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How is TalkBack's Braille Keyboard? I've seen a small demo and it seemed ok, but I've heard some things saying it's not the greatest. What do those of you who have used it regularly think of it?
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
android braille support is a disappointing mess! I would take an iPad paired with an orbit reader20 or an orbit reader20Plus, anyday!
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I personally prefer my orbit reader20 paired with a modern iPad with its braille screen input. Braille screen input on iPad works great!
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Yes, I agree. The way the Touch+ does things when Keysoft is disabled is much more efficient than it was before.
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Yeah it's much better than on the original Touch. On the original Touch it would quit whatever you were in when disabling KeySoft
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@ Rich_Beardsley:Thanks for your explanation by holding down both volume kes to turn on and off Keysoft. It works much better than Keysofts own command to turn it on and off. I didn't found this information in the manual
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Yeah when I had my school Touch everything was done in standard literary UEB Grade 2. But in the cases computer braille was necessary, I knew the things I needed to know. Sometimes I'd forget and it would take me a second
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True. I prefer to not use computer braille too much if I can help it. If required though, I can use it to the best of my ability.
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Oh, you can, just not in computer braille.
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
I believe so. I don't know of a way to turn capslock on on the Touch+. I could put that in as a note of feedback ffor a possible feature request if you'd like.
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
So say I'm typing NVDA in computer braille, I have to hold backspace the entire time? Not saying it's hard, it's just more of a convenience thing
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No, you cannot, as the key is backspace
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Not sure on the bnt, but on the apex, capslock is enabled by pressing the capital key twice, it should be the same on the touch. For instance, the caps key when using english braille, is dot 6, when in spanish, capital sign
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Hi.Sorry to revive this topic, but I had a question. At some point, whenever my blind services finishes whatever it is they have to do and I have my Touch, there may be times I need computer braille. Is there a way I can
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Thank you super. I will try to make it as I continue to read the manual.
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If you want a note-taker that has the world-leading translation program of Braille to help its language codes succeed, along with the functions of a braille display, and mathematical capabilities to boot, then your answer
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Well, now that many people are using the tatouch, Is it worth buying? Just got a fire tablet but I only use for reading, but I want to use the touch mostely as a braille display.
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@SLJ, Download it from the PlayStore and run it just like you'd run anything else, then press both volume keys until you hear your notification sound. KeySoft is disabled and the device will function like a regular mainstream
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Mmm, BLT32! 32 inches of bacon, lettuce, and tomato!SLJ wrote:Hi.I'm sorry to be late on my reply.Regarding what I wrote in post 7: Yes, I am talking about the Braille Note Touch Plus. It's running exactly like I described
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Hi.It's quite interesting that people are having different experiences on using the Braille Note Touch Plus.Would someone give me the exact instructions on how to launch A Blind Legend and make it work on the device?Maybe
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
I have the issues with Crhome, but not bluetooth.And they can do that, because it's Android. It's open sourced. Developers can do whatever the hell they want to with it. Hell, they could probably make it only command based
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Basically, when I connect my iPhone to my BrailleNote Touch+, the Bluetooth connection bar says that it's "in progress", even when it's connected, making connecting to anything else impossible. The main problems w
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Basically, when I connect my iPhone to my BrailleNote Tough+, the Bluetooth connection bar says that it's "in progress", even when it's connected. The main problems with Chrome pop up on highly "active
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Basically, when I connect my iPhone to my BrailleNote Tough+, the Bluetooth connection bar says that it's "in progress", even when it's connected. The main problems with Chrome pop up on highly "active
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Speaking of the Braille Note Touch Plus, Software update for the BrailleNote Touch Plus adds pdf support, sign in with google, and more#BlindBargains
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Agree with @61. Chrome works really good. KeyWeb, which we all know was on the original touch, is a nightmare. The only nice thing about KeyWeb was the fact that you could use first letter navigation to find different elements
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@55, I believe that is an experiencial basis, because Chrome runs fine on mine, and I have never ever had a problem with Bluetooth ever since I got it.
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
How can manufacturors do that?
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Humanware probably nuked it, same as custom launchers. Which is probably good, that's something the braille sense, at least didn't used to do, causing you to be able to completely fuck the device up.
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@56 Why is that? Is it because of the tablet's launcher? Or did Humanware somehow find a way to disable the feature?
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@56 that is good to know
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No, you can *not* ge ttalkback to run, correctly at least. It just, sits there. It will say it's on, and just sit there.@Munawar, good point. The main reason I still have a notetaker is for school, although having less devices
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Replying to @51 and @52:Yeah, the Touch Plus has some serious bluetooth issues, along with the fact that Chrome runs horribly on it (mostly on image-based webpages). Certain things really baffle me about it, because Bluetooth
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
No the volume key shortcut works on KeySoft
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I see why would you not be able to install the google services to get it working their. that would be interesting
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Hi.@51, I'm sure you could run TalkBack. You'd just have to get the Google Accessibility Suite from the PlayStore. And no it no longer kicks you out when disabling KeySoft. That was only on the original Touch. On the Plus you
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Hi.I'm sorry to be late on my reply.Regarding what I wrote in post 7: Yes, I am talking about the Braille Note Touch Plus. It's running exactly like I described. It is currently on my desk next to me.Regarding the Braille Note
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Not just the Braille Note, but just about every bit of assistive technology costs too much.You asked would it be worth the Touch? Buying it, no. Having a blind services agency get it, yes. The device offers several benefits
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
For those who say the braillenote touch plus is priced to high, I think that you are partly right. Let me explain. You can get an android for under $1000, and a the 14 cell display from humanware is around $1000. Asuming
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@47: great question. I got curious at one point too because I thought "hey, there must be cheaper options out there." My agency had just dropped me because I'd graduated from university so I needed to start footin
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
For those who say the braillenote touch plus is priced to high, I think that you are partly right. Let me explain. You can get an android for under $1000, and a the 14 cell display from humanware is around $1000. Asuming
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Agree with @Ty. Even iPhones eventually become unsupported. Although they get updates for a while, Apple eventually stops pushing them out
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
That's why there are different blind services agencies. They will purchase these devices for you. Mine is in the process of getting me one, but because of the price, there's a big process they have to go through
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Munawar, I have an honest question for you. Where on earth is a good braille display that wouldn't rack up the price of a flagship android plus itself up to at least 4000 dollars? I wonder now, as when I checked, braille
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All this talk about flashy new hardware and the latest tech got me interested, especially since people on here were saying they were going to buy the product. So I looked it up, in the hopes of seeing that assistive tech has
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Definitely, other languages have improved, and NVDA does show italics... although that seems to be all i shows nowadays, unfortunately. And yes, I love braille formatting so much that I put EPUB files, fanfic and all
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
@Devinprater, you do bring up an interesting point. Why don’t we have proper braille formatting indicators in print documents? That should be the case, and it is definitely worth an aggressive push to get that to return
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Aron Leppik wrote:wait, you have to pay 6 k for this? wtf?That's why we have Blind Services agencies who purchase this stuff.And I agree. Braille displays are overpriced, and I'd even go as far as saying they make Apple
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
The *only* thing the old notetakers have for them is formatting. Yeah you all can fall asleep now, I get it.So, with the old Braille Note MPower and Apex, if you opened a document in the word processor, or a book in the book
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The *only* thing the old notetakers have for them is formatting. Yeah you all can fall asleep now, I get it.So, with the old Braille Note MPower and Apex, if you opened a document in the word processor, or a book in the book
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I am of the opinion here that literacy is power, but I do think in time, the pricing of braille technology will be lowered due to the price for production and sale of parts can be reduced. I am satisfied with the Touch+ I have
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Yes. It is a braille notetaker, afterall. No voicenote here, I fuckin wish.
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wait, you have to pay 6 k for this? wtf?
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hell I could root my tablet if i wanted and I don't give a shit if it is leagle or not I would still do that as I own the device
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Firstly, the touch doesn't run off of an SD card anymore. Secondly, no, you could not undo the root, especially if it bricked the device, which yes, I've done. Third, the legality of jailbreaking and rooting:Rooting a device
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strange amerika. here jailbreaking is legal and Even mac os vms are legal. and also rooting is not iligal. lol.bud seriously now is jailbreaking really iligal in the us?
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@31 first of all I want to point the fact that jailbreaking or rooting is not illegal. and I would not root the touch unless you want to buy another sd card with the software.
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I wouldn't root or otherwise heavily modify that system. You won't have any way to restore the stock firmware if you royally mess things up.
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Yeah but can't you just undo your root?
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
You probably can but it might break stuff. I would be surprised if humanware didn't block it. Rooting is, technically, illegal, same as jailbreaking. This doesn't just go for HW, but if you root it and it breaks as a result
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
@soren I'm sure you could.@ty What do you mean breaks the support?
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can i install something else on the note touch? i mean a diverent homescreen like ms launcher?or nova. or samsung expirienze start?or is this blocked?
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
@25 yes, but I would not risk it. That's a 6000 dollar device and rooting breaks the support, no matter if you bought it. So yeah, don't do that. 27, What exactly do you mean? Touching braille doesn't activate it... What touch
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what? are you serious about multytouch talkback? I can't even think how could that be achieved, due to how android accessibility is implemented, a second citizon only, not completely integrated. And what happens when you need
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I haven't gotten my personal one yet because of the process my blind services agency has to go through, so I don't know. However, since it is running a fully functioning version of Android 8.1 I don't see why it couldn't
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can i root this thing?
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Yes, my menu is a godsend. So is Android 11! Hi, multi-touch Talkback!
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@Chris, in some ways KeySoft is almost identical to TalkBack. For example, most if not all sounds are the same, and the gestures you can use with Touch Braille disabled are pretty much the same. You can access the context
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Keysoft is the accessibility service on the BrailleNote models powered by Android. I suspect it's a forked version of TalkBack. I also suspect they've written their own home screen and other applications.Keysoft on the Windows
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Keyweb, Keyword, KeyPlan, etc.Oh and I can't forget, a Built-In Frotz Interpreter.
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Keysoft is humanware's accessibility service for the braille note touch.
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keysoft? O wow, what a weird name. I only herd about these braille devices in passing, but of a keysoft, I've never herd of. Are you sure you don't mean talkback or something? really keysoft? what's that, actually?
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@17, Yeah. It's a fully functioning Droid tablet. That means you can run any Droid app on it. If it's a game, just hold both volume keys to disable Keysoft and you can use it just like you would on an Android phone
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ww. brallente touch runs n android? awesom.i think i will buy braillenote touch plus.thanks for suggestions.
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Last I saw Humanware still sells chargers and cases for the Apex, but I haven't seen anything in the Support section for it
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Yeah, I heard the Apex was left to die when the HumanWare proceded with the BrailleNote Touch. I do know a few people that still have them though.
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Even if not, the page and support line for it does certainly still exist.
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I don't think so
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@11, Humanware as far as I know is still selling the BrailleNote Apex as well. I could be wrong, though.
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Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
I'm surprised by this thread that HIMS is even still selling the BrailleSense U2. I owned one back in 2014--my college years--and judging by how fast technology moves, it's sure to be legacy hardware by now. Then again, how
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Exactly. The Plus is just as good as any other mainstream tablet you'll find
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@7 those all sound like normal Touch issues. The Plus got rid of all of those.
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@7, Are you talking about the Plus or the original Touch?Don't forget that there were two touch models. The original one that came out in like 2016 or so, and the Braille Note Touch Plus which came out in 2019.If you were
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Hi.I completely disagree regarding the Braille Note Touch, and you can't compare it with the U2, because it's out dated. Compare it with the Polaris instead.1. The Braille NOte Touch have a lot of Bluetooth issues. The Braille
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Hi.Braille Note Touch Plus all the way.Not only does it have better software and processors, the build quality feels really good. From my experience, HIMS products feel very cheaply made.And @2, Touch Braille is good for you
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4, you probably tried the touch before the plus. The Touch before that point, was horrible. It ran kitcat, android 4.4, and froze every other second. I have had none of that on the Touch Plus however.
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Basically, BN T runs outdated Android, but BS U2 runs even more outdated discontinued Windows. Well actually, I don't think it's completely fair calling Orio outdated, as the previous post states that it still receives updates
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Basically, BN T runs outdated Android, but BS U2 runs even more outdated discontinued Windows. Well actually, I don't think it's completely fair calling Orio outdated, as the previous post states that it still receives updates
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Hello.I have had personal experience with both the BrailleNote Touch+, and the BrailleSense U2. I would recommend the BrailleNote Touch+ over the BrailleSense U2, for a few reasons:1. The BrailleSense U2 runs on an outdated
Re: braillenote touch and braillesense u2, which one is better?
Braille note touch plus. It runs android, and is much newer. If we were comparing the touch and the polaris, my answer would still be Touch, as it's on a much more modern android version, plus touch braille is fucking amazing
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