[asterisk-users] app_dictate problems

2007-04-28 Thread David Josephson
Has no one else experienced the problem I mentioned a few days ago with 
app_dictate? Or maybe no one is using that app. We're having a problem 
with choppy audio and failure of the accelerated playback feature which 
seems to be consistent on a couple of installs, failing with some SIP 
carriers and working fine with others. MOH and other audio playback 
features seem to work fine. What's different about app_dictate?


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[asterisk-users] app_dictate playback problems

2007-04-24 Thread David Josephson
I wonder if anyone else is having these problems. We are running 
Asterisk 1.2.17, with an assortment of SIP users and peers. This is 
running on an 600 MHz P3 with CentOS 4.4, and worked properly in 
Asterisk 1.2.15. Nothing else running on the server except the usual 
support stuff like sshd, a mostly idle httpd, and no GUI.


app_dictate works fine for recording, but on some calls during playback 
the audio jumps around, playing fragments of the file. Using the fast 
playback mode sometimes works, sometimes causes the jumping around to 
get worse.


Incoming calls to the Dictate() application from different SIP carriers 
and different hard and soft phones give drastically different results. 
For instance, dialing in via an 01 Communications DID (resold by 
Broadvoice) at 831-713-4569 fails on playback (as described, just 
fragments of audio) every time. Dialing in via a Broadwing DID (resold 
by Vitelity) at 831-621-1913 works. Calling from a Grandstream phone 
fails, from a Cisco 7960 works most of the time, from a Motorola VT-1005 
ATA always works.


All other playback modes including MOH work fine.

I have some clue, but not enough. Any ideas?
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: LiveVOIP

2005-05-02 Thread David Josephson
Luki writes about choppy audio with LiveVOIP. We have an almost 
identical situation except that we were switched from the San Diego 
gateway to the Van Nuys gateway. Some improvement but still not usable 
for real customers. I have an open trouble ticket with them and no 
progress. Doesn't matter whether it's MOH, IVR audio or calls; incoming 
audio and DTMF dialing is fine, outgoing audio to the PSTN is choppy, at 
best one dropout every 10 seconds, usually one short dropout every one 
to three seconds. The comments from their tech support and CTO were that 
they were aware of the problem and it was a capacity issue that they 
were working on. There is a separate problem in that ringback tone (or 
any other audio sent without answer supervision being active, 
apparently) is not played to the PSTN side. This is not unique to 
LiveVOIP and has been discussed (with its workarounds) before. I don't 
mind their brusque attitude or the lack of user-level support, but we 
won't be able to use their service if they can't fix the dropouts. There 
is a lot of clatter here on the list about them not being a real 
provider but a lot of this is sour grapes from people reselling more 
expensive service. We'll see ... they don't have to be 100% facilities 
based to provide good service, but they do have to fix this issue.
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: T1/DS1/ISDN PRI

2005-04-28 Thread David Josephson

 

My understanding of the T-1 TDM and the PSTN side is pretty solid, as it
is mainly based off of Intel Corporation's T1/E1 Technology Primer (see
Sources), but the CPE side is largely deduced from what I knew about the
PSTN side.  There may be holes or mistakes, so I would appreciate any
corrections or additions that you can offer. Specifically, I would like
a detail of the TDM - VoIP conversion process, similar to the basic T-1
TDM one I provided.
   

You are severely confused, using wrong terminology, so it is very hard for 
us to understand what exactly you are trying to say and what you are 
asking. 
 

Now, be gentle.
What someone is missing, is that TDM and VoIP aren't converted. TDM 
PRI's include signaling in the same bitstream. VoIP uses separate data 
paths for signaling and voice. The voice data can be the same, or different.

The differences between a T-1, DS-1, and ISDN are subtle and not
universally agreed upon.  For a discussion of these issues see the
following links:
   

They are not subtle and they are very clear.
 

Agreed. But not to him. T1 refers to the line coding on 2 physical pairs 
of wire to encode and carry a 1.544 Mbps datastream. T2 is four of those 
signals multiplexed onto 2 pairs of wire. T3 is 28 DS1's (7 DS2's) 
multiplexed onto two coaxial cables. DS1 is a logical concept that 
defines what to do with that signal, what the bits mean; each DS1 is 
made up of 24 DS0 time slots. An ISDN PRI is the definition that one 
uses 23 of the time slots for 23 voice channels, plus one DS0 dedicated 
to signaling. A DS3 is 28 DS1's (and is usually carried on a T3 physical 
layer, does it begin to make sense?)

What's the diff between a T1 and a DS1
(http://pbxtech.info/showthread.php?t=1100) PRI setup
(http://pbxtech.info/showthread.php?t=1250)
   

Don't try to gain knowledge from web forums, you'll only become dumber, it
is like learning about hosting by reading WHT. I feel dumber already after
reading those posts.
 

It's too bad. A lot of people without any telephone background try to 
make up stuff using pieces of the old terminology and wonder why they 
stay confused. They could look it up, but they don't. For instance 
DID's. DID has a specific meaning and inward service from the PSTN 
handed off on VOIP isn't it.

There's no difference. DS1 is a standard signaling with 1.54Mbps raw
capacity. T1 is a product name for DS1 by your carriers. PRI is primary
rate ISDN which is DS1 partitioned into 23 Bearer channels for calls,
and one Data  channel for ISUP call signaling.
 

Not quite. See above. T1 is the physical interface, DS1 is what you 
carry on it.

- Is my understanding of using the same codecs and signaling protocols
on both sides of the Asterisk server in order to circumvent transcoding
and conversions on the server correct?
   

Yes
 

- Are there any other host-intensive processes that I should consider
offloading to the gateway, such as echo cancellation?
   

Yes, echo cancellation.
 

- What does the PCM µ-law codec used in T-1 multiplexing map to in terms
of Asterisk codecs (G.711 µ-law, perhaps)?
   

Yes, PCM u-law codec is exactly the same as G.711 ulaw. 
 

And outside of North America and Japan, a-law is used.
 

- What codec does the Monitor application use when digitally recording
calls (if possible, I would like to avoid transcoding the streams when
recording and let sox handle the conversions on a different box)?
   

I *believe* that it will write the data in G.711 format. Don't rely on 
this though.
 

No. It writes data to whatever format the sound card supports, usually 
16 bit linear (raw) which becomes .wav if you add file headers to it.

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Re: T1/DS1/ISDN PRI

2005-04-28 Thread David Josephson

It is my understanding that TDM is circuit switched and VoIP is packet 
switched.  It would seem to me that at some point in a TDM-VoIP gateway, 
a change from circuit switching to packet switching is happening, and 
vice versa depending on the direction of the signals.  I was just 
wondering if anyone could detail that process and tell me if it is 
resource-intensive.  If I'm completely off-base, please point me in the 
right direction.
 

Not off-base, but you haven't made it all the way home yet. This is 
another layer of the puzzle, and again we are not talking about apples 
and apples here. Circuit switched means that there is a (real or 
virtual) circuit that takes data on an input port and delivers it to an 
output port somewhere. Packet switched means that each packet of data 
is examined by each port it passes, to see where it should be sent. 
Normally this layer of VoIP traffic is handled not in Asterisk, but in a 
router. You could run the router on the same Linux box that's running 
Asterisk (and send packets to different Ethernet ports depending on 
their destination address) but normally this task is handled by a 
separate router. There is a small computational overhead associated with 
adding and decoding Ethernet packets but the main routing work is done 
outside Asterisk, and isn't too intensive. You could read up on TCP/IP 
routing and understand how this works in more detail.

It's too bad. A lot of people without any telephone background try to 
make up stuff using pieces of the old terminology and wonder why they 
stay confused. They could look it up, but they don't. For instance 
DID's. DID has a specific meaning and inward service from the PSTN 
handed off on VOIP isn't it.
   

Do you have a good, reliable source that I could take a look at?
 

It's not something you can take a look at in my experience. Some of 
the Bell System training material that comes up on eBay is good. You 
need to follow the progress from circuit-switched voice telephony circa 
1930 through modern TDM, and then look at the development of TCP/IP 
switching separately.

Is there a way to specify the format?  What if there is no sound card on 
the Asterisk server?
 

No sound card, no monitor. Recording to the various file formats is 
possible, as Herman mentioned.

Your reference picture is fine ... but note that Asterisk can be the 
TDM/VoIP gateway, particularly when Digium releases their DS3 card (644 
voice channels!) working, a lot more cheaply than a standalone box from 
some hardware vendor.

 

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[Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip status report

2005-04-22 Thread David Josephson
There has been improvement in the quality of LiveVoip connections. Still 
some packet loss and resultant choppy audio, a little worse than with 
Vonage or Broadvoice. As noted in several posts over the past months, 
they still don't handle indication of ringing on an IAX channel if the 
caller has dialed a number in the Asterisk switch (for instance with the 
DISA app). The workaround previously suggested, to Answer() and then run 
Ringing() doesn't work in this case, because it still sends the IAX 
command for ringing which LiveVoip doesn't recognize. However, 
Playtones(ring) does work and represents a usable workaround for the 
price. They claim to be working on a new session controller that will 
fix this and other problems. We'll see.
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[Asterisk-Users] Tonelist questions

2005-04-21 Thread David Josephson
In some tonelists, as used in Playtones or indications.conf, I've seen a 
notation to set levels, for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED] The -10 doesn't 
seem to do anything. Is there a patch that will enable setting levels in 
a tonelist?
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Re: Ringing problems was [Asterisk-Users] TDM400P Revision question.

2005-04-20 Thread David Josephson
Rich Adamson responded to an earlier reply (not from me)
Eric, those links have nothing to do with his stated problem. The
problem is 105v AC on the pstn line when on-hook and no ringing.
No, he says the issue is about ringing and strange voltages on his 
Digium TDM400 FXS ports, not the PSTN line. He measures 107 VAC on the 
line with the phone on hook and not ringing. Are we sure this is 
measured across the line and not from one side of the line to ground?

If there were 107 volts AC on the pair, and there was any current 
available, the phone would ring all the time. Since it doesn't, it's 
likely to be a faulty meter or (more likely) a high resistance ground 
fault in the PC power supply providing a sneak path for a few microamps 
of power line voltage to get to the pair. Check grounding of the PC case.

The basic problem however is that (assuming the meter is right) there is 
only 45 volts during the ring interval. This is not enough for most 
ringers. Try boostringer=1 as suggested by the last response and check 
the ring voltage then. Many ringers need at least 75 volts to function 
properly.
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[Asterisk-Users] LiveVoip incoming, no ringback still

2005-04-15 Thread David Josephson
I see in the list archives that this problem came up before, but there 
was no fix for it. Any clues now?

Inbound calls from LiveVoip work (I am assuming they will soon fix their 
packet loss issues at the San Diego pop) except for one thing -- no 
ringback when the called extension is ringing. My inbound context gives 
the caller a message and DISA dialtone,  DTMF digits decode OK, the 
extension rings and if the call is answered, it works. If it's not 
answered, voicemail works. But no ringback tone to the caller. Other 
incoming SIP and IAX calls get ringback. If I set DIAL_OPTIONS to m, the 
caller gets music on hold during the ring interval, but setting it back 
to r yields silence.
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[Asterisk-Users] Limitations of aah

2005-03-30 Thread David Josephson
Dean Collins asks about limitations to aah/AMP that keep some people 
from adopting it entirely, and resorting to editing the config files 
directly. I'm one of those, but it's getting a lot better. Note, I tried 
0.3 for an experiment, began again with 0.5 which works fine (with 4 
clone FXOs, some different sip phones, an ATA and interface to various 
iax and sip peers) and am planning to migrate to the next version soon.

One of the good things about aah is that unlike other precooked 
installs, it actually compiles the installation on your box, which 
verifies that you have a development environment so that you *can* make 
patches etc without worrying about whether you have the right compiler, 
libraries and utilities.

And yes, you can edit all the config files directly from within AMP. I 
just find it usually quicker to do it from the shell. If someone is 
fluent with vi or nano, it's hard for them to accept a GUI cut-n-paste 
editor.

The only thing that's really missing is the command to reload whatever 
is needed to implement changes that have been made. A plain reload 
doesn't see zap channel changes for instance. When you edit those files, 
it should know to restart * when needed.

My biggest complaint is the lack of documentation. There will (probably, 
for most people) always be things we want to do in the dialplan that 
need to be written from scratch rather than drop-in from AMP. It would 
be nice to know where the globals defined in each 
[filename]_additional.conf were used by aah and AMP; comments on each 
line would be great. The AMP team should concentrate on documenting the 
AMP interface and let the Asterisk doc team work on documenting the 
commands. And FOP is another set of docs -- it took me some time to find 
the config files, and who knows what's possible within them? Let us know 
how to use AMP to pass stuff to * unless you are willing and able to 
track all the apps within it at once.

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[Asterisk-Users] Multiple outgoing calls through VOIP providers

2005-03-25 Thread David Josephson
Trying to get some straight info from the VOIP providers is difficult. 
Say there's a small Asterisk switch and it's registered with Broadvoice 
or LiveVOIP or someone. There are a couple of people using the switch, 
one is on an outgoing call with the VOIP provider. What happens when 
someone else initiates another outgoing call through that provider on 
the same SIP registry? Does * know that the SIP account is busy or does 
it dial out anyway? Does the provider care? Do I establish a call group 
of SIP accounts like I would of Zap trunks and Dial/g1 ?

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Square key KTS app on *

2005-03-25 Thread David Josephson
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 08:00 -0800, Mark W Wood wrote:
 I have searched both the wiki and googled looking for a solution to
 a square key configuration. I need to have C.O. lines to appear on
 the buttons to facilitate a small office. All of the users can see
 each other and calls are put on hold and picked up by the other
 users instead of transferred. Has anyone done this? Can it be
 accomplished and how is it accomplished? Thanks in advance.
There is already a bounty posted on the voip-info wiki on this, 
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Multiple+line+appearances+on+a+single+line+ADSI+phone

The problem is not in Asterisk -- this sort of functionality could be 
built easily -- but in the phone. If you have a phone with multiple line 
appearances, emulating a key system for line selection and outbound 
calling is not a problem, you just have each button programmed to call 
an extension when you pick it up, and map that extension to the DISA 
application. The problem is how to emulate the busy lamp field (BLF) so 
the lights on the phone read out the status of the lines. This really 
depends on how the phone implements ADSI or other protocols to control 
the lights etc. on it.

Find a phone with the right addressable lights and displays and it 
shouldn't be too difficult to pull the information out of * to send to 
the phone.


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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk-Users Digest, Vol 8, Issue 216

2005-03-25 Thread David Josephson


Can I program a specific C.O. line directly to a button?
   

Adopting the Critchfield style for a moment, no, *you* probably can't. 
But, depending on one's expertise with the hardware and Asterisk, it can 
certainly be done. I am by no means an Asterisk expert but have about 35 
years of random phone experience. I have an ancient Siemens HiNet SIP 
phone here with buttons on it that I can push and get dialtone from any 
of my * trunks. Any SIP phone with programmable buttons should be able 
to do that (hint: an s extension to a context that only accesses one 
trunk, or DISA)

First turn off the HTML email, please.
Next spend a bit of time thinking about phones you have seen that use
standard analog ports. It isn't a normal option to have more than 1
line, and unless you are getting into cheap shared signal phone setups.
you usually don't see more than 2 lines.
 

The term square key is from 1A/1A1/1A2 key set terminology, 1950's to 
90's more or less.

If you go the SIP route, you might get a little further down the road,
but you also take a chance of integrating echo into the system. 

The answers are there for someone with the requisite background
knowledge of the hardware available. 
 

Yes. This particular answer is dependent on the programming capabilities 
of the instrument in question and of the programmer in question.
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[Asterisk-Users] Message waiting/station busy conflict?

2005-03-17 Thread David Josephson
Greetings list,
We are having a puzzle with * (asteriskathome 0.5) and SIP phones 
(SPA2000 ATA's). If callwaiting is enabled, everything (including call 
waiting) is normal. If callwaiting is turned off, the phone will not 
accept incoming calls and the call goes straight to whatever is 
programmed for the busy voicemail response. It doesn't matter whether 
reinvite is on or off, or whether the phones are registered or not.  
database show looks like

/CALLTRACE/2369   : 2368
/CALLTRACE/2370   : 2368
/CW/2368  : ENABLED
/CW/2369  : ENABLED
/SIP/Registry/2368: 
6x.xxx.xx.xx:5060:3600:2368:sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5060
/SIP/Registry/2369: 
6x.xxx.xx.xx:5061:3600:2369:sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:5061

Here is the relevant snip from the log. What did I leave out?
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   == Manager 'admin' logged on from 127.0.0.1
Mar 17 12:12:09 DEBUG[1348]: Manager received command 'command'
Mar 17 12:12:09 DEBUG[1348]: Manager received command ''
Mar 17 12:12:09 DEBUG[1348]: Manager received command 'Logoff'
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   == Manager 'admin' logged off from 
127.0.0.1
Mar 17 12:12:09 DEBUG[1348]: Unable to find key '2369' in family 'CW'
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   dialparties.agi: Extension 2369 has 
call waiting disabled
Mar 17 12:12:09 DEBUG[1348]: Unable to find key '2369' in family 'CFB'
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   dialparties.agi: Max calls of 1 
exceeded - deleting from dial
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   dialparties.agi: Dial string is empty - 
nothing to do
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]:   dialparties.agi: Was direct call, 
jumping to priority 23
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]: -- AGI Script Executing Application: 
(NoOp) Options: ()
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]: -- AGI Script dialparties.agi 
completed, returning 0
Mar 17 12:12:09 VERBOSE[1348]: -- Executing 
ESC[1;36;40mWaitESC[0;37;40m(ESC[1;35;40mSIP/2368-f359ESC[0;37;40m, 
ESC[1;3
5;40m2ESC[0;37;40m) in new stack
Mar 17 12:12:11 VERBOSE[1348]: -- Executing 
ESC[1;36;40mVoiceMailESC[0;37;40m(ESC[1;35;40mSIP/2368-f359ESC[0;37;40m, 
ESC[1;35;40mb2369ESC[0;37;40m) in new stack
Mar 17 12:12:11 DEBUG[1348]: Difference is 39520, ms is 4960
Mar 17 12:12:11 VERBOSE[1348]: -- Playing 
'voicemail/default/2369/busy' (language 'en')

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[Asterisk-Users] Obscure * command and audio questions

2005-03-16 Thread David Josephson
A few bits and pieces that I hope someone here has answers for. 
Basically, I'm in the audio business and I hope to get better control of 
the audio performance in *.

1. I seem to recall seeing a tonelist parameter that allowed tones to be 
set at levels other than 0, for instance !1000/[EMAIL PROTECTED] would generate 1 
kHz for half a second at -20 dBm0. But this doesn't work and I can't 
find the original reference. Anyone?

2. In ztmonitor there is a bargraph for setting levels, and there's a 
patch available in bug 2783 to show numeric values for the levels on tx 
and rx paths. Has anyone calibrated these numbers to dBfs or dBm0? They 
look like a straight decimal conversion of the audio bitstream but how 
literal is this?

3. Levels from app_milliwatt and Playtones are different. app_milliwatt 
says it's generating a mu-law bitstream but I can't find the code that's 
actually doing this. What does Playtones use?

4. Is it possible to tweak the gains of the transcoding modules without 
patching the source? What about non-transcoded calls like straight a-law 
to a-law connections, for instance?

5. In various docs rxgain and txgain in zapata.conf are said to be in dB 
or percent or some arbitrary number. My C is very rusty, but in 
chan_zap.c the number seems to be converted to a linear gain number 
using a formula for voltage gain rather than power gain.  Has anyone 
calibrated this?

Thanks
David Josephson
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[Asterisk-Users] Sangoma and other ISA T1 cards

2005-03-09 Thread David Josephson
There is a mention that the current Sangoma T1 cards (A10[1,2,4]) work 
with * using their WANPIPE drivers. Has anyone used any older Sangoma 
cards that also support WANPIPE ?
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: FRS over *

2005-02-26 Thread David Josephson
On the various technical issues raised here (OK, we posted the rules, we 
won't discuss the legality anymore) I think there is only one main 
obstacle to using FRS radios for extensions on *. They are simplex 
(push-to-talk, release-to-listen). The protocol for dealing with 
voice-activated-switching (VOX) has been used in ham and public safety 
simplex autopatches but it's really tricky to get right. It would be 
much easier if you used GMRS or business band radios programmed to 
transmit on one frequency and listen on another, that way the base can 
be set up with one pair of frequencies and the portables on the opposite 
split. Yes, you need two antennas or a duplexer, but this would be a 
better way to do it than trying VOX and carrier interruptions to make it 
work simplex.

Some of the cheap FRS radios have surprisingly good RF performance, I 
wouldn't be too put off by hams telling you they will self-destruct. 
Yes, they are programmed to time out after a few seconds or a minute of 
talking, but you will need to make your transmissions brief anyway so 
you can hear what the other people on the channel are saying. They 
aren't as fragile as they look.

FRS is also narrow band (3 kHz deviation, 11.25 kHz channel bandwidth). 
I don't think you would be able to get more than about 1200 bps of data 
over this channel. Garmin does transmit GPS data over GMRS at that rate.

The modern (last 10 years or more) commercial Motorola radios don't need 
a special programmer, just an interface box and PC software (which can 
be expensive). But only a few of these have the narrow band mode needed 
for compatibility with FRS (and none are legal for FRS as they are not 
type-accepted as such). Nearly all are OK for GMRS though. These were 
very expensive radios though, and while you might get them on eBay for 
$10, the batteries will be much more than that.

Only one brand of cheap GMRS radios that I've seen (Garmin) has the 
duplex mode that allows use with repeaters and duplex base stations. I 
think this is essential for successful integration with a phone system.

My recommendation would be to use a duplex base station radio on a low 
power business band channel pair. Any of the low power UHF repeaters 
would be OK for this (the repeater logic is all handled by app_rpt). You 
can get a license for the itinerant frequencies that costs just a little 
more than a GMRS license, and be able to use real portable and mobile 
radios and real antennas. There are plenty of these available with dtmf 
pads so you could have full control of your * switch.
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk-Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 304

2005-02-25 Thread David Josephson
Daniel Nystrom wrote
It seems like the Radio discussions is closing in on something I was
interested in.
How about controlling 30 2-way radios via E1 and 30-channel Mux
(channel bank?) with EM signalling?
I think the Mux uses CAS and each channel has Audio out, PTT, Audio
IN, Busy. 6-wire connection i guess?
That should be a really nice setup with Asterisk!
Anyone tried something like this?
We didn't do it with Asterisk, but a group I have been part of for about 30 
years is doing this in northern California using homemade crossbar switches and 
Mitel PBXs and T1. Obviously we are more than a little interested in Asterisk.
One last time - go read Jim Dixon's app_rpt stuff, that looks like the place to 
start.
Now we need someone to write a module to emulate an IMTS base station and our 
telco will be complete ;)
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: FRS radios on *

2005-02-25 Thread David Josephson
Rich Adamson writes
GMRS, FRS and MURS radios may not be interconnected with the PSTN (47
 CFR 95.141). There has been a lot of talk from lobbyists to clarify this
 rule, but as it stands you could conceivably connect a *private* network
 to GMRS or MURS radios (you can't make any plugins or modifications to
 an FRS radio that isn't type accepted with the radio, so connecting a
 phone line or * box would be out). The language is vague, see the
 history at http://www.provide.net/~prsg/
 Would plugging into the headphone jack with a phone-patch-type device
 be considered a modification for radios with vox capability?
It seems dumb, but that's the way the rules are written. A patch would 
be other apparatus wouldn't it?

Sec. 95.*194* (*FRS* Rule 4) *FRS* units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified *FRS* unit. (You can identify an
FCC certified *FRS* unit by the label placed on it by the manufacturer.)
(b) You must not make, or have made, any internal modification to an
*FRS* unit. Any internal modification cancels the FCC certification and
voids your authority to operate the unit in the *FRS*.
(c) You may not attach any antenna, power amplifier, or other
apparatus to an *FRS* unit that has not been FCC certified as part of that
*FRS* unit. There are no exceptions to this rule and attaching any such
apparatus to a *FRS* unit cancels the FCC certification and voids
everyone's authority to operate the unit in the *FRS*.
(d) *FRS* units are prohibited from transmitting data in store-and-
forward packet operation mode.
[61 FR 28768, June 6, 1996, as amended at 68 FR 9901, Mar. 3, 2003]
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: FRS and GMRS via *

2005-02-24 Thread David Josephson
You don't need to reinvent anything to tie radios to *. Ham systems like 
IRLP, Echolink, eqso etc all have fairly tight controls to keep from 
being abused (although with a little Linux knowledge, the IRLP package 
can easily be used to set up your own network using their protocol). Jim 
Dixon seems to have done the work to integrate radios with * already. 
See http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html -- it's all there 
including a PCI card that interfaces to 4 duplex radios for $500 and a 
single card that interfaces to one radio for $100 (plus 2 FXS ports). 
For the rest of the details go look at the app_rpt application.

There has been a lot of speculation on this list on the legalities of 
doing this. For amateur use under Part 97, interconnection with the PSTN 
is fair game *if* a licensed amateur is always in control of the 
transmitter and the transmissions are strictly non-business. 
Non-amateurs can talk over the system but only when the transmitters are 
being controlled by licensed amateurs. The line in the sand is that you 
can order pizza over the autopatch, but you can't order cheese for your 
pizzeria.

GMRS, FRS and MURS radios may not be interconnected with the PSTN (47 
CFR 95.141). There has been a lot of talk from lobbyists to clarify this 
rule, but as it stands you could conceivably connect a *private* network 
to GMRS or MURS radios (you can't make any plugins or modifications to 
an FRS radio that isn't type accepted with the radio, so connecting a 
phone line or * box would be out). The language is vague, see the 
history at http://www.provide.net/~prsg/ 

FRS and MURS radios may be used for business without a license. See 
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/frsrules.htm  ... GMRS may be used for 
business too, but employees who aren't family members must have their 
own licenses.

Certain commercial business radio channels in the Private Land Mobile 
service may be interconnected with the PSTN outside of major 
metropolitan areas (specifically, more than 75 miles from the population 
centers listed in Part 90 of the rules), or with agreement from all 
co-channel licensees in your area, and also on low power itinerant 
channels. It's not trivial to get a frequency coordination and license 
but you can run your own mobile telephone service under these rules and 
conduct your regular business that way. The radios are a little more 
expensive than FRS radios but you do have a bit more privacy and control 
over what happens.
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Radio over *

2005-02-24 Thread David Josephson
Pete VK2YX writes
I've been involved with IRLP for about 5 years and am one of the original
install team.  I've gone through the emmotions of allowing other networks
connect to IRLP and I know its caused some lots of headache.
As far as a closed network goes, yes there is LOTS of passion to keep it HAM
only and I'd have to support that notion.  As far as non-radio users go,
Me too. But separate IRLP (Dave Cameron's project) from IRLP (the concept). There's 
nothing preventing someone from using the idea for a non-ham network, in fact there are 
several already (eQSO for PMR446, the European equivalent of FRS). And Jim Dixon has made 
a parallel effort AllStar using Asterisk. I'm sure there are more. Once 
again, go look at the app_rpt documentation at 
http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html and look at the app_rpt right their in your 
Asterisk distro.
DingoTel is the same sort of thing but with a voice recognition front end and 
voice activated transmit/receive switching VOX.  I haven't had much luck in 
applications where one end of the conversation is someone who isn't experienced 
with VOX.
73 de WA6NMF
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: list SNR

2005-02-21 Thread David Josephson
John Novack writes
Dare I suggest that a MUCH better job of documenting would go a long way 
towards eliminating the problems  you mention?

Now I realize that programmers are much more interested in writing code 
than documentation, as well as moving on to the next hot feature than 
making sure the current set work well, but . . .

I have found the Asterisk handbook Version 2, to be kind, poor, and the 
Mahler book sold for a small fortune obsolete as well as lacking. Most 
of what is published in that book is a rehash of what is available on 
line free for the taking.

Hi John - same experience here. Actually there were a couple of good 
efforts in this direction which have now merged. There are two volumes 
up now and more on the way, see www.asteriskdocs.org. Join and help make 
it happen. I have suggested that another volume ought to be about 
interfacing to carriers, legacy switches and subscriber equipment, etc.
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[Asterisk-Users] More *@Home puzzle

2005-02-15 Thread David Josephson
Is there a configuration difference for clone X100P cards versus 
compatible? I have a similar problem to what David Shaw posted earlier 
today. 0.5 installed OK, but mine just with one X100P clone. Default 
config files, edited zapata.conf per the FAQs so it includes the line
channel = 1
without the semicolon.

Any outgoing call attempt returns all circuits are busy announcement.
Edited extensions_additional.conf so the outgoing macro calls channel 1 
instead of group 1, no change (except the CLI reports it's dialing Zap/1 
instead of Zap/g1)

Console reports that it's executing Dial/Zap/g1/2345678 where that's the 
number I dialed, and then everyone is busy/congested...

zttool reports Generic Clone Board 1, no alarms, internally clocked, no 
misses or violations.

ztcfg - reports
Channel map:
Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)
1 channels configured.
Incoming calls are not answered. I uncommented the debug=yes line in 
/etc/sysconfig/zaptel, and now I can see RING! NO RING! etc when the 
incoming line is ringing, and NO BATTERY! BATTERY! after it stops. But 
no activity on the console CLI when this is happening.

Probably something simple and stupid, but I can't see it. Anyone else 
with this problem?
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: X100P problems

2005-02-15 Thread David Josephson
Yes - the problem was a missing signalling line in zapata.conf. Now in
and out work.
Also, it was news that reload from the console doesn't reflect changes
made in zaptel and zapata.conf entries. Any other config files that it
doesn't reload?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did you go into AMP and configure some place for
incomming calls to go?
--- David Josephson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Is there a configuration difference for clone X100P
cards versus 
compatible? I have a similar problem to what David
Shaw posted earlier 
   


 

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: card dialer phone

2005-02-14 Thread David Josephson
Rob at draughon.org writes
I recently obtained a Western Electric multi-line phone and am
seeking help with getting this beast working with *.
The interesting stuff in my * implementation consists of a T100P
card, a TDM400P card, and an Adtran TA750 channel bank with three quad-port
FXS modules and a quad-port FXO. The TA750 is wired to a 24-port Cat 5 patch
panel via a 25-pair Amp cable.
	The phone is a model 2662A1M; it has five lines, a hold button (I
presume), card dialer capability, and a 25-pair Amp cable for connecting to
The Phone System. (The card dialer feature, IMHO, scores major geek points.
If you're not familiar with it, you take a special plastic card about the
size of a credit card and punch out two tiny discs for each digit in a phone
number. When it's time to call that number, you insert the card in the
phone, take the handset off hook, push the START button, and--voila!--the
phone speed dials your party.)
 

Jerry has already posted the basics -- this is a traditional fat wire 
key system phone and will work with either 1A1 or 1A2 key equipment. 
The first pair is tip and ring, the second pair is A-lead control, the 
third is for the light. When you press the hold key, the A-lead is 
disconnected first; when you release the hold key, the line button pops 
out which disconnects tip and ring. The key telephone unit (KTU) card in 
the key service unit (KSU) chassis detects this sequence and puts a 
holding bridge on the line and changes the lamp from steady to winking. 
There is a group of telephone collectors putting together Asterisk boxes 
who will be able to fill you in on all relevant details, see 
www.ckts.info and join the list at 
http://lists.ckts.info/mailman/listinfo/voip

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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk-Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 113

2005-02-08 Thread David Josephson
Steve Blair writes
 I can redirect and relay calls to numerous destinations via
SER but because the Octel needs an SMDI interface for mailbox
identification I am stuck, none of the solutions thus far support
SMDI-SIP munging.
 I just started thinking about the possibility of using Asterisk
with a few FXS cards to provide the gateway between SIP and
the Octel. The problem is I still need an SMDI channel that is
integrated with the message processing part of the gateway.
 Has anyone look worked or developed any working models
that might help?
 

I have spent some time looking at this. There is no SMDI support for 
Asterisk but someone has posted a bounty for it. You might find that you 
can just replace the Octel with * but that's more of a jump than some 
are willing to take. There is the beginning of an APE derived C++ 
library for SMDI.

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[Asterisk-Users] EM trunk card?

2005-01-09 Thread David Josephson
Has anyone found an inexpensive EM trunk card that will play with *? 
Looking for an interface to a legacy electromechanical PBX that's able 
to pass answer supervision. Docs on the X100P card would be helpful, we 
could probably pull EM out of that. Any ideas?
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