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Extreme sarcasm alert:"Don't worry though. If you're on the political right, this virus can't hurt you. It must feed on self-righteousness or altruism or something. It only targets ignorant, lunatic leftists who let fear get the better of
Re: Corona Virus: is it the beginning of the end?
Extreme sarcasm alert:"Don't worry though. If you're on the political right, this virus can't hurt you. It must feed on self-righteousness or altruism or something. It only targets ignorant, lunatic leftists who let fear get the better of
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Well, There are new things being discovered about this virus now. Since 2 3 days they publish new studies which makes this Virus even more dangerous.
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lol akman, I am well aquainted with the walls in my home. I have more enjoyable conversation with them lol.In all seriousness though, I find it pointless to continue to respond. I have said everything I can possibly say.
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He absolutely did, yup. And when he was confronted on it, he got mad because reputable news sources told the truth and he wanted it all walked back. He wanted the use of the word "tear gas" taken out because they used a compound that wasn't
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Didn't Trump removed some peaceful protestors outside white House with army, how on earth people are tolorating this.
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Turtlepower, I understood you, don't worry. I'm glad you're wearing a mask at more than just your job. I'm in a position where I make a point to wear a mask in public if I'm out for any length of time, but if I'm, say, just nipping down to
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Hey, people wanted evidence, evidence of why I stood against these regulations, and I have provided that. It is not my problem that it isn't taken seriously, and quite frankly it is none of my concern. You have to do what you feel is best,
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Accman can you maybe get your understanding of virology from learning a bit about how viruses work as a system as opposed to constantly quoting the media, which has a real financial incentive to not cover a story in your best interests?Many
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Eens, I am as a wall because I have rock-solid backing on which to stand. Just today, I saw where the Guardian had reported on a mask manufacturer in Los Angeles that had to close down because at least a hundred of its employees, all of
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Honestly, after what I went through a few months back, not wearing a mask in public would feel like a giant fuck you to the person in my life who thankfully recovered, but was pretty sick there for awhile. I'll clarify that I wear my mask
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Honestly, after what I went through a few months back, not wearing a mask in public would feel like a giant fuck you to the person in my life who thankfully recovered, but was pretty sick there for awhile. I'll clarify that I wear my mask
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Oh my god akman! Talking to you is like talking to a wall honestly. In fact, I think I would probably have better luck with the wall.Imunity is not! a universally scientificly established truth for all diseases. Imunity does not occur to
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Turtlepower, good on you for taking it on the chin, as it were, admitting that wearing a mask in the heat sucks, but explaining that you can still smell things reasonably well. Yeah, I can imagine yawning or whatnot with one on would
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Right, so this topic blew up.First of all, it's not that much more difficult to smell with a mask on. I wear one for 8 hours a day, five days a week, at work, minus the time that I take a lunch break, so let's say 7 hours and 40 minutes.
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EEn's, herd immunity is a proven scientific truth, and we countless instances in history to back it up. I never said it everyone would become immune to it. There are those who already have other conditions that have weakened their immune
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I know, Enes. As I said, I was being ironic.You and I are pretty much in lockstep about all of this. The link you provided, the Quorra one I mean, shows that simplification to life and death is not even near the complete picture, and it's
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Well Jayde, it is overly simplfying it to only boil it down to individuals life and death counts I do admit. But The motivation behind my posting was my belief that simplying it a little, would allow some of the opinion that this many
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Ok all, some responses to the posts here, as I haven't been following this topic lately.Re: hherd emunity.Akman the idea that everyone will have imunity and we all will be fine once we getted hasn't been proven. There have been scientific
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Ok all, some responses to the posts here, as I haven't been following this topic lately.Re: hherd emunity.Akman the idea that everyone will have imunity and we all will be fine once we getted hasn't been proven. There have been scientific
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Ok all, some responses to the posts here, as I haven't been following this topic lately.Re: hherd emunity.Akman the idea that everyone will have imunity and we all will be fine once we getted hasn't been proven. There have been scientific
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But Enes, don't you realize that boiling it down to only life and death makes it easier to ignore and consequently easier to justify just going back to the way it was, dang it?Don't you realize that this truth you shared is awfully
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Here is an answer on Quara for those who truly wonder why we shut everything down and "didn't let everyone die for 1% deaths". I think it touches on some very important points, namely those who survive, but are mamed.
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@ Accman, I personally already knew about this, however this is just the tip of a iceberg. A lot of people sadly, don't see it, but its so obvious, if you open your eyes, that is. Not to go off topic here, but... mainstream media anyone?
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@ Accman, I personally already knew about this, however this is just the tip of a iceberg. A lot of people sadly, don't see it, but its so obvious, if you open your eyes, that is. Not to go off topic here, but... mainstream media anyone?
Re: Corona Virus: is it the beginning of the end?
@ Accman, I personally already knew about this, however this is just the tip of a iceberg. A lot of people sadly, don't see it, but its so obvious, if you open your eyes, that is. Not to go off topic here, but... mainstream media anyone?
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Since this subject of vaccines has come up, here is something that I thought I'd share here for your consideration. There are some compelling points made in this, so that's why I thought I'd drop this here for you so you'd be able to look
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I won't be chomping at the bit for the vaccine the instant it becomes available either. Mistakes happen. Complications will inevitably arise. That said, I'm not in a vulnerable population at the moment, though I may be working with one by
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even if president Trump is the one who signs this thing into legislation, I won't be taking it when it comes out. It will be interesting once a vaccine does come out to see how that's going to be handled.Case in point regarding medicines, I
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keep in mind that Trump said that the vaccine was going to be "fast-tracked" and have "red tape cut out." On one hand, that means it will be to us faster. That is a good thing. However, those prhases also mean "not tested as thoroughly,"
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@ Accman, agree with you on the vaccine point. I, personally, am not gunna get it until we know what's in it. If people are willing to take said vaxine when it comes out... its on them, but I, personally don't trust the higher ups. It has
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Thanks for sharing that link. I did find it interesting, but it didn't really have any information. Neither the article or itself, or the one it links you to, provide any specific details on the findings. Furthermore, the writer of the
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06 … d-19-drugsHave a gander at that link. It's a starting point. And when you're done there, check this out:https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/navar … loroquine/For what it's worth, I'm glad I'm not a
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06 … d-19-drugsHave a gander at that link. It's a starting point.
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Careful Accman, you'll be labeled now as an Anti-vaxer and anti-science and anti-everything! Lol. Because progression trumps caution every time.
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Trump was suggesting the use of Hydroxychloroquine, a different type of formula than what some think he was suggesting. there have been studies on this that show it works quite well. Here are the findings of one that I had come across, this
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He hasn't entirely turned on us and the bill is not law yet. It's got three weeks yet before that happens, and it's entirely possible we end up having it destroyed because we've done that before. Ford has tried stupid shit before and has
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One thing our president did not do is reverse any decisions to allow people to stay in their apartments, or homes that they own, without fear of being evicted. That actually seems to be one area on which our country seems to agree. I
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Lest anyone wonder if I'm only interested in troubles abroad, I'm not.The premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, is someone whose policies I have generally disagreed with. He's center-right on the left-right axis, and used to be referred to as Mini
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Lest anyone wonder if I'm only interested in troubles abroad, I'm not.The premier of Ontario, Doug Ford, is someone whose policies I have generally disagreed with. He's center-right on the left-right axis, and used to be referred to as Mini
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I will keep what you said in mind Bookrage, I just hope and pray that others will do likewise. As I keep saying, there are an awful lot of standards being thrown around from the mask brigade, so that's why I don't take them seriously.
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Impressive Jade. Everything you said in that last post is completely wrong. I can't believe you actually used that conspiracy theorist cop-out again. That is a mighty convenient way to dodge the notion that you could be mistaken, and one
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It's not just America, it's all over the world. Even in a small country like Romania conspiracy theories seem to be gaining ground quickly and more and more people start rebelling against the rules. Yesterday and today we registered the
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you're right about this being a pointless project, but before I go, let me give you guys a basic American civics lesson that some people seem to forget.You are given vast rights in America. However, your rights end where the rights of
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@Accman. People like you are the people that spreads the virus. Why cant you just ware a mask? its that simple. I dont get why americans cant follow this simple rule.
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Guys, I have a solution to this.Ignore Accman, otally and completely. Don't offer help or advice. Don't offer further criticism. Don't offer support if things go badly. He's made his bed, so let's let him lie in it now.He's convinced
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Bookrage, you can't make money forcing people to do anything they do not feel they should be required to do. That's taking decision power out of the individual, and basically forcing them to conform or not be served. That's segregation, and
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@Jayde, A little off-topic, but that CBC link you provided reminded me of when I was a young boy watching Canadian cartoons like Bo on the Go, Arthur, and I think it was called DoodleBops. Gosh the animation styles were difinately something
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well, you said above that running at 100% capacity and such is "making a living." 1. you can still make money requiring masks, in fact, keeping a workforce and consumer base healthy does a lot to foster money-making.2. wearing a mask does
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well, you said above that running at 100% capacity and such is "making a living." 1. you can still make money requiring masks, in fact, keeping a workforce and consumer base healthy does a lot to foster money-making.2. wearing a mask does
Re: Corona Virus: is it the beginning of the end?
well, you said above that running at 100% capacity and such is "making a living." 1. you can still make money requiring masks, in fact, keeping a workforce and consumer base healthy does a lot to foster money-making.2. wearing a mask does
Re: Corona Virus: is it the beginning of the end?
well, you said above that running at 100% capacity and such is "making a living." 1. you can still make money requiring masks, in fact, keeping a workforce and consumer base healthy does a lot to foster money-making.2. wearing a mask does
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Jade, do you hear yourself? You're talking about 1918, and while that was terrible, I'm talking about 2020. I am well aware of what happened in 1918, more so than what they teach our kids about it in schools now since many textbooks don't
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Because that worked so well in 1918's influenza pandemic. And that worked even better back when almost two-thirds of Europe died to the bubonic and pneumonic plagues, right? I ask again: jesus, do you even know what you're saying
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Ph, and Jade, you're no authority on my safety or that of anyone else either. so, no I will not "cut the crap". When I see that the number of COVID-19 deaths matches the number of unborn that we have murdered, over 70,000,000, since that
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That's my point. He died of cancer, and it was marked down as COVID-19. He did not have the virus. I know that this virus is serious, but so is the flu, so is every other disease out there. Restaurant owners want their places running at
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Also, someone who's going through chemo or radiation is in no fit state to fight off that virus in any meaningful way. As stated, hospitals are not great places to be unless you absolutely must go there.Accman, the only relevant piece of
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right now, hospitals aren't a good place to be. I have an elderly friend who is putting off needed reconstructive surgeries to stay out of hospitals even though she's living with a lot of pain.Also, I imagine those who don't look closely at
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I'd like to point out that I did try and verify the political source that Accman gave, but I think I used the wrong query -- I only got news sources I didn't trust, sadly.
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The confederate monuments were mentioned because of the timing of all of this. I think what they may have been getting at is that these rioters weren't social distancing and wearing masks, and people have issues with that because no one
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See, I'm not ignoring your source, Accman. Not entirely, at least. It's out there, so I did look at it. What I read made me start asking a lot of questions, since if the article could be taken on its own, at face value, then it makes a
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Okay, so you're saying that even though to WHO has admitted this stuff you still won't take it seriously. I thought you agreed with the World Health Organization. Well, can't say I didn't try. You'll get nothing more from me on this because
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Masks do work. Sure, they're hot and inconvenient and uncomfortable, but they do work. They are a damn sight better than nothing.Fun fact: lip-reading is said to be between 30-40% accurate at the best of times.Accman, your questions about
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Masks work watch the video below. No one likes wearing them but we have to stay safe. If you don't wear one you're endangering others and that's selfish of you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0zB904Mc
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Sorry. One tweet and a previous article from the same source aren't enough to sell me on this one. And whether this article is true or not, what I said above regarding masks still stands. Taiwan has been a world leader in its pandemic
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That link is not dead. I found out what happened with it. Apparently, when I tried to copy and paste it something went weird. Here it is again, and this time it will work. So, don't jump to any conclusions based on something you didn't see
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The link is dead. And masks are proven to be effective. all you have to do is look at Hong Kong and Taiwan to see that that, among with the other health measures they took, are vastly better landscapes than what we have here in North
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Here is an article that was just published yesterday, and it is quite though provoking. The information in this article is legitimate, and is also another reason why I, and many, many others, will not wear
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@694, not sure where you are located, but the article I posted earlier is from Canada. Over here, especially in Quebec,they do admit that they've been counting probable cases as positive ones. And Hong Kong and Taiwan are both examples of
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@694, that makes sense. Sort of. What about notes 1 and 5 of tables I and II over here (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm)? For reference, note 1 says "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code
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@694, that makes sense. Sort of. What about notes 1 and 5 of tables I and II over here (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm)? For reference, ntoe 1 says "Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code
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actually, that article isn't right, we've only reported cases where the person was already confirmed to have the virus at the time of death. As for whether the virus killed them, that is more of a grey area I admit, however, it is almost
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Bookrage, you do make some good points as well. However, it is the idea of it. When the New England Journal of Medicine has clearly stated they are not ineffective, or have very little effect in actually keeping this thing from spreading, I
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That's something I definitely don't like about the COVID death reports -- that we consider "probable" cases and not actually "confirmed" cases (only). We consider everyone in an area infected with it if only a single person has it and they
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That's something I definitely don't like about the COVID death reports -- that we consider "probable" cases and not actually "confirmed" cases (only). We consider everyone in an area infected with it if only a single person has it and they
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Consider it this way regarding the masks and social distancing. What are you losing in wearing a mask? very little. You might not be showing your face, masks can be uncomfortable, and if you are smart, you might have to do a little more
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Not ready to acceptthis as gospel, but there are certainly some questions.. and it's definitely something to hink about. And one of the reasons I'm not just going to unqestioningly accept the word of every expert I hear
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I, and my family, did get the first check back in April, and there's supposed to be a second one coming either this month or in August. But, that only gets you so far. I tried for unemployment, but, like over a million other residents in my
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@Accman, I think it will go into next year but it doesn't bother me because I have tuns of podcasts, youtube videos, fan fiction, things like that.You could tgry reading or listening to stuff you either want to or said you'd get around to
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You do make some good points there Jade. I had considered the possibility that things would start up again regarding the music. It's just the not knowing wen, and having something to do during that time. This not working business is for the
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Accman, I have a ton of sympathy for someone in your position, at least where it comes to frustration regarding your chosen career. Thank you for disclosing that, by the way; it helps me understand, in part, why you feel the way you do.What
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I was a professional musician, and most of my shows were canceled by those who booked them when this all started, even slightly before it actually and that's because people were becoming afraid right out of the starting gate. I should, as I
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Accman, I've asked this before. How did you actually straight-up lose your career? I can understand being laid off for the foreseeable future, but I'm not sure why a career you once had is now completely nonviable, unless that career was
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@682, medical systems are already overwhelmed, good sir.
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If people had complied better, then everything would have been brought to a dead stop, so no that wouldn't have helped anything. I understand your concern, respect it even. However, these numbers, and the percentages, do not lie. We have to
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Those numbers are approximately what I've been working with. Ethin, thank you for posting them, as they give some lovely perspective.If all you want to do is look at the population of the world and say "well, it's a tiny tiny number that's
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Ethin, thanks for explaining that. I had seen that when I ran the one calculation, and I didn't think I was doing something correctly as I had never seen that before.
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Its scientific notation. If you see the number 5.449283913e-6, it actually means 0.05449283913.
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Your number, 1e-4, means the 1 is four digits the other way, so 1e-4 = 0.0001. To be completely accurate, the e-4 means multiply by 10^-4 or 1/10^4 or . ooo1 That notation is a convenience for writing and comparing very large, or in
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One question. What's with the E-4?
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it makes sense to me because as much as I don't like it; I don't want to get fined.
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okay guys. I said I would provide backup for why I come at this the way that I do, and I will do that here.Keep in mind, I am not primarily looking at just the number of cases here, but I am looking at them in light of the population as a
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All right, so about these claims. The posetivity rates of many of these tests is really low, certainly not enough to justify slowing down testing. If I had a false posetive test, and still isolated, I wouldn't regret that, and I would
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@JayJay, I agree. cooking a nice home made meel is tuns better than KFC and fast food places.
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Hmm. @Accman, our Prime Minister specifically said when he was closing down our stores, that aside from stopping the spread of the virus, but its just better for us to cook at home. Prepare a nice home made dinner for yu family instead of
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@665, I agree with JJ.I don't think the entire world will shut down, but places like the UK and the US will be closed for a while.I hear that the UK is allowing travel to other countries, probably bassed in Europe, but I don't know how long
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665, I wouldn't be at all surprised. Now, the question is how does one define essential. I mean, here in Pennsylvania we've had places like barber shops shut down, but liquor stores are open. I think we're all familiar with the _expression_
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@Accman, I keep forgeting america is a lot hotter than the UK.I take back what I said, if there's no cases in your area and you follow the, what is it, 5 feet rule, then go for it, just remember some places might make you ware a mask.OH
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@665, I dont think the world will shutdown, just the major powers, and more badly hit nations. There are stil many places that are chugging along nicely, and haven't reported cases in weeks.666. Mark of the beast damn it! Its to the end of
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Jade, you're the one who was taking away from the point. All I was illustrating was that there are, in fact, other causes of death that we need to concerned that might just, in fact, be as important as, if not more important, than this
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