Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Dark and all.At long last, the Steam client finally! has some accessibility in the ui of the games library. After a few laps around the ui of the beta I can confirm that the beta works without the use of ocr. You'll still need your NVDA mouse

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! The stable client update that came out today has no accessibility changes, but the beta does. Unfortunately, to join the beta, you need to have sighted help, there's no two ways about it. Either that or good luck with ocr. Because the only way to turn

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! The stable client update that came out today has no accessibility changes, but the beat does. Unfortunately, to join the beta, you need to have sighted help, there's no two ways about it. Either that or good luck with ocr. Because the only way to turn

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! the beta is out. the library is now accessible, like the friends list. it gets a little bit to get used to it, but it's fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462512/#p462512 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Regarding all this What's the news in regards to the Steam client update that might be coming this week? I am really hoping there'll be some accessibility included, although I am also not getting my expectations *too high*. URL:

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! 3 GB is not that bad. I have STeam installed on my laptop with 2 GB and it's running fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462374/#p462374 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Actually Liren mentioned some of the same problems in terms of the interface. I've not tried windows up arrow though so I'll give that a go and see if it improves the ocr, though again as I'm at my parents on my laptop I'll have to wait until

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! There is something going on with dark's steam and i can't figure out what.I have a clean steam UI on OCR and i can do a lot of things with the client, but dark's steam client is being shown super weird on his computer for some reason?Does anyone know

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! That should be it. Windows+up arrow will usually fullscreen your window to provide the best OCR results. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462341/#p462341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Aaron, sorry, my mistake.  the actual command on the shortcut (which I Copied from Pitermach's guide), is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe" -no-dwrite -login darkthetenor my steam password.I did double check this to make sure it was correct,

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Aaron, sorry, my mistake the actual command on the shortcut (which I Copied from Pitermach's guide), is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe" -no-dwrite -login darkthetenor my steam password.I did double check this to make sure it was correct,

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Hi,@Dark I noticed in one of your previous posts, you said that you'd inputted a command called no-twrite, with a t. Just a heads up, I'm wondering if this could be the problem, because the t is supposed to be a d, as in direct write, so it could be a

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I agree with Jack here,, we're increasingly moving away from individual ownership and into centralised, heavily controlled  distribution schemes instead, with music, films, and of course with games, and sadly if that means accessibility goes bye bye

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Plus the problem with itch.io is there's no drm. Most reasonable developers would not take well to intrusive drm, but developers obviously don't want their game pirated, and unfortunately while morally there is or should be a lot standing in the way

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! It also doesn't hurt that again, it's basically the PSN/XBL of PC... friends, groups, achievements... it does basically everything you could want while playing. Hence why so many developers, both indie and big use it. URL:

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Dark: Sadly, it's hard to get in touch with them. I've tried nearly everything, including petitions so We'll see what will happen. The Steam is just the best way to distribute games on Steam so I am not surprised most of the devs are doing that in

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! just what I'd expect from a bunch of lazy bastards who do not listen to comments, do not make games themselves and just prophet from the work of others. I am only sorry that so many good  indi devs and their players are using this piece of corporate

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! just what I'd expect from a bunch of lazy bastards who do not listen to comments, do not make games themselves and just prophet from the work of others. I am only sorry that so many good  indi devs and their players are using this piece of corporate

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! They're a bit hard to get into, but if you accidentally run into the chat or store windows of the steam client itself. You'll have an accessible layout that looks similar to the Steam website. This is, in theory, how everything should be. If Part of

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Lirin I've never seen the shop or chat window, just the list of games as I described since I cannot get beyond that. Of course the website itself is accessible, which is a good thing. @Jack, I have autologin set with the notewrite command for Steam.

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Dark: I've tried launching games directly via the executables. You'll need to at least interact with the Steam interface to the point of logging in which you already are at this point, because even with that method the games call on SteamAPI.dll to

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I heard that next tuesday there will be a huge update to the client. hope the client will be more accessible with that update that will be released. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462065/#p462065 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Well, I am using Steam client for downloading games without using screen review or chatting with friends / activating keys if I am purchasing something from other sources. The shop window in Steam is accessible, as it is changing the layout to the

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Lirin, glad someone else is having a similar interface  problem. As I said when the list of games shows up I can navigate with screen review and hit enter on the games to play them, but I get no other functions at all from the client window,

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @dark: Yeah, sequence storm OST is an item in your library so this is how you launched a player by hitting on it enter.Your window looks as it should. Sadly if there games in your library you will see a mess, as there mixed stuff like games here and

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Jack, one of the problems I have with the client, is I see absolutely nothing in the steam window whether I use screen review or ocr. I always see Darkthetenor (my steam username), at the top, a couple of random numbers, then the names of games,

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @Jack, one of the problems I have with the client, is I see absolutely nothing in the steam window whether I use screen review or ocr. I always see Darkthetenor (my steam username), at the top, a couple of random numbers, then the names of games,

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! You can also manually create a shortcut with this line, just create a shortcut from your desktopsteam://rungameid/gameidWhere gameid can be found by going to the game's store page, and noting the number in the URL. URL:

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! 1. Is your NVDA running on the latest stable release, that being 2019.2? And how about your Windows 10 revision? Not sure if that has any effect on Steam, but it's always worth checking.2. If you end up not getting a desktop shortcut during

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! To answer the comments, yes I'm using NVdA, however the window is simply not reading correctly. In the end I sat down and used my vision.  to check when the window is changing. It seems that while the window changes, NvdA is not recognising even with

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I'll possibly step on darks tail with that, but have you ever considered, in your ruffing, puffing, crying, screaming and stomping on the flore that it is not steam who is screwing up your experience instead this beeing you? I don't say that's the

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! That'd be great idea to check if the Steam will react the same on the other machine, maybe this laptop for example as your prooblems are really strange and new for me.Steam is usable for sure, you can do everything just using a client and when you'll

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I'm currently at my  parents on my laptop, which I don't  intend to install steam on, so I'll try the thing again this weekend. Unfortunately, the problems I'm having I'm fairly sure are  due to inaccessibility, since generally  inconsistency with

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! IInteresting. I never heard about this kind of problems. Interesting fact is Steam bootstrapper is the name of the main steam process. I am installing games from my Steam client directly as it is faster and doable. You can navigate in the main steam

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @juan reina: The problem though is it's still indirectly a crack if that's what you were doing. It's one thing to, say, strip drm from your own purchased ebooks and software and the like, but to pass it around is a no go.Ideally, the idea is to avoid

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! to Liam, hey, I just wanted to help, and he already payed for the game, and he's stil having issues when downloading, I'm not being A leegalist, i'm just helping cuz he wanted to play the game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/461274/#p461274

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! With the -no-dwrite switch enabled in your Steam properties, you should be able to use nvda with windows 10 ocr to locate the next or finish buttons. If not, just keep hitting enter until the window disappears.Actually, the situation revolving around

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Steam is the PC equivalent of the play station network... enough said. That's why people, both developers and gamers use it. If all of us VI gamers stopped using it, the actual impact would be less than nothing.It is strange though that Dark's having

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Steam is the PC equivalent of the play station network... enough said. That's why people, both developers and gamers use it. If all of us VI gamers stopped using it, the actual impact would be less than nothing. URL:

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Yes, Valve takes a cut, and this is no secret. Valve has to live from something too. Oh and accessibilitywise I really can't complain. The website, where you can buy your games and initiate downloads works perfectly, OCR is not needed anymore for the

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I completely agree with Dark in post 10. Has anyone reached out to the developer(s) of Blind Legend to see if the game could be sold on the website? If Valve is unwilling to improve the accessibility of the Steam system, I say we move on. I never

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I completely agree with Dark in post 10. Has anyone reached out to the developer(s) of Blind Legend to see if the game could be sold on the website? If Valve is unwilling to improve the accessibility of the Steam system, I say we move on. I never

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Completely agreed with Dark in post 10. Has anyone reached out to the developer(s) of Blind Legend to see if the game could be sold on the website? If Valve is unwilling to improve the accessibility of the Steam system, I say we move on. I never liked

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Games do not take long to download at all. I downloaded GTA V, which is something like 60GB in just under 3 hours. Smaller games download immediately. It will pump them as fast as your net can pull down. URL:

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Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! I saw no finish or next buttons. I click on "play now" on the steam website,or on the name in the crappy window, and another window opens with the name a blind legend and all the numbers called steam bootstrapper, there are no buttons on that window

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Hi,@Dark I am not sure what the Steam bootstrapper is, I haven't come across that.the difference between steam and a regular installer is you actually do not need to keep that window open, but you have to go through it until it says finish. Clicking

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @dark, before steam begin to download the game, did you keep pressing enter at the screen that says disc space required and such? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/461117/#p461117 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! From the bootstrapper window I always have to click the next button first before download begins. Then the window closes and the download works normally. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/461107/#p461107 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! From the bootstrapper window I always have to click next first before download begins. Then the window closes and the download works normally. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/461107/#p461107 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Okay its officially been going now for  another three hours, which means its been running for six hours in total and still no game! honestly it'd be quicker and easier to download on a dile up connection than use this useless shoddily designed  piece

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Hi hanif, in the notification area  the button just says "steam" with no numbers next to it unfortunately, I did check. Does this mean this shitty program isn't actually downloading my game at all despite the numbers changing on the window? URL:

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Moderation:I'd like to make something clear. We take a harsh stance towards anyone trying to pirate audio games especially. What people do in private messages is their own business until it is brought to our attention. We as forum staff are not about

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse!

Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! @dark, the numbers that NVDA detects when you want to install the game is the disc space required for the game to be downloaded to your system and steam needs to allocate it. to check the progress of the download, you can do it via the system tray

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Re: Steam is still a pain in the arse! Dark, I sent you A PM. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/461078/#p461078 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector