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Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2
On Nov 2, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Mike Burns mailto:m...@iptrading.com> > wrote:
ARIN got wind of fraud and the Executive Board unilaterally ceased Waiting List
processing without a change in rules.
Hi,
ARIN uses the ARIN Policy Development P
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> On Nov 2, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
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> ARIN got wind of fraud and the Executive Board unilaterally ceased Waiting
> List processing without a change in rules.
Hi,
ARIN uses the ARIN Policy Development Process (The “PDP”) to produce Number
Policy that ARIN ultimately follows.
g list addresses but there was a
> “guaranty” that ARIN would process things according to the rules in place
> and let the chips fall where they may in terms of availability This is a
> change of the rules in midstream, the argument that there was never a
> guaranty of receipt is not the
the big guy.
Regards,
Mike
From: Jacob Slater
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2020 4:24 PM
To: Mike Burns
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Mike,
There is no evidence of waiting list fraud that has reached this list except
he arguments about the size limits of those coming onto the list today
> are a separate issue from this policy.
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> Regards,
> Mike
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On 11/2/20 6:08 AM, Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML wrote:
That was time wasted that could've been spent making other arrangements,
hence they were penalized.
I'm not sure how to say this in the most diplomatic way possible, but
why not explore other options just in case? Is an org that fails to
.
The arguments about the size limits of those coming onto the list today are a
separate issue from this policy.
Regards,
Mike
From: Jacob Slater
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2020 3:20 PM
To: Mike Burns
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Oppose Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2
All
the motivations of the posters shouldn't be subject to the implications
> present on the list, like the accusation of incentives for posts. Bad form.
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> Regards,
> Mike
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> From: ARIN-PPML On Behalf Of John Santos
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: Monday, November 02, 2020 12:38 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Oppose Draft Policy ARIN-2020-2
I thought we went through all this when the policy change was adopted. The
issues at the time, as best I understood them, were requests that exceeded
the new limit and requests from
Makes sense to me combined with the other posts, my reading and Owen’s
documented thoughts.
I’m not in favor.
Thank you to all the posters. Including the new ones. Welcome.
Warm regards,
-M<
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 12:50 Joe Provo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 08:50:16AM -0500, Martin
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 08:50:16AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 8:42 AM Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML <
> arin-ppml@arin.net> wrote:
[snip]
> The question for me is what, clearly, is the inequity that grandfathering
> addresses? Going through the process? Waiting on the
I thought we went through all this when the policy change was adopted. The
issues at the time, as best I understood them, were requests that exceeded the
new limit and requests from organizations that already have large allocations or
assignments. The options discussed, for both issues, was
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 8:42 AM Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML <
arin-ppml@arin.net> wrote:
> I find it hard to understand how you can believe that this is "special
> benefits".
>
>
Grandfathering is a common technique that addresses inequities changes
create. Governments do it and business does it.
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From: ARIN-PPML On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 20:27
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Oppose Draft Policy ARIN-2020-
I’m with you on that !!! Have a petition going somewhere ?
I oppose adoption of ARIN-2020-2 "Reinstatement of Organizations Removed from
Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16".
--
J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a
lot about
All -
After reading the various viewpoints on this list, I have changed my
opinion on this proposition and now oppose its passing.
I oppose adoption of ARIN-2020-2 "Reinstatement of Organizations Removed
from Waitlist by Implementation of ARIN-2019-16".
Regards,
Michael
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at
I *oppose* adoption of ARIN-2020-2 because it's purpose is to grant
special benefits to a specific set of orgs, granting them an exception
over any other org that has or will apply for resources under current
policy. I do not believe this policy proposal is in the best interest of
the
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