Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread david friedman
... The thing that makes me extremely skeptical of these numbers is that I don't know a single gun owner who carries his/her gun outside the house unless the trip is to use the gun (to hunt or for target shooting). The vast majority of crimes against individuals are not perpetrated against p

Re: Questions about the stagflation episode...

2003-02-05 Thread Fred Foldvary
--- Bob Steinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... but that's different than economics where experts > can't even agree what will happen if you do simple things like change > interest rates. Would economists not agree that holding everything else constant, if market interests rates are lowered by

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread AdmrlLocke
It's my understanding that Kleck uses FBI crime statistics in his computations. Those are estimates of the active use of firearms to deter crimes. It appears that the ownership of firearms also passively discourages crimes: while the US has a hire rate of public crime than in Europe, the Euro

Re: anecdotal concealed carry

2003-02-05 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 2/5/03 5:59:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I agree that there is a disparity in life experience on this list. In my >mere 32 years of life, I have met dozens of people who illegally carry >concealed weapons. I know a few people who do this too, even though I've spent much o

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 2/5/03 3:18:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>While she was Attorney General, Janet Reno commissioned a study to try >to >>prove that private firearms ownership does not deter crime. The commission > >>concluded nonetheless that Americans use firearms .5 to 1.5 million times

RE: anecdotal concealed carry

2003-02-05 Thread john hull
--- Gil Guillory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "One man I know was convicted of tax evasion, was on the lam for almost 2 years with his wife (part of the time in a cabin in the woods with his wife, reading Bohm-Bawerk and Mises by night and hunting by day)" Hunting or poaching?

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread david friedman
How would one estimate the accuracy of self-reports of self-defense? I know in medical research you can assess the validity of self-reported health by doing follow up medical exams or seeing if the respondent dies or becomes seriously ill shortly after the survey. One possibility would be to chec

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread david friedman
Who knows the impact on crime of simply having an NRA sticker on the front window of a home, or a sign that says, "This home protected by Smith and Wesson." No way to know (even with a survey) the number of times owning or giving the perception of owning a fire arm has provided disincentive to a w

RE: anecdotal concealed carry

2003-02-05 Thread Gil Guillory
I agree that there is a disparity in life experience on this list. In my mere 32 years of life, I have met dozens of people who illegally carry concealed weapons. These people overlap considerably with those that don't file income taxes, work for cash only, or in another way significantly evade ta

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread William Dickens
>How would one estimate the accuracy of self-reports of self-defense? I >know in medical research you can assess the validity of self-reported >health by doing follow up medical exams or seeing if the respondent dies >or becomes seriously ill shortly after the survey. Well one thing one can do is

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread William Dickens
>I would take that bet, and not based on a survey, but simply anecdotal >evidence from the 6 people I personally know ... This is the problem with dueling anecdotes (and perhaps goes some way to explaining our different perspectives). In my 48 years of life I've known hundreds of people who own

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread William Dickens
>While she was Attorney General, Janet Reno commissioned a study to try to >prove that private firearms ownership does not deter crime. The commission >concluded nonetheless that Americans use firearms .5 to 1.5 million times a >year to deter crimes. Given the obvious bias of the study, this c

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
How would one estimate the accuracy of self-reports of self-defense? I know in medical research you can assess the validity of self-reported health by doing follow up medical exams or seeing if the respondent dies or becomes seriously ill shortly after the survey. Is self-defense just one of th

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread AdmrlLocke
In a message dated 2/5/03 12:01:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>Indeed, the main finding from the surveys is not the brandishment result >>but the fact that guns are used defensively several million times a year >>(according to Kleck's survey and several others.) > >Which is highly suspect.

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread Fred Childress
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:24:50 -0500, "William Dickens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >I would bet any money that the true fraction of people who > use firearms in self-defense (brandishment or otherwise) is a whole heck > of a lot lower (an order of magnitude or more) than what is suggested by > Klec

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread Alex T Tabarrok
Yes, Bill's points about surveys are technically correct but Kleck was aware of these issues and tried to design a survey to handle them as best as is possible. See Kleck's papers for details. Alex -- Alexander Tabarrok Department of Economics, MSN 1D3 George Mason University Fairfax, VA, 2

Re: Lott

2003-02-05 Thread William Dickens
>Indeed, the main finding from the surveys is not the brandishment result >but the fact that guns are used defensively several million times a year >(according to Kleck's survey and several others.) Which is highly suspect. It is computed by projecting the fraction of people in a relatively smal

Lott

2003-02-05 Thread Alex T Tabarrok
What doesn't come through in the Lott material on Slate is that the 98% figure is one sentence in a big book. The vast bulk of Lott's work on shall-issue laws is based on publicly available data. The best figure on defensive gun use involving brandishment only is from a survey by Kleck and it is

book review: in defense of free capital markets

2003-02-05 Thread Alypius Skinner
  http://www.derosa-research.com/barrons.htm July 2, 2001 IN DEFENSE OF FREE CAPITAL MARKETSBy David F. DeRosaBloomberg Press, $27.95, 230 pp. Reviewed by Gene Epstein This book is the proverbial tall drink of water after a long trek through an intellectual desert.