Wombat wrote:
>
> EXACTLY! There are people working hard with many posts on different
> forums only to keep that message of the last sentense alive to make
> sense out of their own products ;)
I don't think it's just their products. It's a need to keep the whole
*CLASS *of products alive!
Archimago wrote:
> Although perhaps early days, I believe and hope that what we're
> witnessing are hints of a change in the audiophile hobby for the better.
We said that in the 80's too :)
There will always be people who want to believe - be it homeopatic
"medicine", tha dangers of vaccines,
jkeny wrote:
> Despite these two aspects, the plots of the 5V power out of the Regen
> show it is far cleaner than the Vbus - maybe you are forgetting about
> the voltage reg?
>
> As I said, the 5V does account for some proportion of the improvements &
> as I also said, I'm interested in
jkeny wrote:
> Oh, I see - John Westlake is a very well known audio designer & E'ee
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Westlake
Even the Pope is fallible...
> I had similar thoughts about USB cables - lots of people reporting
> audible differences with different cables - the ones I tried,
Archimago wrote:
> Hi John.
>
> Let's focus on the comments above.
>
> Firstly are we talking about '-improved eye-pattern-'
> (http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2680112#post2680112)?
> I see that Westlake has been 'critical of the Regen's stock SMPS'
>
Archimago wrote:
> Okay, maybe...
>
> Don't know the guy and have no reason to automatically think anyone's
> lying so will go with the "probably mistaken" option for now unless
> reasons show up otherwise.Oh, I see - John Westlake is a very well known
> audio designer & E'ee
Julf wrote:
> Even the Pope is fallible...Funny you equate a belief system to a
> measurements system :)
> So what measurements did you do to see if the differences might be
> measurable?I didn't
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jkeny wrote:
> Funny you equate a belief system to a measurements system :)
That is all in your interpretation. Replace "Even the Pope" with
"Everyone" if that works better for you.
> I didn't
I thought the discussion was about hearing differences that can't be
measured. So unless you
Julf wrote:
> That is all in your interpretation. Replace "Even the Pope" with
> "Everyone" if that works better for you.
>
>
> I thought the discussion was about hearing differences that can't be
> measured. So unless you actually measured, I fail to see the relevance.
I'm not interested in
jkeny wrote:
> I'm not interested in the trivial arguments
Really? Actions speak louder than words... :)
"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W
This Regen mesurement thread nicely shows how parts of the busines
work.
I quote a post by BE718 at WBF:
So what you are saying Bob is that we should ignore the very real
measureable noise the regen created. We should ignore the very real and
measureable RF noise spuing from the switch mode power
jkeny wrote:
> Oh, I see - John Westlake is a very well known audio designer & E'ee
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Westlake
>
That's nice. -But he hasn't explained how something can make an audible
difference but not show up on the analogue outputs of a DAC...-
>
> Right, so I'm
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