Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread chesterdad
richardw;533736 Wrote: to my ears there is a significant difference, for the better, in the digital outputs of the transporter vs sbx. i think there are many reasons for this, some being indirect like the ability to use upgraded power cords with the transporter, but just the power supplies

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Thavmasio
Now, we all know that the mp3 is a vile affront to the discerning ear and a hideously retrograde step back from the basic minimum quality of the CD and that the current trend towards providing music in downloadable mp3 format should have plagues and demons unleashed upon its instigators. And my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Phil Leigh
chesterdad;534095 Wrote: I immediately noticed the difference in my system with the Transporter and bass response using the digital outs vs the SB3. I can't tell you the reason, but I was expecting no change in this, but was stunned that I could hear much better bass clarity and tightness.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Phil Leigh
What amp do you have? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Thavmasio
Its a NAD C370 - I lean towards the heavier side of music and it provides ample power and bass! -- Thavmasio Thavmasio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15496 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;534121 Wrote: The TP has somewhat less jitter than the SB3 and if you have a jitter-sensitive DAC... But the jitter of the SB3 output is already pretty low - very probably beneath the threshold of audibility. Jitter gets trotted out as the explanation for everything these days, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Phil Leigh
cliveb;534165 Wrote: But the jitter of the SB3 output is already pretty low - very probably beneath the threshold of audibility. Jitter gets trotted out as the explanation for everything these days, and I just don't buy it. It seems much more likely that things like grounding issues and/or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread DCtoDaylight
You can open the mp3 in an audio editor, apply the equalization you like and resave. If you've got a lot of files, it would be a bit tedious the first time, unless the editor you use supports batch modes. I use Adobe Audition, for example, which will do batch processing. Alternatively, the I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread richardw
audiomuze;534079 Wrote: If it's backed by science I'm all for it, otherwise the differences are between the ears... this is a broad statement and in a way you are supporting my own position. this is the very reason i use mit cables and am hesitant to use most of the other cable manufacturers.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Robin Bowes
On 13/04/10 13:42, richardw wrote: audiomuze;534079 Wrote: If it's backed by science I'm all for it, otherwise the differences are between the ears... this is a broad statement and in a way you are supporting my own position. So you agree that the differences you are hearing are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread richardw
no, i do not think the differences are psychological but i do think your position is rooted in more of an emotional response than scientific. blinded by science?? not even sure what you mean by that but i was trying to convey that if you think you understand it all you are vastly mistaken. and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Thavmasio
Aha! Many thanks, DCtoD for taking the time to reply. That's a useful starting point, bearing in mind my near-total ignorance of these things. I looked at Adobe Audition - which looks scarily complex, though. It looks as if it is intended for experts and/or professionals and must take some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Robin Bowes
On 13/04/10 14:06, richardw wrote: no, i do not think the differences are psychological but i do think your position is rooted in more of an emotional response than scientific. Out of interest, what do you think my position is? I have an audio background - B.Eng(Hons) Electroacoustics, worked

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread mlsstl
Robin Bowes;534242 Wrote: Do *not* under-estimate the suggestive powers of your grey-matter. R. Two fascinating books on the subject: 1. A Mind Of Its Own by Cordelia Fine 2. The Hidden Brain by Shankar Vedantam Both offer excellent insight in to the subconscious and background

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread richardw
i read your position as seeing my reaction to the changes i hear from my cable as primarily placebo or the result of some deficiency in the design of the dac. i also read that you believe the spdif interface should sound better than the aes3 interface. the other side of your position seems to be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Pat Farrell
richardw wrote: sorry you struggle reading my lack of interest in the shift key. I share Robin's view that your words would be easier to read if you took a nanosecond to use proper capitalization. But then, perhaps you are not really interested in communicating. -- Pat Farrell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Themis
Without getting into details I agree with Robin and Phil: 1st, if an AES/EBU cable (MIT or whatever, I have already tried the MIT) sounds *significantly* better than a properly-constructed coax S/PDIF, then there is something going wrong somewhere in your setup. And I can't say neither what nor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread richardw
Themis;534272 Wrote: Without getting into details I agree with Robin and Phil: 1st, if an AES/EBU cable (MIT or whatever, I have already tried the MIT) sounds *significantly* better than a properly-constructed coax S/PDIF, then there is something going wrong somewhere in your setup. And I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread Robin Bowes
For the avoidance of any doubt, my position is that I am extremely sceptical about miracle cables or pens or stands that make a system sound hugely better at a price far above that of their constituent parts. I am not suggesting that all cables are the same, or that cables don't make any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread richardw
Robin Bowes;534281 Wrote: For the avoidance of any doubt, my position is that I am extremely sceptical about miracle cables or pens or stands that make a system sound hugely better at a price far above that of their constituent parts. I am not suggesting that all cables are the same, or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Phil Leigh
Thavmasio;534234 Wrote: Aha! Many thanks, DCtoD for taking the time to reply. That's a useful starting point, bearing in mind my near-total ignorance of these things. I looked at Adobe Audition - which looks scarily complex, though. It looks as if it is intended for experts and/or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Mnyb
which input not the phono I hope ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Very very strange Transporter problem

2010-04-13 Thread Peter314
Peter314;494977 Wrote: I too would like to know whether the Touch can handle this track ok. Can any beta tester confirm..? Answering my own question, Rebecca Pidgeon's Spanish Harlem did indeed stutter when played through my new Touch. Just spent a while re-encoding all Hi-rez flacs to -0

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread Robin Bowes
On 13/04/10 18:49, Mnyb wrote: which input not the phono I hope ? That's what it sounds like to me. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporters Future?

2010-04-13 Thread cunobelinus
Perfect reproduction, Pat - I can hear it from here - of the sound a nail makes when whacked squarely on the head. And not just in communicating. Of, course, it might merely indicate an unhealthy preoccupation with, and corresponding self-referential delusions concerning, the life and works of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as preamp

2010-04-13 Thread S2K
I have connected my TP directly to my Classe power amp using balanced leads. Use it as a dac/pre-amp for other devices as well. There are two problems with this setup. depending on the recording I can't turn the volume down as much as I would like. At -49,5 db the music is still marginally too

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as preamp

2010-04-13 Thread S2K
I have connected my TP directly to my Classe power amp using balanced leads. Use it as a dac/pre-amp for other devices as well. There are two problems with this setup. depending on the recording I can't turn the volume down as much as I would like. At -49,5 db the music is still marginally too

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh wise and kind audiophiles or The curse of the vile mp3

2010-04-13 Thread DCtoDaylight
Thavmasio;534234 Wrote: I use GoldWave for the recordings. Should I perhaps be using some other software instead (or as well as) at the recording stage? Or am I completely missing the point somewhere? Many audio editors have equalization controls. I mentioned Audition because I used it for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Memristance in interconnect cables

2010-04-13 Thread pski
Phil Leigh;533649 Wrote: +1 - a balun is the correct way to do this. There are acceptable cheats though...provided the balanced eqpt mfr has followed convention/standards Thanks, Phil. Please look at the JBL supplied solution provided in the .pdf below. Is this dangerous or does in