Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.
I watch this radio discussion with interest.
Airspace is a big haystack out there and the needles are small. Some gliders
have FLARM, but powered aircraft dont.
5, or is it 10, light aircraft pilots need to be aware that there could b
On 21/04/2012, at 9:13 PM, john.mcfarlane wrote:
Flarm, Power Flarm, SSR/TCAS, Mode C/Mode S, Primary Radar/ATS, ADS-B,
Eyeball, VHF, CB, CTAF, CTAF(R) and NOTAM’s
Have you guys actually had a look at the shear amount of disparate
systems you have mentioned.
And then we add into the mix that
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Alan Wilson
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.
I watch this radio discussion with
back to the runway. Then they
installed ILS and required instrument rated pilots.
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On 20/04/2012 21:37, Simon Hackett wrote:
In the unlikely event you've not all seen it already, here's one way
the outcome could have turned out:
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007288.html
I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few
glider pilots seem passion
I recently operated motorglider for AEFs at a large regional airport with RPT
and the flying doctor. The aircraft was fitted with a device that was both a
flarm and an ADSB (I think). And yes it had a transponder connected.
It worked. I spoke to the flying doctor on the ground after we both
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Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.
Scott,
There are multiple benefits beyond 'big planes and towers' seeing
On 20/04/2012, at 10:03 PM, Simon Hackett wrote:
> ... i.e. ATC will often actively notify other VFR traffic they can see, of
> the presence of conflicting traffic they can see. They will happily notify
> any little plane about threats they should act to avoid, they are not just
> there to hel
Scott,
There are multiple benefits beyond 'big planes and towers' seeing you.
As I said:
I've found that air traffic control is frequently helpful to VFR and IFR
aircraft, in that they will call you up proactively and advise of the presence
of transponder-equipped unidentified traffic in your
On 20/04/2012, at 9:37 PM, Simon Hackett wrote:
> I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider
> pilots seem passionately opposed to for their own reasons, the notion of
> regularly operating transponders in gliders is one that I personally believe
> would be of
In the unlikely event you've not all seen it already, here's one way the
outcome could have turned out:
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/007288.html
I will say that while I appreciate its an issue that more than a few glider
pilots seem passionately opposed to for their own reasons, the
Behalf Of Scott
Penrose
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To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Radio & near collision.
On 20/04/2012, at 2:07 PM, Tim Shirley wrote:
"Cessna XXX 10 miles SE Benalla maintaining 4500 ft overf
An excellent example of differing management styles:
- by rote, - by priorityand then there is - by objective
On 20/04/2012, at 1:49 PM, Peter F Bradshaw wrote:
It would be better to reasonably comply with all rules.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tim Shirley wrote:
I listen as
How do we get the spirit of this across to other aviators, public and
media?:
On 20/04/2012, at 1:37 PM, Tim Shirley wrote:
the operational characteristics of gliders makes information provided
by radio far less useful in a predictive sense than the same
information given by a powered aircraf
On 20/04/2012, at 2:07 PM, Tim Shirley wrote:
> "Cessna XXX 10 miles SE Benalla maintaining 4500 ft overflying for Mangalore"
> "Cessna XXX glider YYY, be aware there are approximately 6 gliders operating
> in the vicinity of the airfield up to 6000ft"
> "YYY this is XXX, please give locations o
Hi;
It would be better to reasonably comply with all rules.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Tim Shirley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
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>
> I have a simple rule for the radio. I listen as much as possible and I
> talk as little as I can get away with while still complying with all
> reasonable rules.
>
> Cheers
Hi all,
It's not quite right to suggest that it is only glider pilots who need
training.
A recent radio exchange at Benalla went something like this:
"Cessna XXX 10 miles SE Benalla maintaining 4500 ft overflying for
Mangalore"
"Cessna XXX glider YYY, be aware there are approximately 6 glide
The ATSB report states
"The pilot of MST did not recall hearing a call from ULZ and was unaware of
ULZ’s position until the incident"
And in the news article the pilot states he was changing the radio and
"preparing for landing"
I would say he was too distracted by knobs, dials, gauges and passenge
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:12:20AM +0930, Stuart Cassidy wrote:
> A more accurate title would be "teen pilot nearly causes accident"
> I think it is poor form when passengers are maintaining a better lookout
> than the pilot.
The ATSB says the glider pilot saw the Cessna at about 2 miles dista
A more accurate title would be "teen pilot nearly causes accident"
I think it is poor form when passengers are maintaining a better lookout
than the pilot.
On Apr 20, 2012 9:47 AM, "Mark Newton" wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:31:21AM +1000, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:31:21AM +1000, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote:
> http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/2012/04/20/teenage-pilots-quick-response-avoids-collision/
The actual ATSB report referenced by the article is here:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/3548648/ab-2012-019.pdf#page=47
I'm s
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/story/2012/04/20/teenage-pilots-quick-response-avoids-collision/___
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