The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
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On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 8:29 PM John Curran wrote:
> Agreed that the language is oriented to those with existing ARIN context
> (although this may
> be somewhat inevitable given that we’re clarifying the deprecation of
> ARIN-specific jargon…)
>
> Do you have any suggestions for improving the
Bill -
Agreed that the language is oriented to those with existing ARIN context
(although this may
be somewhat inevitable given that we’re clarifying the deprecation of
ARIN-specific jargon…)
Do you have any suggestions for improving the policy text?
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President
On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 1:11 PM ARIN wrote:
> TO:
>
> “Allocation - IP addresses issued directly by ARIN to an organization for the
> purpose of subsequent distribution by the recipient organization to other
> parties or the exclusive use of the recipient organization.
>
> Assignment - IP
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
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To: Douglas Camin , arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
Overall, I support this change as I think it resolves a common source of
confusion and helps to clean up legacy terminology and phrasing.
I did have a couple of comments
the draft remains unchanged from the original revisions previously
> presented.
>
> Hope that helps –
>
>
> Doug
>
>
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> Douglas J. Camin
> ARIN Advisory Council
> d...@dougcamin.com
>
>
>
>
> From:ARIN-PPML on behalf of ARIN
> Date: Thursday
ns previously
> presented.
>
> Hope that helps –
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> --
> Douglas J. Camin
> ARIN Advisory Council
> d...@dougcamin.com
>
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>
>
> From:ARIN-PPML on behalf of ARIN
> Date: Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 1:53 PM
> On Feb 20, 2024, at 13:22, William Herrin wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:53 AM ARIN wrote:
>> FROM:
>>
>> “Allocation - IP addresses delegated to an organization directly by ARIN for
>> the purpose of subsequent distribution by the recipient organization to
>> other parties.
>>
>>
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:53 AM ARIN wrote:
> FROM:
>
> “Allocation - IP addresses delegated to an organization directly by ARIN for
> the purpose of subsequent distribution by the recipient organization to other
> parties.
>
> Assignment - IP addresses delegated to an organization directly by
@arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You
Council
d...@dougcamin.com
From: ARIN-PPML on behalf of ARIN
Date: Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 1:53 PM
To: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
the
On Oct 3, 2023, at 1:05 AM, John Santos wrote:
On 10/2/2023 5:42 PM, John Curran wrote:
Alas, your proposed analogy fails when there is no vehicle, but only the
registry entry itself – i.e. Internet number resources are unique identifiers
within the Internet Numbers Registry System, and this
On 10/2/2023 5:42 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Delong.com wrote:
Agree to disagree…
“Direct Registration” makes it clear (IMHO) that all that ARIN provides is a
registration. The idea that an address block exists, let alone exists separate
from the registration of
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 4:57 PM John Curran wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 2023, at 7:30 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> > ... I'm not, for example, aware of any SWIP obligations I've
> > picked up due to ARIN restructuring its process. Nor am I aware of
> > holders of what were formerly allocations being
> On Oct 2, 2023, at 7:30 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> ... I'm not, for example, aware of any SWIP obligations I've
> picked up due to ARIN restructuring its process. Nor am I aware of
> holders of what were formerly allocations being released from their
> SWIP obligations.
>
The policy
On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:45 PM John Curran wrote:
> “Direct Allocation” is both well understood and encompasses how these address
> blocks are handled at the present time (and more accurate in many cases as a
> result of the evolution of the industry towards cloud and hosted service
>
> On Oct 2, 2023, at 14:42, John Curran wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Delong.com wrote:
>>
>> Agree to disagree…
>>
>> “Direct Registration” makes it clear (IMHO) that all that ARIN provides is a
>> registration. The idea that an address block exists, let alone exists
>>
> On Oct 2, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Delong.com wrote:
>
> Agree to disagree…
>
> “Direct Registration” makes it clear (IMHO) that all that ARIN provides is a
> registration. The idea that an address block exists, let alone exists
> separate from the registration of same is the source of a great
Agree to disagree…
“Direct Registration” makes it clear (IMHO) that all that ARIN provides is a
registration. The idea that an address block exists, let alone exists separate
from the registration of same is the source of a great deal of misunderstanding
and confusion in a great many places.
Owen -
We’ve got a range of possible terms, and each is imperfect in one or more
aspects –
“Direct Registration” actually has different interpretations, including the
concept that an address block is distinct from the registration of same. For
this reason alone, it’s likely less than ideal.
John,
At least in my case, this was previously well understood. I appreciate your
clarification, but I stand by my suggestion that a new term should be applied.
I think “direct registration” is probably the best choice of language. Issuance
implies that ARIN had possession of a thing and
Hello all,
ARIN staff would like to provide the following clarification on this change.
The changes being requested in the NRPM through this policy (2022-12) are
simply to ensure the NRPM stays synched with the current operational practices
of ARIN. Due to the fee harmonization completed in
> On Oct 2, 2023, at 07:21, Pellak, Kaitlyn via ARIN-PPML
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>> The rationale used was that it was more straightforward to revise the
>> definition across the NRPM rather than replace each relevant
>> instance of “allocation” and “assignment” with another term
>>
Hi all,
> The rationale used was that it was more straightforward to revise the
> definition across the NRPM rather than replace each relevant
> instance of “allocation” and “assignment” with another term
> (allocation appears 245 times, and assignment appears 101 times.)
I'm sure this has
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 6:39 PM Douglas Camin wrote:
> Reading the terms Allocation and Assignment, I see the primary
> distinction between them as one is “for you” and one is “for you to give to
> others.”
Hi Douglas,
To the extent that there was a "primary" distinction, it's that one
was for
”?
Thanks in advance –
Doug
--
Douglas J. Camin
ARIN Advisory Council
d...@dougcamin.com
From: ARIN-PPML on behalf of Owen DeLong via
ARIN-PPML
Date: Friday, September 29, 2023 at 5:51 PM
To: ARIN
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct
?
On Friday, September 29, 2023, Gary Buhrmaster
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:51 PM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I am of the opinion that if we are going to take this step,
> we should
> > consider new terminology altogether.
> >
> > Perhaps “registration” or
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:51 PM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
wrote:
>
> Personally, I am of the opinion that if we are going to take this step, we
> should
> consider new terminology altogether.
>
> Perhaps “registration” or “issuance” or similar.
>
> The meaning of allocation and assignment while
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 17:51 Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
wrote:
> Personally, I am of the opinion that if we are going to take this step, we
> should
> consider new terminology altogether.
>
> Perhaps “registration” or “issuance” or similar.
>
> The meaning of allocation and assignment while a
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:50 PM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
wrote:
> Personally, I am of the opinion that if we are going to take this step, we
> should
> consider new terminology altogether.
I second that. Allocation and assignment are "terms of art" with very
specific meanings and a massive
Personally, I am of the opinion that if we are going to take this step, we
should
consider new terminology altogether.
Perhaps “registration” or “issuance” or similar.
The meaning of allocation and assignment while a source of multiple
misunderstandings over the years hsve
been etched into
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
the discussion
at 3:50 PM
To: ARIN
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
Support as written, recommend the editorial process as this is an editorial
change in keeping with the fee structure realities rather than a change in
policy
Support as written, recommend the editorial process as this is an editorial
change in keeping with the fee structure realities rather than a change in
policy regarding how the registry is administered.
Owen
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 10:35, ARIN wrote:
>
> The following Draft Policy has been
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
the discussion
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
the
> On Aug 5, 2023, at 09:20, Peter Potvin
> wrote:
>
> Owen,
>
> Just wish to clarify what you mentioned:
>
> > “All ISP organizations who have no IPv4 resources directly issued to them
> > by an RIR qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /22”.
>
> By saying "who have no IPv4
Owen,
Just wish to clarify what you mentioned:
> “All ISP organizations who have no IPv4 resources directly issued to them
by an RIR qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /22”.
By saying "who have no IPv4 resources directly issued to them by an RIR",
this reads as the applicant cannot
Oh, that's a great distinction and should be easy to track. TBH, I'm surprised
it was not offered before. I believe this distinction can also be useful not
only in this policy, but in the others as well.
As it was mentioned in a previous email thread, I believe it was a few month
ago in a
ng via
ARIN-PPML
Date: Friday, August 4, 2023 at 3:23 PM
To: Scott Leibrand
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
As long as we are wordsmithing this, may I humbly suggest:
“All ISP organizations who have n
; Douglas J. Camin
> ARIN Advisory Council
> d...@dougcamin.com <mailto:d...@dougcamin.com>
>
> From: ARIN-PPML on behalf of Owen DeLong via
> ARIN-PPML
> Date: Friday, August 4, 2023 at 3:23 PM
> To: Scott Leibrand
> Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
As long as we are wordsmithing this, may I humbly suggest:
“All ISP organizations who have no IPv4 resources directly issued to them by an
RIR qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /22”.
Owen
As long as we are wordsmithing this, may I humbly suggest:
“All ISP organizations who have no IPv4 resources directly issued to them by an
RIR qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /22”.
Owen
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 22:35, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
> The placement of "only" in "All ISP
, 2023 at 1:08 PM
To: Scott Leibrand
Cc: arin-ppml@arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment
Language Update
Indeed -
I think that ‘only’ a transcription error, and your “solely” is where it was
supposed to have been. Solely does read better
ng
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To: ARIN
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Language Update
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The placement of "only" in "All ISP organizations with only IPv4 addresses
from an upstream provider qualify for an initial allocation of up to a
/22..." would have a presumably unintended effect of excluding ISP
organizations that have both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses from an upstream
provider. I
The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
the
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The following Draft Policy has been revised:
* ARIN-2022-12: Direct Assignment Language Update
Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2022_12/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate
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