Re: Top 10 and other lists should be entries, not feeds.

2005-08-31 Thread Dan Brickley
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Walter Underwood wrote: --On August 30, 2005 1:49:57 AM -0400 Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I’m sorry, but I can’t go on without complaining. Microsoft has proposed extensions which turn RSS V2.0 feeds into lists and we’ve got folk who are proposing

Re: The Atomic age

2005-07-16 Thread Dan Brickley
Henry Story wrote: Is the mixed format case really possible? Last time I looked there were problems, such as different tags using attributes with the same name but with different semantics. I thought we were close last time I looked, but not quite there. It seems feasible for a

Re: The Atomic age

2005-07-15 Thread Dan Brickley
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Dan Brickley wrote: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/samples/atom/a1.xml `Content-Type: text/xml; qs=0.9`. Hurray... I could fix that... question is, to what? :) The Atom spec says Atom docs are identified using the Atom media type, but I

Re: The Atomic age

2005-07-15 Thread Dan Brickley
Sjoerd Visscher wrote: Dan Brickley wrote: Let me emphasise that I'm not claiming these Atom docs are reasonably interpreted as RDF. Just that they seem to, by happy coincidence as it were, at least share a syntax with RDF. The intepretation of this syntactic state of affairs is up

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 15:48+1000] On 23/5/05 3:22 PM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antone Roundy suggests: +1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor € punt bylines to an extension To me that sounds like the simplest thing that can

Re: PaceClarifyAuthorContributor posted

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* James Aylett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 14:01+0100] On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 02:29:33PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 13:40]: What is the interop problem you are trying to avoid? You don't just throw in a SHOULD NOT and say otherwise it

Re: PaceClarifyAuthorContributor posted

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 10:35-0400] On 5/23/05, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be good if Atom were clear on whether repetition of the exact same name implies the two authors are distinct (eg. things written by father/son pairings, where they have same

Re: PaceClarifyAuthorContributor posted

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* James Aylett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 15:43+0100] On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 10:35:07AM -0400, Robert Sayre wrote: It would be good if Atom were clear on whether repetition of the exact same name implies the two authors are distinct (eg. things written by father/son pairings,

Re: posted PaceAuthorContributor

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* Walter Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 11:16-0700] --On May 23, 2005 10:52:47 AM -0700 Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're worried, one good way to address the issue would be to say that the semantics of this element are based on the Dublin Core's [dc:creator], DC is

Re: posted PaceAuthorContributor

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 18:26-0400] On 5/23/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 May 2005, at 7:44 pm, Dan Brickley wrote: What we have today is http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#H2 An entity primarily responsible for making the content

Re: How is Atom superior to RSS?

2005-05-22 Thread Dan Brickley
* Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-22 01:52-0400] I'll be making a presentation on Tuesday which will include a slide on how Atom improves on RSS. If you have any thoughts on this subject, I would appreciate hearing them. Which version of RSS? the RDF and non-RDF strands have pretty

Re: Atom feed refresh rates

2005-05-05 Thread Dan Brickley
* Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-05 18:35+0300] On May 5, 2005, at 16:24, Walter Underwood wrote: --On May 5, 2005 8:07:15 AM -0500 Mark Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be flippant, but we have one that's widely available. It's called the Expires header. You need

Re: Autodiscovery

2005-05-04 Thread Dan Brickley
* Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-05 02:35+1000] On 4/5/05 11:11 PM, Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The autodiscovery spec is a reasonable interpretation of the *one line* definition of the 'alternate' relation. how is a feed of recent entries a substitute version for

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-07 Thread Dan Brickley
* Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-07 17:22-0400] Sam Ruby wrote: Whether it is for accessibility, or for general usability, I want to ensure that every entry has a textual, non-remote component to it. +1 Yeah, but we can't really legislate that, can we? We are making

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-17 16:27-0800] EDITORIAL: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs, so the name

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Bjoern Hoehrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 11:13+0100] * Tim Bray wrote: There are a couple of places where we use uri in the markup, specifically the atom:uri element (3.2.2) and the uri attribute of atom:generator (4.2.5). In both cases they're not actually URIs, they're IRIs,

Re: s/url/web/

2005-03-18 Thread Dan Brickley
* Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-03-18 08:41-0700] On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 04:24 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: URIs and IRIs are the way we identify things (on, in, to and for...) the Web. So web to me seems natural. I think the question is which of these is meant by the web

Re: BAG Question: What is a feed? Sliding-Window or Current-State?

2005-02-06 Thread Dan Brickley
* John Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-06 13:58-0800] Since an entry is identified uniquely by its atom:id (though it can have different states at different times); As I understand the Web, the REST concepts that underpin HTTP are quite happy with their being multiple representations of

Re: Entry order

2005-02-05 Thread Dan Brickley
* Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-05 08:40-0800] On Feb 5, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Danny Ayers wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 23:21:50 -0500, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ordering of the element children of atom:feed element MUST NOT be considered significant. +1. +1 - I don't

Re: Dereferencing Identity Constructs

2005-01-31 Thread Dan Brickley
* Henry Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-31 16:25+0100] On 31 Jan 2005, at 05:22, Tim Bray wrote: On Jan 30, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: The content of an Identity construct SHOULD NOT be dereferenced, even when it comes from a normally dereferencable scheme. There is

Re: PaceFormatSecurity

2005-01-29 Thread Dan Brickley
* Asbjørn Ulsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-29 06:05+0100] On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:01:06 -0500, Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the question is whether we can and should outline HTML security issues. I don't think we can or should. Considering the large amount of

Re: PaceEnclosuresAndPix status

2005-01-26 Thread Dan Brickley
* Ray Slakinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-25 10:40-0500] +1 from me, I'm happy to see this added! +1 likewise to http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceEnclosuresAndPix Dan On 24-Jan-05, at 7:18 PM, Tim Bray wrote: If there were no further discussion: Got no -1's, seems useful, needed

Re: PaceExtensionConstruct status

2005-01-24 Thread Dan Brickley
* Joe Gregorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-24 20:44-0500] On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:41:40 -0500, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Gregorio wrote: +1 to the general Pace, but I would prefer to see the 'Simple Extension' dropped. It adds a level of complexity that isn't requried. and

Re: AtomOWL AtomIsRDF

2005-01-17 Thread Dan Brickley
* Henry Story [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-17 16:12+0100] I have put up two pages (Paces) on the wiki. One AtomOWL [1] just is a place to work on the latest RDF model of Atom, and fulfill the requirement that Atom have a model. The Other AtomIsRDF [2] is a place to track the way for

Re: The Atom Format end-game (PICS)??

2005-01-09 Thread Dan Brickley
* Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-09 01:42-0500] Tim Bray wrote: 2. We are close to RSS2 feature-compatibility, we either adopt image enclosure or make a conscious decision not to. There are other bits of RSS2 that should be seriously considered -- even if they aren't widely

Re: arbitrary limitations in Person

2005-01-04 Thread Dan Brickley
* Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-04 07:38-0800] On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:39 AM, Henry Story wrote: I was just looking closely at the atom:Person class [1] and found some pretty arbitrary limitations: - why should a Person only have one e-mail address? - why should a Person only