tobias Powalowski)

2017-07-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 07/02/2017 07:34 PM, Ismael Bouya wrote: > (Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 07:22:23PM -0400) Eli Schwartz via arch-general : >> Okay, this I am genuinely curious about. >> >> In what circumstances can I have: >> - the systemd repository cloned over the git:// protocol >&g

Re: [arch-general] Sébastien Luttringer and Tobias Powalowski

2017-07-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
ns during the boot process, nor by $systemd_binary --version ... Because I don't think git works that way, but I am willing to be proven wrong. Also I bet the git developers would be fascinated to hear the details, you might even get some sort of bounty for successfully hacking git like that. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Sébastien Luttringer and Tobias Powalowski

2017-07-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
because we are responsible for them. Because he has been banned from the forums, from IRC, from the bugtracker, and from the mailing list due to extreme rudeness that makes him intolerable to talk to, and also because he is wrong or a liar, more often than he is right. And because you just fe

Re: [arch-general] Sébastien Luttringer and Tobias Powalowski

2017-07-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
e I wouldn't have replied at all. So yeah, the fact that this is fnodeuser again is the only observation I have to make this time. :) -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Sébastien Luttringer and Tobias Powalowski

2017-07-02 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
time. you do not help each > other. So basically, you are confirming you are fnodeuser? I guess you thought this was a good way to get around being blacklisted from the mailing list due to continuous rudeness and spammy behaviour. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] Changing compilation flags

2017-07-01 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
-October/028405.html > > \-- Sent using MsgSafe.io's Free Plan Private, encrypted, online communication > For everyone. https://www.msgsafe.io It is extremely hard to keep track of what you wrote here, and what you are quoting from elsewhere (and who and where those quotes come from). Can you please use an email client that actually works? Thanks. -- Eli Schwartz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] About rebuild of pandoc

2017-06-26 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
speaking, statically-compiled haskell programs were an ugly bug. It's just a pity haskell is such a terribly bloated ecosystem. :p That being said, there are pandoc-lite and shellcheck-static packages in the AUR which use upstream's prebuilt binaries and don't require the whole haskell ecosyst

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