Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-19 Thread Sven Fischer (support)
On Monday 02 May 2005 20:10, Pedro wrote:
 What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
 receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
 was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
 recite.

Cool idea !


 On 5/2/05, Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
   The user name is the extension and the password is always the same. Not
   hard to configure.
 
  With the SNOM 220, you have five buttons/lamps that can be used as
  line appearances--these buttons can each register to a different SIP
  URL.
 
  Each sidecar has 20 buttons/lamps, and you may have up to three
  sidecars.  Using the hint priority in Asterisk, the buttons serve as
  extension busy lamps.  You can also use these buttons to transfer calls.
 
  I have an executive suites customer where each tenant is a separate
  business.  For an incoming call, the attendant needs to know which DID
  number is being called so she can answer with the proper greeting.
 
  I would like the sidecar buttons to be able to register to a SIP URL, so
  an incoming call would blink the tenants button, but that is not
  possible--I can only use the five buttons on the phone for that purpose,
  and there are more than five tenants.
 
  A suggestion was to alter the Called ID Name to the DID number.  This
  would work for the attendant, but the tenant would like to see the
  original Caller ID Name.
 
  I would rather not have to put a PC at the attendants position, but that
  is the way this is shaping up.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
  Thanks,
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 12:40 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 Adam Goryachev wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.
 The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
 Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights show call 
 status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one of those other 
 extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or another color ) when a call 
 is connected on another extension?
 
 Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
 
 To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?

From what I have heard, the snom phone is capable of this. I have also
heard some people say they got it working on polycom phones, but I
haven't been able to get it working. Though maybe I haven't tried as
hard as I need to...

I have seen many requests from many people asking how to make this work,
and am yet to see a decent 'howto'...

Hopefully, someone with this working on a polycom will chip in with what
they needed to config in the xml files, and the *
extensions.conf/sip.con files

Regards,
Adam

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Welter
Pedro wrote:
What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
recite.
How did you do this so that the calling party does not hear the 
announcement?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Hales
I would love to see this - we have about 15 snom phones in the building here.

PaulH 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian 
Stredicke
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2005 3:53 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Olle E. Johansson
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

We at snom would love to have a good LED integration with Asterisk. The current 
state seems to be a good start, but can use some improvements.
What would be the best way to push this? Maybe sit together for a few days and 
work on the integration (doing some dirty hacks). Who would be the right person 
to talk to? Olle? 

CS 

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 Kennedy
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
 
 Adam Goryachev wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 
   
 
 2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want
 the same
 thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any 
 protocol that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of 
 asterisk ( and voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone 
 manufacture ), and what keeps it out of a lot of places.
 
 
 
 It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now
 
 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model) 
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines
 with blinking
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.
 
 The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
 
 Regards,
 Adam
 
 Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights show call 
 status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one of those other 
 extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or another color ) when a 
 call is connected on another extension?
 
 Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
 
 To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?
 
 Sean
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
So you have the receptionists voice right, then she goes for coffee and
someone else picks up, that would be odd... :)

Greg 

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

Pedro wrote:
 What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the 
 receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that 
 was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to 
 recite.
 

Why not turn that around?  Have the receptionist record a greeting for
each company, IE:

Hello this is company X, how may I help you?
Welcome to The Y Corporation, how may I direct your call?
Z Corp!  How can I help you?

that then gets Play()ed to the customer when the receptionist picks up
the call.  Saves wear and tear on the receptionists voice, so they'll
thank you, and it gives them a hint as to whicch company has been
called.

Jeff
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread The VoIP Connection
Christian,

The current snom scheme is great for most applications and would probably
work reasonably well for this user.  If you read the original post, he
indicates that he would be happy with a snom if he could make it work, and I
think this is the main issue with the snom 220 - getting this setup to work
can be a little tricky.  We have found in the past that extension monitoring
and multiple registrations don't play well together, which makes it hard to
use for a lot of situations.  This may be fixed now, I'm not sure when we
last tested this.

Receptionists who are used to the usual key system park and page routine
can be trained pretty easily to transfer to extensions if the system is set
up right. In my experience, most of these people are not stupid. Managing
and routing an endless stream of incoming calls is challenging and stressful
even under ideal circumstances. When a system doesn't work the way it should
it can be very frustrating.

I know this logic is kind of inside-out, but if you think of a receptionist
as a human auto-attendant/IVR and design a phone that supports this role you
will sell a lot of them.  A lot of times the receptionist (i.e. office
manager) is the decision-maker for phone system purchases.

Michael Crown
Managing Partner
The VoIP Connection
321.989.6728 ext. 611
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Christian Stredicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:53 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc: Olle E. Johansson
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

We at snom would love to have a good LED integration with Asterisk. The
current state seems to be a good start, but can use some improvements.
What would be the best way to push this? Maybe sit together for a few days
and work on the integration (doing some dirty hacks). Who would be the right
person to talk to? Olle? 

CS 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean 
 Kennedy
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
 
 Adam Goryachev wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 
   
 
 2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want
 the same
 thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any 
 protocol that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of 
 asterisk ( and voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone 
 manufacture ), and what keeps it out of a lot of places.
 
 
 
 It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now
 
 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model) 
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines
 with blinking
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.
 
 The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
 
 Regards,
 Adam
 
 Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights show call 
 status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one of those other 
 extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or another color ) when a 
 call is connected on another extension?
 
 Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
 
 To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?
 
 Sean
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Welter
Michael Welter wrote:
Pedro wrote:
What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
recite.
How did you do this so that the calling party does not hear the 
announcement?
Answering my own question:  A(x) in Dial command.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-03 Thread Christian Stredicke
Hi Michael,

you mean we should focus more on the usability (GUI) than the protocol
stuff? Maybe we should put the GUI programmer for a couple of days on
the receiptionists place and make sure he will have a lot of stress? :-)

Anyway, also for this usability stuff comments are welcome...

CS

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 The VoIP Connection
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:17 PM
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
 
 Christian,
 
 The current snom scheme is great for most applications and 
 would probably work reasonably well for this user.  If you 
 read the original post, he indicates that he would be happy 
 with a snom if he could make it work, and I think this is the 
 main issue with the snom 220 - getting this setup to work can 
 be a little tricky.  We have found in the past that extension 
 monitoring and multiple registrations don't play well 
 together, which makes it hard to use for a lot of situations. 
  This may be fixed now, I'm not sure when we last tested this.
 
 Receptionists who are used to the usual key system park and 
 page routine can be trained pretty easily to transfer to 
 extensions if the system is set up right. In my experience, 
 most of these people are not stupid. Managing and routing an 
 endless stream of incoming calls is challenging and stressful 
 even under ideal circumstances. When a system doesn't work 
 the way it should it can be very frustrating.
 
 I know this logic is kind of inside-out, but if you think of 
 a receptionist as a human auto-attendant/IVR and design a 
 phone that supports this role you will sell a lot of them.  A 
 lot of times the receptionist (i.e. office
 manager) is the decision-maker for phone system purchases.
 
 Michael Crown
 Managing Partner
 The VoIP Connection
 321.989.6728 ext. 611
 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christian Stredicke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:53 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Cc: Olle E. Johansson
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
 
 We at snom would love to have a good LED integration with 
 Asterisk. The current state seems to be a good start, but can 
 use some improvements.
 What would be the best way to push this? Maybe sit together 
 for a few days and work on the integration (doing some dirty 
 hacks). Who would be the right person to talk to? Olle? 
 
 CS 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean 
  Kennedy
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 PM
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
  
  Adam Goryachev wrote:
  
  On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
  

  
  2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want
  the same
  thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any 
  protocol that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of 
  asterisk ( and voip in general.  I smell an oportunity 
 for a phone 
  manufacture ), and what keeps it out of a lot of places.
  
  
  
  It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now
  
  The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM 
 (some model) 
  phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines
  with blinking
  red lights when a call arrives on that line.
  
  The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
  
  Regards,
  Adam
  
  Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights 
 show call 
  status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one of those other 
  extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or another color ) when a 
  call is connected on another extension?
  
  Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
  
  To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?
  
  Sean
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:

 2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want the same 
 thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any protocol 
 that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of asterisk ( and 
 voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone manufacture ), and 
 what keeps it out of a lot of places.

It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now

The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
red lights when a call arrives on that line.

The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.

Regards,
Adam

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Rob Thomas
On the subject of phones..

 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.

How about phones that can indicate if an extension is busy or not - eg,
Busy Lamp Field - can anyone point to a list of phones that implement
this? (The 'Asterisk standard extensions' page on voip-info mentions the
Snom, Polycom and Sayson(???) phones. Any *cheaper* ones?

--Rob

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
 Any *cheaper* ones?
 
 --Rob

You want a _cheap_ reception phone? I don't think you are going to get this.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Rob Thomas
 
 You want a _cheap_ reception phone? I don't think you are going to get
 this.

Heh. I had a sneaking suspicion that was going to be the answer 8)

--Rob

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Mark Johnson
Adam Goryachev wrote:
The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
red lights when a call arrives on that line.
The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
Regards,
Adam
 

I am currently having the same problem with our receptionist.  We use 
7960's, which I really like.  The problem with it is that when you are 
trying to manage 6 lines with it, it has a tendancy to make you mess 
up.  Example, you are talking on line 3 and about to transfer the call 
or put them hold when line 4 rings.  The SIP image will move to line 4 
and you inadvertantly answer line 4 instead of transfering line 3.  It 
would be nice if it would stay on the current button and let you select 
the line you want as opposed to it just jumping around to whatever the 
newest call happens to be.  The Skinny image was a little better in this 
respect.

Mark
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Max W Blackmer Jr
Take a look at the Polycom 360 if you only nee 12 lines. otherwise look
at the Snom 220 with a sidecar (up to a total of 3 side cars may be
added for a total of 65 lines in the extreme need.)

Max W . Blackmer,  Jr.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Matthew Boehm
Adam Goryachev wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:

 2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want the same
 thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any
 protocol that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of
 asterisk ( and voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone
 manufacture ), and what keeps it out of a lot of places.

 It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now

 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.

 The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.

Yes, but each of those 6 lines on the 7960 must have their own seperate
SIP username/password. And if you are a small office with 6 7960s, thats 36
username/passwords.

-Matthew

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
The user name is the extension and the password is always the same. Not hard
to configure.


 Yes, but each of those 6 lines on the 7960 must have 
 their own seperate SIP username/password. And if you are a 
 small office with 6 7960s, thats 36 username/passwords.
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Michael Welter
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
The user name is the extension and the password is always the same. Not hard
to configure.
With the SNOM 220, you have five buttons/lamps that can be used as 
line appearances--these buttons can each register to a different SIP URL.

Each sidecar has 20 buttons/lamps, and you may have up to three 
sidecars.  Using the hint priority in Asterisk, the buttons serve as 
extension busy lamps.  You can also use these buttons to transfer calls.

I have an executive suites customer where each tenant is a separate 
business.  For an incoming call, the attendant needs to know which DID 
number is being called so she can answer with the proper greeting.

I would like the sidecar buttons to be able to register to a SIP URL, so 
an incoming call would blink the tenants button, but that is not 
possible--I can only use the five buttons on the phone for that purpose, 
and there are more than five tenants.

A suggestion was to alter the Called ID Name to the DID number.  This 
would work for the attendant, but the tenant would like to see the 
original Caller ID Name.

I would rather not have to put a PC at the attendants position, but that 
is the way this is shaping up.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew Boehm wrote:
 Adam Goryachev wrote:
  The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
 
 Yes, but each of those 6 lines on the 7960 must have their own seperate
 SIP username/password. And if you are a small office with 6 7960s, thats 36
 username/passwords.

So? ??

With 100 of them, you have 600 entries in sip.conf ... I don't see the
problem?

Just write some simple script to create the entries automatically... I
wrote something like a 20 line shell script to build the polycom xml
files, and put them in the FTP dir, add the entries to the sip.conf, and
also add the entries for the extensions.conf (actually, I used the
asterisk DB magic, but same thing)...

So, to provision a new phone, I just:
./newphone macaddress extension passwd

and it is all done...

Regards,
Adam

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 08:40 -0600, Michael Welter wrote:
 A suggestion was to alter the Called ID Name to the DID number.  This 
 would work for the attendant, but the tenant would like to see the 
 original Caller ID Name.

Is there an original caller id name ??
You *might* be able to setup some dialplan magic to re-write the CIDName
again when transferring it. ie, overwrite the change you made when you
added the tennant name in front...

 I would rather not have to put a PC at the attendants position, but that 
 is the way this is shaping up.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Yeah, this sounds like the next best thing, while it may not sound like
a nice thing, I've had various thoughts about how 'cool' this could be.
Consider placing a web front end to allow your tennants to update their
greeting at will. When the call comes in, the 'current' text is
displayed on screen for your receptionist to say.

Lotsa other things are possible once you get to this stage...

Regards,
Adam
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Pedro
What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
recite.

On 5/2/05, Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
  The user name is the extension and the password is always the same. Not hard
  to configure.
 
 With the SNOM 220, you have five buttons/lamps that can be used as
 line appearances--these buttons can each register to a different SIP URL.
 
 Each sidecar has 20 buttons/lamps, and you may have up to three
 sidecars.  Using the hint priority in Asterisk, the buttons serve as
 extension busy lamps.  You can also use these buttons to transfer calls.
 
 I have an executive suites customer where each tenant is a separate
 business.  For an incoming call, the attendant needs to know which DID
 number is being called so she can answer with the proper greeting.
 
 I would like the sidecar buttons to be able to register to a SIP URL, so
 an incoming call would blink the tenants button, but that is not
 possible--I can only use the five buttons on the phone for that purpose,
 and there are more than five tenants.
 
 A suggestion was to alter the Called ID Name to the DID number.  This
 would work for the attendant, but the tenant would like to see the
 original Caller ID Name.
 
 I would rather not have to put a PC at the attendants position, but that
 is the way this is shaping up.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Jeff Pratt
Pedro wrote:
What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
recite.
Why not turn that around?  Have the receptionist record a greeting for 
each company, IE:

Hello this is company X, how may I help you?
Welcome to The Y Corporation, how may I direct your call?
Z Corp!  How can I help you?
that then gets Play()ed to the customer when the receptionist picks up 
the call.  Saves wear and tear on the receptionists voice, so they'll 
thank you, and it gives them a hint as to whicch company has been called.

Jeff
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Sean Kennedy
Adam Goryachev wrote:
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 

2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want the same 
thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any protocol 
that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of asterisk ( and 
voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone manufacture ), and 
what keeps it out of a lot of places.
   

It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now
The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model)
phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines with blinking
red lights when a call arrives on that line.
The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
Regards,
Adam
Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights show call 
status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one of those other 
extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or another color ) when a call 
is connected on another extension?

Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?
Sean
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 12:59 -0600, Jeff Pratt wrote:
 Pedro wrote:
  What I did once was create an announcement that got played to the
  receptionist announcing who the call was for based on the number that
  was called.  This allowed the receptionist to know which greeting to
  recite.
  
 
 Why not turn that around?  Have the receptionist record a greeting for 
 each company, IE:
 
 Hello this is company X, how may I help you?
 Welcome to The Y Corporation, how may I direct your call?
 Z Corp!  How can I help you?
 
 that then gets Play()ed to the customer when the receptionist picks up 
 the call.  Saves wear and tear on the receptionists voice, so they'll 
 thank you, and it gives them a hint as to whicch company has been called.

A friend of mine used to work in a bank call centre here, and he said
they used this to ensure that every call was answered
professionally/etc, however, when the greeting is quite long, often
people will attempt to interrupt 'you', and hence you may end up
double-talking ie, your recording of you + you actually saying
something

However, I'd just think those people are plain rude (though waiting
on hold for a long time is annoying also...)

Finally, could this even be accomplished within the asterisk dialplan?
ie, play a message when the dial is answered?

Regards,
Adam

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-02 Thread Christian Stredicke
We at snom would love to have a good LED integration with Asterisk. The
current state seems to be a good start, but can use some improvements.
What would be the best way to push this? Maybe sit together for a few
days and work on the integration (doing some dirty hacks). Who would be
the right person to talk to? Olle? 

CS 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sean Kennedy
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:46 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone
 
 Adam Goryachev wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:02 -0700, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 
   
 
 2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want 
 the same 
 thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any 
 protocol that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of 
 asterisk ( and voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone 
 manufacture ), and what keeps it out of a lot of places.
 
 
 
 It's alright, you can come out from under your rock now
 
 The Polycom IP 600, Cisco 7960, and apparently the SNOM (some model) 
 phones can all do what he wants. ie, have multiple lines 
 with blinking 
 red lights when a call arrives on that line.
 
 The polycom ip600 and cisco 7960 both have 6 lines available.
 
 Regards,
 Adam
 
 Ok, this is the first I've heard about it.  Will the lights 
 show call status?  As in, if the call is put on hold on one 
 of those other extensions, it will flash?  Or go green ( or 
 another color ) when a call is connected on another extension?
 
 Basically a mimic of the partner ACS systems?
 
 To my knowledge, there is no such thing.  Am I wrong?
 
 Sean
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-01 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi,

Citeren Tim Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Can you show us an example of using the callerID for this purpose?

Simple:

exten = 31531234567,1,SetCIDName(My DIDnr 1)
exten = 31538901234,1,SetCIDName(My DIDnr 2)

exten = _X.,2,Dial(SIP/myphone)


This way, the CallerID number is untouched, but the Name is set to your DID.

Best regards,
Florian
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-05-01 Thread Paul Hales
Rumour has is that Polycom will be releasing a reception console... 

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.

I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs 
to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red 
LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple extensions to my 
asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a line, so if the idiot 
receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she can pick it up, look at the 
buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone ringer rings), put call 
1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little I am an idiot and 
need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.

I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging up 
on people.

/rant

So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I 
tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even 
by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I 
get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.

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[Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Jason Brown
I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.

I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs 
to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red 
LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple extensions to my 
asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a line, so if the idiot 
receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she can pick it up, look at the 
buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone ringer rings), put call 
1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little I am an idiot and 
need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.

I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging up 
on people.

/rant

So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I 
tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even 
by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I 
get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Jason Brown wrote:
So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.
My suggestion is to get a good receptionist.  The receptionists at my 
customers are consistantly more technology oriented than other 
employees.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Mike Dent
On 4/30/05, Jason Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
 phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
 little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
 transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.
 
 I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs 
 to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red 
 LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple extensions to my 
 asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a line, so if the idiot 
 receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she can pick it up, look at the 
 buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone ringer rings), put 
 call 1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little I am an 
 idiot and need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.
 
 I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
 Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
 completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging 
 up on people.
 
 /rant
 
 So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? 
 I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, 
 even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, 
 before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.
 
 

Hi,
the Cisco 7960 (6 SIP lines) or the 7940 (2 lines) does what you wan, i think!
I have one here which is registered with 6 different extensions on my * box.
I can switch between calls on different buttons.

Mike

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Ron Wellsted
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Jason Brown wrote:
 I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
 phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
 little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
 transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.
 
 I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs 
 to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red 
 LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple extensions to my 
 asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a line, so if the idiot 
 receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she can pick it up, look at the 
 buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone ringer rings), put 
 call 1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little I am an 
 idiot and need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.
 
 I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
 Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
 completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging 
 up on people.
 
 /rant
 
 So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? 
 I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, 
 even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, 
 before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.

How many lines do you need?

The Cisco 7960 gives you 6, with call waiting you can get 2 calls on
each line.

You have to trade off between incoming lines and speed dials, unless you
can train the monkey^w receptionist (sorry, unfair to simians there) to
use the directories.

Seriously, you may need to look deeper here on the human side. Could
this be a people problem in that the receptionist does not want to
learn/is a friend/relative of a PBX supplier who is being usurped?  Have
you made an enemy of this person?

We have just switched over to Asterisk with 7960s. We have had a few
little problems but have not lost a call yet.  OK, we have left a few
callers on hold a bit longer than we intended, once or twice ;)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Mike Clark
Jason Brown wrote:
I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.
I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs to act like 
an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red LED's...what I do need is 
for the phone to register multiple extensions to my asterisk server and act like each SIP 
extension is a line, so if the idiot receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she 
can pick it up, look at the buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone 
ringer rings), put call 1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little 
I am an idiot and need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.
I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging up 
on people.
/rant
So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.
 

Take a look at the Polycom IP 600
Mike Clark
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Michael Welter
So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.

How many lines do you need?
The Cisco 7960 gives you 6, with call waiting you can get 2 calls on
each line.
You have to trade off between incoming lines and speed dials, unless you
can train the monkey^w receptionist (sorry, unfair to simians there) to
use the directories.
Seriously, you may need to look deeper here on the human side. Could
this be a people problem in that the receptionist does not want to
learn/is a friend/relative of a PBX supplier who is being usurped?  Have
you made an enemy of this person?
We have just switched over to Asterisk with 7960s. We have had a few
little problems but have not lost a call yet.  OK, we have left a few
callers on hold a bit longer than we intended, once or twice ;)
In a multi-tenant environment, is there a way to display, on the phone, 
which DID (which tenant) is being called?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi,

Citeren Jason Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs
 to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red
 LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple extensions to my
 asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a line, so if the idiot
 receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she can pick it up, look at the
 buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone ringer rings), put
 call 1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little I am an
 idiot and need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.

Take a look at the SNOM220 phone. They come with an optional side panel to add
line or speed dial keys.

Florian
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi,

Citeren Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In a multi-tenant environment, is there a way to display, on the phone,
 which DID (which tenant) is being called?

We use the callerID name for that purpose.

Florian
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Tim Connolly
Can you show us an example of using the callerID for this purpose?

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Hi,

Citeren Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In a multi-tenant environment, is there a way to display, on the phone,
 which DID (which tenant) is being called?

We use the callerID name for that purpose.

Florian
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
 Take a look at the Polycom IP 600

I just added one to my desk as a test unit, I can't image you would need
anything more. We have Mitel 4015/4025/Superset for the office pbx I will be
replacing with *, and the Polycom 600 is a much better unit by far.

Chris Mason
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Rusty Shackleford

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 In a multi-tenant environment, is there a way to display, on 
 the phone, 
 which DID (which tenant) is being called?


Yes. We've done this by simply prepending a meaningful string onto the
front of the CIDName. It's a total kludge, but it works.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Sean Kennedy
Jason Brown wrote:
I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a VOIP 
phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20 buttons with 
little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call parking, attended 
transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through a voicemail menu.
I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically needs to act like 
an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with little red LED's...what I do need is 
for the phone to register multiple extensions to my asterisk server and act like each SIP 
extension is a line, so if the idiot receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she 
can pick it up, look at the buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2 (and the phone 
ringer rings), put call 1 on hold without hanging the caller up, and hit the little 
I am an idiot and need a line 2 button to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.
I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I get. 
Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is apparently 
completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls without hanging up 
on people.
/rant
So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist phone? I 
tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons to do this, even 
by following the manual. So please, any suggestions would be great, before I 
get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's idiocy.
1) I suggest you learn to live and like those idiots.  I also suggest 
you tone down that attitude and adjust it.  Those idiots contribute to 
YOUR pay.

2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want the same 
thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any protocol 
that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of asterisk ( and 
voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone manufacture ), and 
what keeps it out of a lot of places.

I can see this being implemented with a phone that speaks to *'s manager 
interface.  Who wants to talk to polycom or cisco about it?  :)

Sean
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] A good SIP receptionist phone

2005-04-30 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Hello Sean,
I thought the Polycom's had some kind of BLF Feature don't they?

I am thinking of getting two of them, so it would be nice to know,
otherwise I would get 2 more 7960's. (which are great phones)

Greg 

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Jason Brown wrote:

I have a problem. The average person is too freaking stupid to use a
VOIP phone. My experience has so far been that if it doesn't have 20
buttons with little red LED's on it, the user cannot comprehend call
parking, attended transfer, blind transfer, DND, and navigating through
a voicemail menu.

I need a good receptionist phone that works with Asterisk. It basically
needs to act like an avaya partner phone, I don't need 20 buttons with
little red LED's...what I do need is for the phone to register multiple
extensions to my asterisk server and act like each SIP extension is a
line, so if the idiot receptionist has a call ringing in on line 1, she
can pick it up, look at the buttons, see a call ringing in on line 2
(and the phone ringer rings), put call 1 on hold without hanging the
caller up, and hit the little I am an idiot and need a line 2 button
to pick up line 2, so on and so forth.

I love VOIP systems and all the functionality they bring and features I
get. Unfortunately, the average person in this country anymore is
apparently completely stupid and cannot understand how to juggle calls
without hanging up on people.

/rant

So seriously does anyone have a recommendation for a good receptionist
phone? I tried the Snom today and I can't get the programmable buttons
to do this, even by following the manual. So please, any suggestions
would be great, before I get fired at my dayjob for everyone else's
idiocy.


1) I suggest you learn to live and like those idiots.  I also suggest
you tone down that attitude and adjust it.  Those idiots contribute to
YOUR pay.

2) There isn't anything like what you want.  I know, I want the same
thing.  There is no phone out there that will do this with any protocol
that asterisk uses.  This is the one major failing of asterisk ( and
voip in general.  I smell an oportunity for a phone manufacture ), and
what keeps it out of a lot of places.

I can see this being implemented with a phone that speaks to *'s manager
interface.  Who wants to talk to polycom or cisco about it?  :)

Sean
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