jfo wrote:
Bump. Anyone out there who can deal with these trolls?
Just because someone disagrees with your point of view and is not going
to back down to you does not make them a troll.
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The DAC in my 10 year old Denon AVR2805. If it ain't broke don't fix
it.
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no fucking clue.
No you don't do you.
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aren't.
My collection is very well organised thanks.
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organised in-memory database. A decent sized artwork cache is another
matter though.
100 bytes is nothing though and if the tags are unicode then you just
halved that. 50 characters wouldn't cover the song title + artist for
many of the bands I listen to.
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see are hardware
and if the database is indeed kept on each player that's probably why.
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to about 15.5KHz so have never
believed hi-res content was of any use anyway.
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It also takes sod all technical knowledge.
Burn SD card image
Put in raspberry Pi
Follow simple instructions on picoreplayer site.
Done.
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All insulation slows down the signal on the conductor inside.
What the actual bleep!!?! That's just an outright lie.
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sound. There's nothing wrong with liking the sound of vinyl at
all.
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and I'll point people just getting interested in the right directions. I
can't be bothered to argue with people whi have no interest in reality
any more.
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I believe no matter what the dealer says, distance
selling regs I believe.
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Is there any reason you want the KEFs? You'd be better getting a set of
actives that don't have the USB DAC functionality if you're not going to
use it?
I was looking at them but I want to plug them into a PC :)
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audio and digital audio really makes them either fools or liars.
We just need them to make a comment like the Birmingham is a Muslim
only city on Fox News, and then have to apologise about all their BS
over the years ;)
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like this is acting as an
antenna for interference then it's been built by a 2 year old.
It's odd that no computer manufacturers or the people that wrote the USB
spec think that they need any of this isn't it.
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Any reason this warranted a duplicate thread?
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Julf wrote:
Why?
Because it costs stupid amounts of money! Obviously ;)
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I'd love to know what these people think connects everything together in
data centres.
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websites.
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to work out who does and who doesn't ;)
Just for fun
http://hometheaterreview.com/ps-audio-directstream-network-audio-player-and-dac/
Why? Why would you convert everything to DSD?
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afaik. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decibel
I do hope the part about 16/24/32 was a joke.
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Gandhi wrote:
They would simply hear more of the music
Why? The music is more dynamically compressed, it'd make it more
difficult to hear little nuances etc not easier, surely.
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not
identical then something is wrong.
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darrenyeats wrote:
Evidence-based reasoning isn't the same as turning out to be right in
the end.
So you're saying we'll be going backwards by deciding that science is
wrong?
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Mnyb wrote:
Thats actually not contested , people in this tread claim that the
diffrences are for other reasons the streams are bit perfect
Fair enough then. We're going into the realms of psychology so I'll duck
out.
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wrong.
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is an audiophile going to go anywhere
near it.
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product if you ask me!
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... The front fascia is clearly not milled aeronautical aluminum.
Ergo, the sound *sucks*.
:rolleyes:
:D So very true ;)
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with a link to wav files, which I downloaded, converted to flac and to
which I added metadata. All is well.
Holy poop! Why would anyone embed an image that large!?!?
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that a FiiO D03K
could possibly be any good because it's so cheap :) They'd rather pay
£1k on something that does the same job.
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Drop them into fb2k or something similar and have a look. I hadn't
noticed mp3tag even showing sample rate etc but I use it for tagging.
As jj says, multi-channel is a good call, otherwise I'd say they're
24/96 files.
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. And these samples are
floats. I'm no expert, but I don't think bit depth is such a useful
concept when talking about MP3s.
You're right they're 32-bit float so nope, they have no bit depth in the
sense that PCM data does :)
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If you don't want a shiny box you can put together a piCore player with
a HiFiBerry DAC for less than £100 :) Being a RaspPi I'm sure you could
add some funky dials and stuff!
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recordings are resampled from the 24-bit recordings I take
it? If they're different recordings/masters/sources then your 'test' is
completely irrelevant and proves nothing.
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probedb's
buying a
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differences
are not listening to the music at all.
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using the iTunes database for meta data etc. It isn't playing the files
differently..at all.
Next you'll be telling us you renamed the files and moved them to
another drive and the change in sound was night and day.
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I'm not sure if this one has been posted yet:
http://www.cyrusaudio.com/faq-what-is-servo-evolution
I asked them how they did their testing etc etc and oddly enough, no
response ;)
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Someone needs to watch http://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml as it would
explain why bigger numbers are not making more accurate files.
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was in stereo equipment
not in the PC.
Can anyone spot the real audiophile in the room ;)
I haven't found anything to outperform my £30 FiiO D3 yet.
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What you really need to test are Chord's £1600/m ethernet cables ;)
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steve-g wrote:
As his first graph clearly shows - it is WITHOUT any filters.
Sorry, this is what I was referring to:
http://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/Digital_Show_and_Tell#Stairsteps
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Hey boys, just put up the PCM measurements. Some pleasantly surprising
results for stair-stepped PCM lovers :-)
Except PCM isn't stair-stepped ;)
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Not true! There are all those sharp square bit-shaped steps in the
signal. And anyway, you can't get the timing more precise than a sample
interval!
(yes, purely joking - aren't those the top 2 misconceptions about
digital?)
Indeed :) As I've already posted, anyone that
netchord wrote:
this is precisely my point. i do want good sound, and could give a fig
whether it's accurate in the engineering sense or not. I've spent
over 10 years performing real live classical music in major concert
halls in the UK, France, Italy, Germany, and the US. i know what
heisenberg wrote:
An interesting thing happened to me yesterday. I've purchased Les
Nubians Princesses Nubiennes CD and ripped it to AIFF and then sat
down to listen in amazement. Why in amazement? Because I've previously
had that CD ripped in 320 kbps mp3 format and was listening to it for
netchord wrote:
i listened to two file types, through the same system, with all other
variables constant. one consistently sounded better. i have no bias
either way; in fact, given mine is an apple based system, it would be
simpler to use ALAC (less transcoding file types).
Yet you still
One of the best replies:
If you don't hear USB cable differences your system is not up to task.
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garym wrote:
Unrelated to this thread, but interestingly, your eyes may be important
in what you hear (the reason many of us prefer double blind testing to
remove biases in comparisons). See this for a very interesting example,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0
That's a bit
Very useful and links are given so you can try everything yourself at
home :)
http://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
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It often goes: How does it sound - spectral plot posted - that sounds
good!
Indeed, I'm often surprised at how good my eyes are at hearing :)
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to breathe. This would then lead onto the sale of audiophile
gas masks
Or am I taking it too far? ;)
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I'm not even sure what you're asking?
What data rate are you talking about? What's the percentage you're
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hear the RF interference caused by a
super nova in another galaxy, they can hear the movement of tectonic
plates in the earths crust, they can hear.oh what it must be like
to be an audiophile ;) Our simple senses simply cannot grasp the
reality they live in.
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Well they have to try and figure out some way of selling pointless and
over-expensive gear to audiophiles for digital stuff don't they ;)
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I take it you're talking transmission frequencies and not audio.
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driver for about
$100 more that I would love to try.
Same here :) I use them every day and have the UM-56 custom molds as
well. I run a flat EQ on my rockboxed nano and they sound awesome, the
right amount of bass, treble, everything for me really!
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I think this one you posted is fantastic :)
http://grumpyoldarts.com/2009/04/18/audiophools/
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software.
It is all mathematics but they're implying that somehow free software
developers are stupid and can't do maths.
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not feel CD is crap...because
it isn't.
24/96 is necessary if you're doing audio processing but I doubt most
people can tell the difference between it and 16/44 in most cases.
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absolutely
nothing to do with listening to it on a stereo for me.
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GuyDebord;410979 Wrote:
Listening to music involves all the senses, sight, touch, smell... you
guys just dont get it... continue convincing yourselves of perfectly
reproduced SOUND!
Since when did music smell?
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His arguments for not using lossless compression are amusing...
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/In-What-Format-Should-I-Rip-My-Music
...then again it is an audiophile website so whatever he says is
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Do an ABX test and post the results, should be an interesting listening
test :)
There's recently been a big discussion around this on hydrogenaudio I
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more
technical.
Remember this is the Audiophile section and they won't believe you once
they get an idea in their head that something is wrong. After all they
probably paid £1000s for their systems so they know best right? ;)
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That's a subjective opinion though.
Actually, Illustrate makes this claim, and from their perspective it's
not entirely subjective.
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm
They did the testing and say their software is best, wonder why?
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Hell, you need a wireless network!
Just how exactly is my wired-only SB3 working then? Must be magic.
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running through a furnace all the
time!? What's wrong with you, you know they sound better at 1200oF ;)
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Do a blind listening test and see if you can tell the difference. If you
can't why bother colouring your CDs in?
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they weren't
encoded properly in the first place or whatever verifier you're using
isn't doing it's job properly.
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format comes along. Also transcoding to another lossless format
will never result in any loss in quality as they're both lossless :)
HTH.
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you understand ;)
FLAC all the way. Even for these people that have an ultrasonic hearing
range, WAV has no tagging ability and takes up more space.
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If you're ripping with something decent like EAC and use secure ripping
you're unlikely to get any ripping errors, or none that you can hear
anyways. If you're using something daft like Burst Mode expect errors
galore.
Use EAC and you should be fine.
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canal phones so you can probably get away
with maybe the -V 4 setting in LAME for cars?
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passing untouched digital signals to your DAC.
I'd say the squeezebox will give better quality, but like everything
it's subjective as to whether or not you can actually tell the
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sound cards to get
the quality analogue out from a PC :) Digital is easier but usually a
bit messier due to Windows messing with the audio without you asking.
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If you're going to do any of the suggested then make sure you check
whether or not you can actually tell the difference with some blind
listening tests. If you can't tell the difference there really is no
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is a very good resource for us anti-audiophiles ;)
The only cable I've noticed make a difference was upgrading from a £7/m
Tandy RCA cable to a £40/m Straightwire RCA analogue interconnect. That
was night and day, if I hadn't known I'd have thought I had a new CD
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. Sounds much better than this it
really does.
Totally impressed with this little thing...it's much smaller than I
thought, don't ask me why I didn't think it was so diddy. I love it :)
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Yep sorted now cheers :) I was using the old version which isn't
compatible with 6.5.0, oops.
I'm going to try and find a digital coax lead from somewhere and see if
I can actually answer my question at some point as well, tho it sounds
pretty damned good as is!!
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