+1
ARIN:
Do we need a policy proposal for this?
Ted
On 4/17/2015 3:52 PM, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Martin Hanniganhanni...@gmail.com wrote:
If I could simply consolidate everything into the POC I want and not POCs
made up by others, I'd be a happy camper.
I certainly HOPE it doesn't require a policy proposal. It shouldn't. Nate,
what's the quickest process to get this feature added?
-Bill
On Apr 18, 2015, at 16:47, Ted Mittelstaedt t...@ipinc.net wrote:
+1
ARIN:
Do we need a policy proposal for this?
Ted
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote:
If I could simply consolidate everything into the POC I want and not POCs
made up by others, I'd be a happy camper.
+1 to making Marty happy.
More to the point, I would agree that while there are
legitimate reasons
Another thought I had on POC creation emails…
What if in addition to the NACK button, there was a “Consolidate with” (need
better name) button where I could express that this is a duplicate POC creation
and that I would like it quashed in favor of my existing POC record. The button
would
If I could simply consolidate everything into the POC I want and not POCs
made up by others, I'd be a happy camper.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
Another thought I had on POC creation emails...
What if in addition to the NACK button, there was a
On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:08 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
In addition to the 'annual NACK'I would suggest that there always be an
*initial POC verification* that needs to be confirmed by clicking a
at all?
Thanks,
David
David R Huberman
Principal, Global IP Addressing
Microsoft Corporation
-Original Message-
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:09 AM
To: David Huberman
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy idea: POC Validation
: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 10:09 AM
To: David Huberman
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy idea: POC Validation
Seems to me that the problem in this case is not ARIN, it is the way your
particular service provider works.
Choices include:
1. Work with your service
I like this solution a lot! It will, of course, result in the
offending ISPs POCs being spammed to death by their own automated
systems which auto-fill the SWIPs with information they seem to pull
out of thin air.
But sacrifices have to be made!
Ted
On 4/14/2015 11:08 AM, William Herrin
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:08 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
In addition to the 'annual NACK'I would suggest that there always be an
*initial POC verification* that needs to be confirmed by clicking a
link or going
through the same process within a couple weeks of the POC
, Global IP Addressing
Microsoft Corporation
-Original Message-
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:30 PM
To: David Huberman
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy idea: POC Validation
David,
I don’t see the angry phone call
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote:
Did ARIN/you consider a consultation instead and simply adding a NACK button
to the confirmation and reassigning the block back to the ISP in question or
re designate to the online account owner?
Hi Marty,
That's a
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:11 PM, David Huberman
david.huber...@microsoft.com wrote:
many angry emails and calls from POCs who are only associated with indirect
resource registration records.
During ARIN's annual Whois POC validation, an email will be sent to every POC
in the Whois database.
Hello,
Richard Jimmerson's Policy Experience Report indicated that 50% of the phone
calls that RSD receives are about POC validation, and that they receive many
angry emails and calls from POCs who are only associated with indirect resource
registration records. In response, I offer the
DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:30 PM
To: David Huberman
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy idea: POC Validation
David,
I don’t see the angry phone call as the problem. I see it as a symptom.
The problem is the incorrect registrations
ARIN isn’t creating those separate POCs… They are created by CenturyLink or
whoever in the ARIN database.
I would suggest asking CenturyLink or your other providers to use a consistent
contact or find another way to deal with those registrations.
You can actually associate all of those
.
David
David R Huberman
Principal, Global IP Addressing
Microsoft Corporation
-Original Message-
From: arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-boun...@arin.net] On
Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:12 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy
-boun...@arin.net] On
Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:12 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy idea: POC Validation
As one of the initiators of this policy I must state that none of us who
worked
on this ever assumed the POC Validation
Did ARIN/you consider a consultation instead and simply adding a NACK
button to the confirmation and reassigning the block back to the ISP in
question or re designate to the online account owner? Maybe some of that
needs policy. Maybe not.
You mentioned at the mic that the POC assignments are
On 4/13/2015 5:30 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
If I go to the DMV and register my cat as a driver then get pulled over,
do I have grounds to scream at the DMV for being dumb enough to give a
drivers license to a cat? When it was my foolishness that did it?
The DMV can't fix this anymore
Hello Marty,
Did ARIN/you consider a consultation instead and simply adding a NACK button
to the confirmation and reassigning the block back to the ISP in question or
re-designate to the online account owner? Maybe some of that needs policy.
Maybe not.
[I didn't consider a
On 4/13/15 1:29 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
David,
I don’t see the angry phone call as the problem. I see it as a symptom.
The problem is the incorrect registrations. I want us to find out about those
incorrect registrations and resolve them. I certainly don’t want to simply
remove the symptom
On 15-04-13 06:07 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
- Just as there is a link to confirm the POC record is good, there
should be another
prominent link near the top to say This POC record is bad, and
stop contacting me
- If the POC says their record is bad, And they don't go back and cancel that
On 15-04-13 02:30 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I know it loads extra work on you guys but it seems to me that providing
a directory of who has IP in use, even if they are a customer of
some larger ISP who is responsible for the IP, is a core function of
a Registrar and I think we need to really
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:23 PM, David Huberman
david.huber...@microsoft.com wrote:
Hi Ted, Thanks for the reply.
complaining en masse to ARIN after receiving POC Validation communications.
My reasoning for removing
POC validation for these types of POCs is that ISPs have the option to not
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