Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Re: being taught skills, I think that's just been slacking all around the board, and we've had people getting out of college with no idea how to take care of themselves or their belongings / home / etc. I almost feel like being blind is an advantage, when th

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I'd also like to believe that most feminists are reasonable people,  but third wave (or what some are calling fourth wave) feminism is mainly online, so all those one sided posts where men get raked over the coals as a hole for everything with no real responsib

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men yeah but third wave (or what some are calling fourth wave) feminism is mainly online, so all those one sided posts where men get raked over the coals as a hole for everything with no real responsibility given to women getting hundreds or thousands of likes don't gi

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men yeah but third wave (or what some are calling fourth wave) feminism is mainly online, so all those one sided posts where men get raked over the coals as a hole for everything with no real responsibility given to women getting hundreds or thousands of likes don't gi

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men yeah but third wave (or what some are calling fourth wave) feminism is mainly online, so all those one sided posts where men get raked over the coals as a hole for everything with no real responsibility given to women getting hundreds or thousands of likes don't gi

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Vazbol via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men A society is formed by everyone, so it takes everyone to resolve a societal problem.   A bit of a simple concept, but many seem to just ignore this idea.        Such as the wage gap issue, especially with men and women.  Highlighting the issue of differing pay between

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Most feminists - the ones representative of the movement as a whole - will not scream at men about this issue. The closest they come is to say that it is just as much up to men to fix this as it is up to women. And I agree completely. We men should ask where help is

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ha, I see what you did their Nocternus, two (other) children.Yeah completely agree about the need to be constantly providing independent of any personal considerations being an issue, but it doesn't help when many women are just totally unwilling to teach a man h

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ha, I see what you did their Nocternus, two (other) children.Yeah completely agree about the need to be constantly providing independent of any personal considerations being an issue, but it doesn't help when many women are just totally unwilling to teach a man h

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ha, I see what you did their Nocternus, two (other) children.Yeah totally agree, but it doesn't help when many women are just totally unwilling to teach a man how to even do these things. Allot of young guys have to just learn it on their own when they move out, be

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men @29 Being active isn't really the issue, that's fine, nothing wrong with that, and I agree with you that people who have worked all their lives just can't stop without suffering for it, usually leading to a rapid decline followed by death. But this is dif

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Think I agree with Jade on this one for the most part, which is why I do most of the household chores.  That's not to say my wife doesn't help, but in a contest of strength versus inteligence, I'm strong, she's smart.  It only makes sense that I s

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I'm reminded of Ernest Hemingway explaining his eventual suicide by saying that being alive without being able to enjoy it, not because of civilization, but because of biology, wasn't worth it. The old people I've known who did relax in their later

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men See? This is a legitimate issue, and while I'm not going to relate it to feminimm or perceived gender-based weakness or shortcoming or whatnot, you're damn right it's a problem. My mom does the same thing. Go go go, and she's fifty-eight. She's

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Exactly, and it sucks to watch them, it sucks to see them damaging themselves like that, we've done it to them collectively, and they don't even realize its being done. They're almost hypnotized to be blind to it, but you see it. My dad's wife

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men My mom!But she won't stop it!  We've all tried telling her to back off and go take a break, but she, actually, gets, offended! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405584/#p405584 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-guc

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men In a way, it weeds out the incapable ones. You have situations where women end up being cops because they have something to prove, but really, they're not suited to it. Why, because they're petite little 5 foot tall skinny pretty faced women. Someone like that

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Hmm yeah allot of feminists seem to understand the wage gap wrong then. They take it to mean that a woman equal in every way is paid less and get outraged, when they should be looking more inward at this point and using that anger on more productive efforts like teaching

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men The wage gap is shrinking and becoming less of an issue, but it still exists in some circles. By no means am I saying that if you're female, you are guaranteed to be paid less than a male colleague at the exact same level as you. What I'm saying is that women

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : magurp244 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I've seen a few conversations about sexism with some corporations from women, them being turned down for lucrative job applications or promotions because they "wouldn't be a good fit", which really may have been a blessing in disguise. Part of

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Apparently, women don't ask for raises as much as men do. So, uh, maybe those outreach programs to schools need to encourage women to ask for raises more.Though, tbh, I'd never have thought of asking for a raise as an essential part of the process, either. It&

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Honestly the wage gap has always confused me, and seems like a pretty inaccurate thing when applied to the entire nation anyway.The only sources I see having done recent studies on it are always organizations or schools based around women's rights, and tend to be in

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Honestly the wage gap has always confused me, and seems like a pretty inaccurate thing when applied to the entire nation anyway.The only sources I see having done recent studies on it are always organizations or schools based around women's rights, and tend to be in

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I'm lost. The subject has become nebulous oppression-related soup.I remember a conversation I had with my maternal grandmother, like, 20-something years ago. My mother had, at one point, declared an intention to keep having children until at least one was a girl. A

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men If and when you analyze my previous post, here's a really great question to ask yourself:So you say there need to be winners and losers. Fine, okay. Social stratification. Let's allow it.So why is the proportion of "losers" so often skewed toward peop

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men If and when you analyze my previous post, here's a really great question to ask yourself:So you say there need to be winners and losers. Fine, okay. Social stratification. Let's allow it.So why is the proportion of "losers" so often skewed toward peop

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Being a professional athlete takes a ton of physical aptitude, and I can respect the people who devote their lives to it even if I don't wholly understand the appeal. I like sports to some extent (baseball and hockey, in that order), but I'm not a rabid spo

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I've never heard of it either. I really, really hope I doesn't get too popular (I like it when evolution does all of that for me, makes it more of a surprise). If we start selecting the genders of our children, it'll progress to us fully bio-engineering o

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Here's some reading for those of you who don't want to take my word for it. Both links will lead you to further reading, if you want to. I'll summarize really quickly below the links.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684https://web.stanford.edu

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Women are often characterized as being more emotionally aware, or more manipulative if you like. This is beneficial as well as troublesome, however. It means that they often negotiate a little better, and try to seek nonviolent and nonaggressive solutions to problems

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Yeah, I'm working on that knee jerk reaction too, thanks to too much anti SJW fervor that was starting to turn me into a judgemental asshole.But I mean it's not entirely unreasonable to be more skeptical at first when it's someone famous, especially if th

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Yeah, I'm working on that knee jerk reaction too, thanks to too much anti SJW fervor that was starting to turn me into a judgemental asshole.But I mean it's not entirely unreasonable to be more skeptical at first when it's someone famous, especially if th

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Yeah, I'm working on that knee jerk reaction too, thanks to too much anti SJW fervor that was starting to turn me into a judgemental asshole.But I mean it's not entirely unreasonable to be more skeptical at first when it's someone famous, especially if th

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men This article seems pretty biased, and while I'm torn on weather being able to choose your baby's sex is a thing we should be doing, I just don't see this becoming an issue any time soon. Something to look out for maybe but the end of men is a clickbait

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men This article seems pretty biased, and while I'm torn on weather being able to choose your baby's sex is a thing we should be doing, I just don't see this becoming an issue any time soon. Something to look out for maybe but the end of men is a clickbait

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Yeah, I'm working on that knee jerk reaction too, thanks to too much anti SJW fervor that was starting to turn me into an unreasonable asshole.Women are, in fact, generally better at manipulating, the communications centers of their brains are bigger and more uti

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Women are, in fact, generally better at manipulating, the communications centers of their brains are bigger and more utilized and the evolutionary response from men is to protect them while that of women is to group together, so this makes perfect sense and is pretty

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ethin:What I'm trying to tell you is that the trend you are attempting to highlight is nowhere near as bad as it looks. Remember that when you do hear of women lying to tarnish a man's reputation, it's going to be broadcast in such a way as to make it a b

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Called it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405403/#p405403 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men So its OK for women to wield the power to literally ruin lives, not just professional lives, but lives. Because well, they technically made lynching illegal, but it still happens. Not with rope, but with dirty stares, shouting and yelling, and campaigns against the

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men @jade, and that is the problem. I think one of the major reasons we get defensive when a woman claims she got raped or sexually abused is because there have been too many instances where women have used that claim to utterly and completely destroy peoples lives. Even now

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ironcross, I didn't say they can't be. What I said is that this is not a trait that we should be using for the sake of making an argument. Women can also be serial killers. They can also be saintly. They can also be sexually attracted to fish. They can also b

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Ironcross, I didn't say they can't be. What I said is that this is not a trait that we should be using for the sake of making an argument. Women can also be serial killers. They can also be saintly. They can also be sexually attracted to fish. They can also b

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men @5 You see only what you want to see, like the rider who puts blinders on his horse to get it across a bridge it would never cross otherwise. If you side with the feminists (only the worst of whom I take issue with), then you must think men are domineering, brutish

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Just to be clear here, I blame only those who truly earn it. If you are lying about the harm someone has done to you, then I blame you to some extent. If you are perpetuating violence or myths about violence, then again, I blame you to some extent. Otherwise, I'm

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men @4/5: the assaults vs false accusation argument has never, ever, gone anywhere productive, in my experience. Both sides always talk past each other, the stats are a mess that can be framed in any number of ways, and if really wanted to continue the list of problems with

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Hm.I'm bad at engaging with broad-scale facts and stats. Let's play the Anecdote game instead, even though any points that might come of it are much, much weaker:Re: college. Primary and secondary education, on reflection, were fairly androgynous, as gender s

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Couple of things here:1. This isn't the end of men.2. Ironcross, this bull about women being more manipulative is shortsighted, as you can't very well substitute your own experiences for global trends. if you'd like to somehow demonstrate and then valida

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I'm not sure how to respond to this exactly. I don't trust the article 100%, it seems a bit skewed towards the author's perspective. I am glad women are doing well for themselves, and yeah I get the whole thing about men failing to adapt could be an issue

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men I'm not sure how to respond to this exactly. I don't trust the article 100%, it seems a bit skewed towards the author's perspective. I am glad women are doing well for themselves, and yeah I get the whole thing about men failing to adapt could be an issue

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men This article seems overly focused on women. This is not "the end of men", as you put it. Just goes to show that people don't analyze when they read "research papers" like these. And, honestly, I don't really get the point of it. It does

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men This article seems overly focused on women. This is not "the end of men", as you put it. Just goes to show that people don't analyze when they read "research papers" like these. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/405234/#p405234 -- Aud

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Just goes to show, if something's snappily written and has interesting content, there's no such thing as a too-long post. As for the article itself: I'm not sure what to make of it. It was fascinating, and doubtless has truth in it, but I don't k

Re: The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: The End of Men Just goes to show, if something's snappily written and has interesting content, there's no such thing as a too-long post. As for the article itself: I'm not sure what to make of it. It was fascinating, and doubtless has truth in it, but I don't k

The End of Men

2019-01-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : hurstseth405 via Audiogames-reflector
The End of Men Pretty interesting Article.Earlier this year, women became the majority of the workforce for the first time in U.S. history. Most managers are now women too. And for every two men who get a college degree this year, three women will do the same. For years, women’s progress