Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

That's actually kinda weird, I had no problems getting it to work on my end, but that was also 1.1, so if something was changed, well. As it happens my warrior save hasn't done that one, so I'll try it myself in a bit.Edit: Huh, well definitely not an isolated event, my other save can't get it to work either, the dialogue option to tell the captain about him is there... it just doesn't seem to actually update the quest state properly any more for whatever reason.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

SpoilersI'm not sure if the Family Legacy quest is broken or not but I can't figure out what to do after unlocking the mausoleum. It says I have to unlock a crypt but I can't find it.End of spoilers

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Okay so yup, I was an idiot... I just missed one single bandit camp. lolNow that's done though, and I've done all of the side quests that I know of, so yay. Will start a new game plus in a couple days, possibly.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Secondarily, it allows you to pick a new class, so you can keep all the skills you unlocked with your old one. Warrior-thief anyone? Thief-ranger might be yummy. Or any of mage-cleric, mage-necro, cleric-necro in whichever order.Since enemies scale, it just means everything gets more powerful more quickly, which also probably means better gear lying around too, and more chances to thus accumulate more gold for the purchase of good things to bash with.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Hey all, I understand not reporting bugs if you aren't sure it's a bug. But if you find things you know are broken (i.e., effects lasting forever, places where you can cause the game to freeze, etc.), please, please, please email them to support [at] outofsightgames.com. There is literally no way we can compile errors that are reported here and be sure we haven't missed any, without generating a lot more work for ourselves (which, frankly, we have plenty of to already). If it's in our inbox, we have a record and can archive and log it. Thank you very much to those of you who have reported bugs. To my shame, this next patch is gonna be pretty massive.To answer the last question about why you'd do that thing you can do after completing the main quest: mostly just for fun, honestly.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

hidon't read what lyes ahead unless you finished the game, this is a question for those who did itHIGHAND HUGESPOILERSafter I finished the game well, kind of surprising and liked it a lot... why do I really would need to replay it with my main character? as I see now, i'm level 26 and I think these are all the sills for thief, or maibe i'm wrong. I don't mean I won't replay the game, my question is why I would want to do it with my main character? mai'be i'm too paranoid and really think these are al the skills, or not. can any of you help me and enlighten me?thanks in advanceend of spoillers by the way

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

there are, hmm, maybe 5 camps around the south eastern part of the forest? , 3 of them are close to each other, around south of  the bridge, 1 just east from north south road, one also on the east of north south road, but a bit deeper.and the last one is near the fishernot sure I am right or not thoughsorry for my english

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Which I still can't seem to do... watch, the last camp I'm missing is gonna be somewhere I've walked past like 20 times without realizing it. lolBut in all seriousness, I actually would really appreciate an assist at this point, this is kinda baffling now.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

yup you have to finish laying down the law  first, then you could talk to the captain about Wilhelm

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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hii'm still stuck at laying down the law. i'm pretty sure I've found all the rigges, bluffs, bit it still have a feeling i'm missing something out. like blind ninja sayd, it's kind of hard to find your way in the forest, and i'm lost, literally I don't know if the same rigge i'vefound 5 minutes ago is new or notI could use any help, so far, I've found arigge near the southwestern part of the forest, near the entranceof the sewers, one near the lumbermill, a outcropping, and a bluf. anything else?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

I wonder if you have to finish laying down the law before you can actually start changing of the guard?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Minor spoilers ahoy.ReunitedYou can soft lock your game if you pull the levre to release the wolves, then go back and talk to Wilhelm in the dungeon. Actually releasing him works as expected, but nothing but a freeze awaits you if you go back and talk to him. I was working on who framed Rogarr Rabgurg at the same time which is how I stumbled upon this.Changing of the guardI don't know for sure that this is a bug, but I can't talk with the captain about Wilhelm. I can only talk to him about my progress towards finding the bandit camps and about the horse.Laying Down the LawI second what others have said about no message popping up when visiting the camp sites, except for one which triggered a remark by Mathias.BattleMaster Planning lasts forever. Litterally.When status effects ware off outside of battle, their waring off animation still plays at the start of the next battle.If rest is used, but the unit who used it doesn't get their turn before the battle ends, they will rest the first turn they get in the next battle.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Possible spoilers.I actually did find that one, was just exploring over there because I saw the crates, and bam.I'm at a loss of where I haven't been though, lol because of all the thickets and the kinda mazelike layout of everything off the road, which most of these camps are, it's kinda hard to say if there's somewhere I haven't been.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

I managed to finish that one.  The camps can be placed in really out of the way spots.  Probably the most obscure one to find is the camp hidden on the northeast side of the woods over the river.  Think it's placed near the fisheries.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Hello folks! Well, I've located the dens without much of a problem. It took me  much exploration and spatial orientation, but I strongly recommend using headsets for the quests you have to find specific things or creatures that emits sounds while you move. It was one of the most rewarding quests to complete so far. Man, I felt like a true ranger.Best regards, Haramir.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

***Semi-spoilers/map info***I don't think the one in the ruins counts for the quest. I don't know the number offhand but I'm pretty sure it's six or seven. However, comments above make me wonder if one or more of them may think it's somewhere it's not, which would be a problem...

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

if I'm sure, there's one in the ruins tooand by the way, any chance I can find wolves in forest? my characters are up to level 20

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Slight spoilery things.Hey Joseph, I'm just wondering. For laying down the law, after you've located the ambush spots, how many camping spots does the game expect you to find? lol I ask because I've found 5 of them, and I've looked all through deepwood, or what seems like it anyway. I can't find any more at all that I didn't already clear out, but it's still saying I should clear them all out. Wondering if it could potentially be bugged? Or if I'm just missing one or two.Thanks.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

The game told you a rocky outcropping or the like was a bandit campsite? Oh dear. That's not a good sign.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

hiregarding the quest with laying down the law... I strangely went to a pleateau, or rigge, or well, I think it was a dirt outcropping...  and I got the following. this is a bandit campsite.and I marked in on my map. so, somehow it worked. I wonder if I need to take them in any apparent order?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Thanks BlindNinja. We knew what we were signing up for when we decided to stick with our announced release date even though an onslaught of technical hurdles prevented us from testing the final build as extensively as we should have. So we are committed to getting everyone as stable and bug-free a game, as quickly as possible. If anything, I'm just sorry that people are encountering these issues at all.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Really appreciate all the work you guys are doing, it's only been a few days since release, not even a week yet but [[wow]].

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Hmph. So sorry about this, guys. I know the quest isn't totally bugged but this will definitely make it much harder. For the record, I have the day off work on Friday and will be spending as much of the day as possible working on a content patch. I'll try to get through all reported content bugs, if time allows.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

helloyeah, I have to confirm what others sayd too. I can't get any dialog at marking rigges or bluffs, seem to be stuck to it, now

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Trajectory, what enemies you encounter are dependent on your level. It's fairly dynamic so there are no easy cutoff points to direct you to. I believe we did receive the email and it's on the list of things to look at to try to figure out what's up. Thanks for your patience.I'll also add the Laying Down the Law quest as something that we may need to review.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

@Joseph, I sent in an email a few days ago and haven't heard back. I attached a bad save file.I'm glad to know the wolf dens are bugged and that's not just how they're supposed to work.Spoilers!As for laying down the law, I stand in part corrected; at one camp sight Matthiasspoke of how he felt it represented his failure to defend the forest. I don't know if that was related to the quest or if it would have triggered had I not had that quest active.The game has not given me any other indications of progress any other time I've visited one of those areas.Also, can we get some insite into what the triggers for enemy upgrades are?I have the mines and forest completed as far as the main quest is concerned. I have 12 other quests completed, and 13 others on the go. My chars are all between level 20 and 23. I feel underleveled, but I can't access any of the weeker enemies that would be more suited to grinding.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

@josephFor laying down the law, in my case it didn't actually prompt me either, not sure what was causing it but yeah. And I might've already stated this in the release topic, but the only reason I knew it was actually working was because my quest log updated after I found the last one.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

this may be off topic a little, but how do we coppy errors and to what email do we report bugs?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Predators and Prey: Unfortunately we involuntarily made this very difficult for you all because the sound of the wolf dens does not attenuate with distance. So you're right, it's completely unreasonable...because it's a bug. We will get that fixed in the next patch.Laying Down the Law: You don't need to mark them with custom beacons. When you enter the relevant areas they will prompt you with a dialogue to mark them on your map. If you've actually set foot in a location like the High Ridge or Windy Bluff since activating this quest without getting a dialogue to mark it, there is probably something bugged—though others have passed this point of the quest with no problem so I'm not sure what you may have done differently to cause it to bug.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Can anyone confirm working/broken status of a few quests? Warning, possible spoilers if you haven't come across these.Predators and pray: I found three of the wolf dens no problem. The one up by the north bridge... I've been circling it for hours and hours, it won't trigger anything. The range wherein you can hear wolves snarling is of considerable size, it can be heard in areas on both sides of the bridge, and I swear I've been to every path and shrub around there and it just won't trigger the fight with the wolves.Laying down the law: I've been to bandit campsights. I've been to high ridges. I've been to windy bluffs. I've been to plateaus and the dear path. Nothing happens to indicate that progress is being made towards finding ambush sites.Since the captain said I had to mark them on my map, I've started placing out custom becons at these locations thinking that'd trigger something; but nope.Another tidbit about the wolf hunts: I know I posted about this in the release topic, but unless there's something I'm missing I think it's a little unreasonable in it's current form. I'd like to know what the actual dimentions of the audable range are, but the range is huge with no indicator of whether you're getting warmer or colder.I'm not necessarily asking for solutions to be spoiled. I just want to know for sure that I just haven't figured something out yet and not that I'm the victim of a bug here.Thanks.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Sometimes I wonder though how many quests are actually in the game, lol I'm sitting at 32 complete if I didn't miscount.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

joshknnd1982 wrote:so do i update the game by running that updater program in the game folder?Yes - I had to figure that out just by trying it, but you run the updater and it starts to download the files.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Thanks for the clarifications folks. Happy hunting for everyone Best regards, Haramir.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

so do i update the game by running that updater program in the game folder?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

is there another way to get wolf's pelts? , my characters are around level 30 now, so there is no wolfs anymore I think.have to check again.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Yeah, at the time I figured okay well it wasn't gonna know the game got updated, let's try finding another wolf? And yup, it worked. lol

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Little bit of an inside scoop on the wolves—every time a wolf pelt adds to your inventory, the game checks to see 1. if you're in the wolf-pelt-collecting stage of Madeline's quest, and 2. if so, if you have 20 or more. If both of these are true, it advances the quest. Turns out that when we released, we were checking for the wrong quest stage because the wolf pelts used to be the second item in the quest and one of the checks never got switched. That's fixed now, but you have to get another pelt in order to run that check again, so that the game knows to update your quest.BlindNinja, I'm glad to hear that you were able to advance, as I received some reports that there was no option to give the pelts to Madeline. Now I suspect that just means people hadn't advanced the quest yet.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Yes, you need to kill another wolf.I'm actually stuck on the next part myself, I can't seem to find more shrubs for nightshade... I'm stuck at 12.Edit: Never mind... I'm a moron. I need Mattheus in my party...

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

Yes, you need to kill another wolf.I'm actually stuck on the last part myself, I can't seem to find more shrubs for nightshade... I'm stuck at 12.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

I strangely can't still finish the supply line quest after the update, do I have to kill another wolf to trigger it? , saddly though wolfs are rare, or none now, everything I encounter on the deepwood are bandits, the tree, and trolls

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

The general store quest was bugged and has been fixed in the 1.1 patch we just released.Spoilers and pro-tips below:If the blacksmith has asked you to sell him goblin gear, it should show up in your sell inventory when you re selling items to him. If you do not see the gear in your sell menu then this is indeed a bug—please email support if that is the case.Regarding clearing the thickets in the Heart of Deepwood, you should be able to walk up to the thickets once the shears are purchased to clear them. If this doesn't happen then this is a bug—I will try to test it out and confirm.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

With belts you can sell them I think, I have onli one, so, I do not know.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

I confirm everything post 2 said.

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

SPOILERfor  the prison quest, I just bring Gwen with me, and she will burn the thing that blocking the prison.I can't complete the 20 wolf's pelts too, I have 25 now, but nothing happend when I talked to madalin.for the blacksmith quest, I think you just have to sell the equipments

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

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Re: Apparent broken quests on A Hero's Call?

SPOILERfor  the prison quest, I just bring Gwen with me, and she will burn the thing that blocking the prison.I can't complete the 20 wolf's pelts too, I have 25 now, but nothing happend when I talked to madalin.

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