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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? @Sito, Wheel of time is indeed good, my lady is a massiveJordan fan and actually I bought her a sterling silver Aise Sidai ring and green Aja pendent for christmas last year. Actually that is amusing in itself since we've had arguements about what Aja she is, but I'm fairly sure she's a green, I bought her a green pendent (her personality is far more that of a green despite her liking the idea of healing). I will say the series slumps in the middle somewhat, but if you can persist through books 6-10, it picks up at book 11 big time and the ending is great.I will confess I rather gave up on spy fiction as a teenager, I began to get far too sick of cardboard characters, ham fisted political messages and very excessive jingoism, sadly more often than not American jingoism to want to dive into that sort of thing too much. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358937#p358937 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? If you like that sort of stuff, you might want to look into either "Superbolan" or "Stonyman Farm." They are pretty run of the mill but are entertaining if you like spy/black ops stuff. Superbolan is basically a super-spy that acts on his own on solo missions given by Stonyman (a farm that's really a Secret US spy base) where Stonyman is stories about tactical teams sent out from there. There's a lot of war on Terror ideology in there and if you don't like that, it might be a snag. But on the plus side, the author doesn't engage in a lot of racial stereotyping, frequently putting people of ethnic minorities or foreign countries outside of Europe in positive heroic roles. Often his villains are white upper-class rich Americans, or if they are foreign such as being Middle-Eastern, he makes sure to point out through the narrative that they are exceptions to the rule. I'd say more often than not with named characters, Middle Eastern characters are on the good side.If you want something funnier along those lines, go for "the Executioner." The books were mostly written in the 70s and 80s but the series was revived in the 2000s and I think might have either been revived again or simply kept going. The story is about Rimo Williams, a cop who is whisked away from a prison after a fake execution and recruited by the government to be trained by a North Korean assassin (who is obsessed with US soap operas.) to fight threats to the US. The stories are pretty farcical, with enemies including Soviet spies trying to recruit an army from a set of dim-witted UFo Enthusiasts, and other equally silly set-ups. It parodies things like the Rubix cube, conspiracy theories, telephone operators, and lots of other stuff that is profoundly 70s and 80s though a lot of it though I'm too young to have lived it still rings as funny. However, some of the humor is not exactly Politically correct, with a couple parodies of feminism and although Chiun (the North Korean Assassin) is a fully developed character with as complex and unique a personality as anyone in the series, it sometimes slips into ancient Asian master stereotyping. On the other hand, it parodies super-spy thrillers incredibly, with Remo often reaching feats of superhuman abilities that are so outlandish that they become funny from being so over-the-top. There is some B-movie version of the first book or at least the basic idea of the series called something like "Remo Williams: the adventure begins" (I know for certain "Remo Williams" is in the title.) but I haven't seen the film. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358922#p358922 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? let me also post my recently-read boks here:I've recently completed the first 3 books of the Sigma Force series. It's basically about an organization that tries to bring groups of terrorists to justice. The thing is that this series is centered around mythical events or objects. for example in the third book you have a terrorist group which tries to recreate an experiment done by hitler and they want to create some kind of super soldier.I like this series because it is very well written and has good characters. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358920#p358920 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? hey there. wel. let's see which books i've read recently and which id o likei'm actually reading robert jordan's books. they are great so far, i'm on the third book of the wheel of time.before that i was reading brent week's lightbringer saga which is pretty good. the plot is good although some thigns doesn't make sence. There are 4 books out now and he's still writing so there'll be another out next yeari've also read the vinse flyn's mitch rap serie. That's about a man called mitch rap who becomes a CIA assasin and kills terrorist. there are 16 books out and although some of them are rather short it's over all a very good serie.for anyone who wants a long storry you should go and read raymond e feist's riftwar saga. that one very good and ther eare over 5 series that continues the storry over time to new characters etc. really worth looking in too since they are amazing and you got a long storry to follow. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358917#p358917 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? I don't actually mind utilitarianism as much, indeed my tutor is a fan of it himself, albeit more the mill style utilitarianism based on liberty rather than the strict benthem formulation posited by idiots like Peter Singer. I actually thought Mill had a very good point when he simply noted that if the minority are always under threat of sacrifice to the majority, that makes everyone worse off . These days I confess I've grown a little too synical both about the process of academic philosophy the progression of moral argument, and the general relation of power in the world and how moral changes actually occur in human society to have much truck with theoretical ethics anymore.I used to be a fan of a system I referred to as "perception empathy" which was probably similar to the idea of care ethics with a general utilitarian sentiment, but these days I'm no longer convinced either humans, or human society, or indeed the process of philosophical enquiry itself would do much good, one reason why I'm so eager to get rid of this bloody anoying thesis so that I can do something else, -like write fiction! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358898#p358898 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? sounds cool, not going to go too off-topic but I'm actually on my own trying to bring certain aspects of care ethics and the categorical imparitive within Rule utilitarianism.Knowing what you do and what I've experienced talking to people, you probably have rated me a step down for being a utilitarian, because it has huge problems, but from my own view of what Ethics is for, it suits my own viewpoint best. I think bringing in certain aspects of the categorical imperative and care ethics as guidelines for forming rules and a definition of utility will reduce some of the pitfalls in rule utilitarianism as a whole, but good to see another philosopher here. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358837#p358837 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? I'm (hopefully), just finishing a phd in philosophy following a masters and a degree, albeit I want to do something else when finished. Agreed on reading people you disagree with, that was why I myself have read so much nietzsche, though I only dipped in and out of Cant that was when I was taking my degree and had a lot of essays on ethics to write . Maybe I will go back to it at some point, but right now I'm sort of wanting to do something else with my life once I've got the PHd out of the way and hopefully they don't screw up my marking again like they did last time around. Oh and the PHd involves writing a new definition of disability if you were wondering. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358832#p358832 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? I got a philosophy degree actually and I specialize in ethics. I don't get Kant's limitations he tries to put on certain questions and although I'm a huge fan of ethics, I don't think Kant's morality works in the real world. However, I am very much an advocate of reading people you disagree with. So to paraphrase Niezche here, "Never have I read something and found with every sentence, no, no, no, no!" I think there is some validity to wanting to read folks you disagree with. It helps you formulate your own stance and view it more critically, and also helps you prepare counterarguments against ways of thinking you disagree with.I admittedly pay for my books, and btw I also have the complete works of Karl Marx from the same series, but the price is so negigeable for such convenience with easy navigation, scholarly commentary, good organization, and included criticisms, biographies, and in many cases, personal correspondence, I think the $1.40 I paid for this was worth it. I get everything Kant wrote in a single volume for peanuts and I've found that the organization, navigation, and completeness of the collections are definitely worth it. And I read the entire thing from front to back before moving onto another book, so it keeps me occupied for quite some time. I imagine I won't be done with Kant for several weeks. I also enjoy the commentary in the beginning of each source, the knowledge I'm getting a good translation (I've read Kant in his original German back in college but no longer have the works as I speak German and A lot of those online sources aren't great on that.) and also having everything in one place. as I use my fire despite everything it can do for reading only. I don't read on my computer if I can help it, for some reason the kindle is easier, faster, and more comfortable, though I also have issues because I don't have the foreign voices for JAWS to read in other languages coherently or know how to adjust the speech reading language on the kindle if I wanted to read German books.Also, I'm not reading Kant for school right now but for my own personal enrichment. I can find almost any subject interesting, as I've even bought extensive chemistry books for my own personal amusement. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358805#p358805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Hmmm Bookrage, you actually paid! for the works of Kant? That is sort of nuts given that everywhere from wikisource to project gutenberg has them freely available online, I used such things a lot throughout my degree whenever I had to read Kant, Descartes, Locke, Hume, even Rawls and Marks, not to mention any of the griek philosophers. Cant I am afraid I am no fan of. From his aesthetics to his ethics he just seems a super cold fish with an over inflated idea of human reason general, and his own reason in particular, hell any man whom other people used to set their watches by because he always took a walk at precisely! the same time every day doesn't seem to be someone in a good position to comment on any sort of basic human virtue or pleasure at all, since I doubt he's got experience of much . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358799#p358799 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? currently guys, I'm reading the complete collected works of Immanuel Kant. He was a late 18th-century German philosopher. Got it on my kindle from the Delphi collected works series. Very good series if you like the classics as they are dirt cheap (usually costing less than 3 united states dollars at the most) for entire collections of works by authors. They have a main series, I think they are on Series nine now, an ancient series which is Greek and Roman stuff, an artist series, and recently they started a master composer series with links that are easily accessible on a kindle fire.Plus every single one of their books is text-to-speech enabled. They might be running low on major authors, but in the U.S. theoretically a lot of authors go public domain next year as the line that seperates copyright from public domain will probably finally move unless congress changes the law again. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358794#p358794 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Well Darth my lady would totally agree with you about Peter and gale, particularly because she was always! a fan of Peter and got royally annoyed at Catness for hovering between the two, and only finally! seeing the truth at the end. It wasn't so much about Gale killing Prim though, it was more Gale's attitude, since Gale was quite prepared to go in for mass destruction, and it was exactly that sort of calous thinking that got Catness sister killed, which finally! clued her in to the fact that Peter was actually a nice guy, something which my lady was cursing her for not! getting all the way through the trilogy .Actually, the Ptsd Catness experiences is pretty accurate. it doesn't mean multiple personalities, just occasionally feeling or experiencing things from the past without warning, actually it was the fact that the books finally ended with Catness as definitely scarred that was for me a pluss. I thought though that it was pretty obvious why she killed Coin and had nothing to do with instability, basically it was the fact that Coin was clearly going down the same power hungry path as Snow had already done, and when its suggested to start a new hunger games with the capital's people as participants Catness saw enough was enough, after all Catness had been used as a symbol, both for the revolution generally and for Coin's rise to power. I actually liked Catness as a character myself, and the fact that Colins didn't go down the path of least resistance with that sort of plot and break out that hory old cliche "sometimes you must kill to survive!" but started from the other way up and began! with someone who was quite prepared to kill to survive and then only showed what it her as time went on. While I did have problems with the series, they were mainly to do with the way the plot was constructed with the second and third books devolving more into interconnected scenes without as much progression between them and a lot of excuses for action as opposed to the very strong direction of the first book, but character, and especially Catness was something I thought Colins did well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358772#p358772 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? @dark, one of my problems with catness... I think that’s how it’s spelled, is her a, randomly flipping out and remembering stuff from her past, she seemed pretty close to the edge after the first book. B, she seemed to kind of toy with Peter and Gail, basically acting like she loved both of them until the end when she thaught gale killed her sister, or something, that ending kind of confused me. C, she killed coin, I mean, why? She voted for the hungergames to continue, and then did that? Split personality disorder, anyone? And those are just a few problems I have with her.With all that said, the fact the narrator sounded like she was drunk and high probably made things sound worse than they actually were. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358715#p358715 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? @Flacus Yep, agreed about King, though even at his good moments he still has issues, for example he often uses profane language or explicit descriptions not so much to further the story, but more because he's king and just does that, I also notice that a lot of his so called "good" characters are randomly occasional arse holes too, plus in at least some of his books he does have a tendency to make all his female characters "wet tissues" as my lady put it, ie, women who spend most of their time crying. Actually its the gender thing and the characters being randomly arsy which is taking away from The sTand for me at the moment, since to have Stue redman point out to Harald that there is no need to rape women if a man can use his hand, this after noting that "there are some girls you can own and this probably wasn't one" doesn't make me exactly like Stue that much despite the fact he's supposed to be this super nice guy. ditto with knick decideding to sleep with a female psychopath the instant he meets her basically for no reason whatsoever, -its like the random scene in the mist where the main character sleeps with someone for no reason. Then again there is so much good stuff, description, atmosphere, and actually characters who are likable when they aren't! being arse holes or fantassising about women's breasts that this is quite a shame. --- @Darth vader why did you hate Catniss in the Hunger games/ I confess I was never a fan of the Percy jackson books. They were fun, seeing Crusty's bed emporium" and depicting hephaestus as a greasy mechanic, indeed in general I loved the repurposing of griek myths, however I just got totally sick of Percy himself being a real arse, celestial bronze used to basically kidify all of the fights and make things lack any sort of real tention, everyone saying how great he was, the attempt to write an intelligent character by basically just have her talk about architecture and above all the very very veery! blatant harry potter ripoffs! From a magical summer camp, to a prophecy, to a best friend who is supposed to be clever (although she never really seemed that bright to me), not to mention spending the final book finding out about the bad guy's past, and having every group of allies in the series return for a final battle it all seemed a bit too blatant, accept of course for the fact that nobody actually ever got hurt. They weren't bad by any means, but even compared to other Ya literature they were just a little too overly fluffy for my liking, one reason why I've not picked up any of riorden's others. Dresden I did enjoy, albeit I got very sick of Dresden himself by the end of the series, particularly how he kept on picking up random powers and then still getting either kicked around or blatantly manipulated by everyone around him who he couldn't fireball! I did love some of the action sequences and awesome ideas, and some of the supporting cast who aren't! the winy wizard of the title rocked (I loved Michael), but in general Dresden is pretty much why I'm not crazy on urban fantaysy, --- all glitz and no go. Then again I love! the SEanon Mcguire October day and indeed buffy the vampire slayer so maybe I shouldn't be too off against all! urban fantasy . As to a long way to a small angry planet, Mrs. Dark and I are probably going to read that together when we've done Sanderson, as it sounds absolutely amazing! I love to see realistic average characters thrown into weird situations and have to cope, and it sounds like angry planet is full of that, as well as a fascinating world, so thanks again for another recommendation, we'll bump that one further up the list . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358677#p358677 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Also currently reading through the Dresden Files, since one of my friends won't quit telling me toyeah, that's anothr good series.Also going through the Highlander books, very, very good URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358615#p358615 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? I finished the book The Long Way To A Small Angry Planet recently. It's pretty incredible. I don't think you've ever read a book with aliens that developed, and the story itself was really enjoyable. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358590#p358590 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Hm, let’s see. Love the percy jackson books, Harry Potter is cool, hungergames is good even though I hate the main char, mase runner is good. Oh and yeah, I love the divergent books. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358564#p358564 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Oh my, The Tommyknockers, King really dropped a bollock there. His genius shines through here and there, but there's a ton of bulk, and the main storyline and central characters just don't hold enough interest to compensate. He gave so much page-room to characters I really couldn't give a stuff about, and the one person who had any kind of spark was a villain, and she was dead within five minutes of turning up. By King standards Tommyknockers was a bit of a stinker. King at his best though is definitely one of those writers who makes the little spin-off side-stories every bit as enjoyable to read as the main thrust. When he's really on form it's like having extra little novelettes to read inside the main book. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358562#p358562 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Tad williams is very good at the hole subplots thing. I will say some are more interesting than others at times, but thats the mark of a good author, its not actually surprising that Williams is one of George R R Martin's idles, there's even an amusing nod to MS in one of the game of thrones books in which your told about a nightly house who's standard is three swords and a dragon, where the two sons are Joshua and Elias ;D. I don't tend to find subplots bother me if they go! somewere. My major problem with subplots is when you've been forced to follow a character and there actions and there is no payoff, or the thing just peter's out mid flow as unfortunately does happen in some of steven King's earlier books (the tommyknockers in particular i remember as quite bad for this, though the stand doesn't seem to be). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358550#p358550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Sorry, I think I got the wrong end of the stick there. Thought you were just talking about great dystopia books rather than specifically influential young adult ones. As for sub plots, I'm all for multiple threads as long as they seem vital to the overall story, and are just as enjoyable to read and keep the story moving forward. Otherland for instance must have had eight or nine strands, and yet they were all strong, and you never felt like oh no we've got to put up with this for a chapter while the main story is left jogging on the spot. For the first two thirds, Otherland was like reading half a dozen good books at once. It's books that have threads that seem secondary and obligatory that I can't be doing with. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358427#p358427 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? @Jace I'm not sure if neuromancer and hungar games are comparable since Neuromancer is far more in the vane of world wrecked by huge mega coorporations while people live in urban sprawls than a specifically oppressive government in charge, not distopea, more sort of what we have now actually . Hunger games I site as the first example of the modern ya distopea novel, ie, protagonist who is a young adult, oppressive government, resistance, lots of action etc, though I could definitely see how something like Futuretrack 5 by Robert Westall would fall into that, actually Futuretrack 5 is a book I need to reread and review myself and comparrisons to Hunger games are sort of interesting, indeed I'm finding reading the Stand now its showing its age as novel not just by the culture being very 1970's, but also by the fact that gender rolls are fairly rigid, and there aren't really any competent female characters, which are rather jarring today. Then again My lady did acuse King in his early days of writing all his women as what she descriptively called "wet tissues" since they spend so much time crying . So this might not be as much about the genre as about King, still as compared to something like Justin Cronin's passage trilogy it is rather dissonant, though manifestly both The Passage and The stand are examples of post appocalyptic epic rather than specifically distopea, the Twelve does actually feature a distopic society, okay genre boundaries can go jump in a lake . One other ya distopea I read last year and was very! disappointed by was the red rising series by pierce brown, which were down right crap! basically all big explosions with a main character I constantly wanted to slap, actually I was sort of cheering on the bad guys since I wanted him to lose, though sicne I posted several rather scathing reviews of those over on fantasybookreview.co.uk I'll let people look there. @Flacus I don't know about sub plots. On the one hand I do take your point it being better to follow a single character's journey and not have too much that is irrelevant, on the other I love seeing the world and exploring different perspectives on things. This is one thing that made Brave new world such an interesting distopic novel since you followed characters who were or were not fans of the system, and it was the over all effect that gave you an idea of how problematic the particular society is, - a society which seems at least culturally if not quite in terms of organisation closer to monopolistic capitalism we have now than Orwell's vision of a totalitarian state. Anyway before this turns into an essay methinks I'll stop . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358411#p358411 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? The granddaddy of dystopia: boy that's a tough call. There's quite a few good ones. 1984 is the obvious one, but If you held a gun to my head, I'd probably plump for Lucifer's Hammer. Though I'm never quite sure if post apocalyptic fiction properly qualifies because it's really just people trying to cope with a catastrophe. I suppose a true dystopia is where a group of people have deliberately chosen to make society the way it is. Something like Futuretrack 5 by Robert Westall would qualify, and I love it, but it is a bit comic-booky and unrealistic. Westall is such a good writer of young adult fiction. I quite like that kind of simple writing because of its lean, straight forward A to B style. I think a lot of writers who write adult fiction seem to feel they have to have backstory an subplots in order to be taken seriously, but this often results in flabbiness. I really admire authors who write for adults, but keep it tight and don't feel the need for alternating chapters of main thread, subplot, main thread, subplot etc. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358365#p358365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? The granddaddy of dystopia: boy that's a tough call. There's quite a few good ones. 1984 is the obvious one, but If you held a gun to my head, I'd probably plump for Lucifer's Hammer. Though I'm never quite sure if post apocalyptic fiction properly qualifies because it's really just people trying to cope with a catastrophe. I suppose a true dystopia is where a group of people have deliberately chosen to make society the way it is. Something like Futuretrack 5 by Robert Westall would qualify, and I love it, but it is a bit comic-booky and unrealistic. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358365#p358365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Nope, Nalini Singh wrote the Psy/Changeling ones I'm on about, they're very, very interesting.Mazerunner's also good but oddly I like the films more myself, but the Hunger Gamesno no. If you want the granddaddy of a genre, Neuromancer, nuff saidthough I'll admit the Hunger Games at least here varies by chapter URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358354#p358354 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now?
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Hmm Jace, the divergent ones is that the trilogy by Veronica Roth? I have them but haven't tried them yet. I will confess the last ya distopea, ali condy's matched trilogy severely disappointed me, so it might be a while before I try another, though on the other hand I did very much enjoy both James Dashna's Maze runner trilogy and of course the grand daddy of all Ya distopea, the good old hungar games .I've not heard of the psi changeling books though, who wrote those? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358350#p358350 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now?
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Currently rereading the Divergent books again and starting on the Psi Changeling books here URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358266#p358266 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now?
Re: Bookworms: what are you reading/listening to now? Nope I read it literally half a lifetime ago when I was around 17, after seeing the miniseries with rob low as Nick andros. I will say I've never read the original cut version published in 1978, both back then and now I am reading the full, uncut version from 1990, since even if I could get the cut version I wouldn't really see the point. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=358062#p358062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
