Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks (Noel Roediger)

[COLIN WHISSON]

Sharing Soaring Flight with Avians.

Questions:


1:  How many years have you been a soaring pilot?

25 years


2: Have you ever shared a thermal with any bird? (List species and for how long)

Yes, approximately 15 shared thermals. All eagles. Average time approximately 1 
- 3 minutes.


3: Regarding Raptors while soaring with them, (list type) have you ever:

Flown with without any attack.

Been menaced by.

Attacked.

Only one encounter where I feel certain I was about to have one land in my lap. 
I'd been catching glimpses of this eagle for a few minutes in a thermal, then 
lose sight of it. A couple of turns later, I happened to glace directly above 
me. I vividly remember seeing the eagle tuck in a wing, dropping like a missile 
towards my lap. Surprising how manuverable an asw15 can be ?. Rolled it over 
and headed for the deck. Didn't see the eagle again.

Aside from this, I don't feel comfortable flying with them if they get closer 
than a few wing spans away, or if they have an intense vibe about them, so I 
just enjoy short encounters and will leave them be.

They are fascinating.





Regards

Colin Whisson
B.Comm (Accounting)
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From: Noel Roediger
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To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Re: Eagle attacks (Noel Roediger)

Hello John.



Re-reading what I wrote can be miss-construed as I deleted an explanative 
sentence because it was clumsy English.



What I should have said is:  If you've not been attacked  by a raptor during a 
significant period of soaring the only avian you should treat with real  
caution is the Australian Pelican. (for reasons previously described).



Raptors do have a variable response to individual  glider pilots and I've ample 
evidence - from many Aus. soaring pilots to back up this statement.



Why?.  I  don't know yet but believe they have more senses than we realize.



NOW; A request to all.



Some years ago - while visiting friends in the US -  I looked out of their 
condo. window and spotted a bloke flying a magnificent falcon in the community 
park.



As I got down to the  park she returned to his gauntlet and tho. jess'd, 
remained unhooded .



Approaching them and  while introducing myself to him  she began to chirrup and 
allowed me to stroke her.



So began an instant friendship with her owner who happened to be the Professor 
of Ornithology of a well known US university.



We spoke for many hours over the next two days discussing Australian Raptors 
and I promised to write a paper for him on the subject.



However, on returning home, I found I'd placed his contact details in a "secret 
place" and they only came to light a couple of days ago.



Any way, it seems sensible to include all of your experiences in my paper.



I've attached a fairly long  list of questions and will appreciate you 
returning your experiences to me.



With thanks.



Noel.



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I think Noel's comment that we only need worry about Pelicans causing us 
mid-air catastrophe is a bit unwise.

I suffered an eagle mid-air in Spring some years back wherein it rolled on its 
back about 200' above me and dropped straight down. This after putting up with 
me for 2-3 turns in the thermal.

It struck mid-span right on the spar cap with a helluva bang, leaving a big 
visible dent (on the spar cap!) and causing $8,000 worth of damage. I shudder 
to think what a couple of kilos doing 50-60 knots vertically would have done if 
it hit the cockpit, the tail boom, the tailplane, etc.

I've soared with eagles many times over 50+ years of soaring and they are 
predictably aggressive in Spring and especially so when they have young with 
them. Prior to the above incident, their attack was always a steep head-on dive 
that was easy to spot and evade. I now choose to leave the thermal if they 
manoeuvre to above me within 1-200 feet.

That said, they are still a magnificent sight that inspires awe in the air up 
close - that beak, those eyes and the way their small wing-top feathers dance 
in the turbulent flow. I still can't outclimb them but, interestingly, I have 
outclimbed Sea-eagles once or twice. Maybe that is because they don't seem to 
climb too high the way Wedgies do.

Cheers

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks (Noel Roediger)

[Noel Roediger]

Hello John.

 

Re-reading what I wrote can be miss-construed as I deleted an explanative
sentence because it was clumsy English.

 

What I should have said is:  If you've not been attacked  by a raptor during
a significant period of soaring the only avian you should treat with real
caution is the Australian Pelican. (for reasons previously described).

 

Raptors do have a variable response to individual  glider pilots and I've
ample evidence - from many Aus. soaring pilots to back up this statement.

 

Why?.  I  don't know yet but believe they have more senses than we realize. 

 

NOW; A request to all.

 

Some years ago - while visiting friends in the US -  I looked out of their
condo. window and spotted a bloke flying a magnificent falcon in the
community park.

 

As I got down to the  park she returned to his gauntlet and tho. jess'd,
remained unhooded .

 

Approaching them and  while introducing myself to him  she began to chirrup
and allowed me to stroke her.

 

So began an instant friendship with her owner who happened to be the
Professor of Ornithology of a well known US university.

 

We spoke for many hours over the next two days discussing Australian Raptors
and I promised to write a paper for him on the subject.

 

However, on returning home, I found I'd placed his contact details in a
"secret place" and they only came to light a couple of days ago.

 

Any way, it seems sensible to include all of your experiences in my paper. 

 

I've attached a fairly long  list of questions and will appreciate you
returning your experiences to me.

 

With thanks.

 

Noel.

 

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I think Noel's comment that we only need worry about Pelicans causing us
mid-air catastrophe is a bit unwise.

I suffered an eagle mid-air in Spring some years back wherein it rolled on
its back about 200' above me and dropped straight down. This after putting
up with me for 2-3 turns in the thermal.

It struck mid-span right on the spar cap with a helluva bang, leaving a big
visible dent (on the spar cap!) and causing $8,000 worth of damage. I
shudder to think what a couple of kilos doing 50-60 knots vertically would
have done if it hit the cockpit, the tail boom, the tailplane, etc.

I've soared with eagles many times over 50+ years of soaring and they are
predictably aggressive in Spring and especially so when they have young with
them. Prior to the above incident, their attack was always a steep head-on
dive that was easy to spot and evade. I now choose to leave the thermal if
they manoeuvre to above me within 1-200 feet. 

That said, they are still a magnificent sight that inspires awe in the air
up close - that beak, those eyes and the way their small wing-top feathers
dance in the turbulent flow. I still can't outclimb them but, interestingly,
I have outclimbed Sea-eagles once or twice. Maybe that is because they don't
seem to climb too high the way Wedgies do.

Cheers

John Gwyther



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks (Noel Roediger)

[John Gwyther (BIGPOND)]

I think Noel's comment that we only need worry about Pelicans causing us
mid-air catastrophe is a bit unwise.

I suffered an eagle mid-air in Spring some years back wherein it rolled on
its back about 200' above me and dropped straight down. This after putting
up with me for 2-3 turns in the thermal.

It struck mid-span right on the spar cap with a helluva bang, leaving a big
visible dent (on the spar cap!) and causing $8,000 worth of damage. I
shudder to think what a couple of kilos doing 50-60 knots vertically would
have done if it hit the cockpit, the tail boom, the tailplane, etc.

I've soared with eagles many times over 50+ years of soaring and they are
predictably aggressive in Spring and especially so when they have young with
them. Prior to the above incident, their attack was always a steep head-on
dive that was easy to spot and evade. I now choose to leave the thermal if
they manoeuvre to above me within 1-200 feet. 

That said, they are still a magnificent sight that inspires awe in the air
up close - that beak, those eyes and the way their small wing-top feathers
dance in the turbulent flow. I still can't outclimb them but, interestingly,
I have outclimbed Sea-eagles once or twice. Maybe that is because they don't
seem to climb too high the way Wedgies do.

Cheers

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Peter Champness]

Thanks for your second response.  I was unaware of the incidents you
describe.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Noel Roediger 
wrote:

> For those interested – and who have read my previous statement “pelicans
> do not attack”  - you may recall a pelican took out a RAAF F-111.
>
>
>
> It didn’t attack but just dived from fear and hit the F-111 cockpit with
> catastrophic result.
>
>
>
> The closest I’ve ever come to being killed in an aircraft I was flying due
> to a bird strike occurred when returning to Parafield in a C404 . and as we
> passed over “Pelican Point” power station a pelican dived between the
> minimal square formed by the stbd. fuse., L/E, engine cowl and prop.
>
>
>
> Noel.
>
>
>
> *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] *On
> Behalf Of *Peter Champness
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:21 PM
> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks
>
>
>
> Any reports of damage from Pelican attacks?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Noel Roediger 
> wrote:
>
> All of you will have experienced acceptance, rejection or even attack by
> creatures you’ve approached or neared – be it a dog, cat, bird or reptile.
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> You tell me.
>
>
>
> If you are attacked by a Wedge-tail, or any other creature, it’s simply
> because *it doesn’t like you.* (mating/breeding season and area
> protection is not a cause)
>
>
>
> The only bird you may soar with, in Aus, that can cause a catastrophe is
> the Australian Pelican.
>
>
>
> Without malice – but rather from fear - it dives vertically if it’s
> disturbed during flight and that’s where we, as soaring pilots are most
> exposed as we generally enter a thermal below them.
>
>
>
> Noel.
>
>
>
> *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au
> ] *On Behalf Of *Angus Stewart
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
> *To:* aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
> *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks
>
>
>
> Just saw this article from WA -
>
>
>
> https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-
> emergency/
>
>
>
> Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken
> canopy.
>
>
>
> Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?
>
>
>
> /Gus
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Noel Roediger]

For those interested – and who have read my previous statement “pelicans do not 
attack”  - you may recall a pelican took out a RAAF F-111.

 

It didn’t attack but just dived from fear and hit the F-111 cockpit with 
catastrophic result.

 

The closest I’ve ever come to being killed in an aircraft I was flying due to a 
bird strike occurred when returning to Parafield in a C404 . and as we passed 
over “Pelican Point” power station a pelican dived between the minimal square 
formed by the stbd. fuse., L/E, engine cowl and prop.

 

Noel.

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of 
Peter Champness
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:21 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Any reports of damage from Pelican attacks?

 

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Noel Roediger  
wrote:

All of you will have experienced acceptance, rejection or even attack by 
creatures you’ve approached or neared – be it a dog, cat, bird or reptile.

 

Why?

 

You tell me.

 

If you are attacked by a Wedge-tail, or any other creature, it’s simply because 
it doesn’t like you. (mating/breeding season and area protection is not a cause)

 

The only bird you may soar with, in Aus, that can cause a catastrophe is the 
Australian Pelican.

 

Without malice – but rather from fear - it dives vertically if it’s disturbed 
during flight and that’s where we, as soaring pilots are most exposed as we 
generally enter a thermal below them.

 

Noel.

 

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mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Angus Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
To:  <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Just saw this article from WA - 

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

 

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken 
canopy.

 

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

 

/Gus


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[Noel Roediger]

Peter.

 

I can only assume you never passed a literacy exam otherwise you would not have 
 replied with such an idiotic response.

 

Noel.

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of 
Peter Champness
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 8:21 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Any reports of damage from Pelican attacks?

 

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Noel Roediger  
wrote:

All of you will have experienced acceptance, rejection or even attack by 
creatures you’ve approached or neared – be it a dog, cat, bird or reptile.

 

Why?

 

You tell me.

 

If you are attacked by a Wedge-tail, or any other creature, it’s simply because 
it doesn’t like you. (mating/breeding season and area protection is not a cause)

 

The only bird you may soar with, in Aus, that can cause a catastrophe is the 
Australian Pelican.

 

Without malice – but rather from fear - it dives vertically if it’s disturbed 
during flight and that’s where we, as soaring pilots are most exposed as we 
generally enter a thermal below them.

 

Noel.

 

From: Aus-soaring [ <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au> 
mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Angus Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
To:  <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Just saw this article from WA - 

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

 

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken 
canopy.

 

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

 

/Gus


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Peter Champness]

Any reports of damage from Pelican attacks?

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Noel Roediger 
wrote:

> All of you will have experienced acceptance, rejection or even attack by
> creatures you’ve approached or neared – be it a dog, cat, bird or reptile.
>
>
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> You tell me.
>
>
>
> If you are attacked by a Wedge-tail, or any other creature, it’s simply
> because *it doesn’t like you.* (mating/breeding season and area
> protection is not a cause)
>
>
>
> The only bird you may soar with, in Aus, that can cause a catastrophe is
> the Australian Pelican.
>
>
>
> Without malice – but rather from fear - it dives vertically if it’s
> disturbed during flight and that’s where we, as soaring pilots are most
> exposed as we generally enter a thermal below them.
>
>
>
> Noel.
>
>
>
> *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au
> ] *On Behalf Of *Angus Stewart
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
> *To:* aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
> *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks
>
>
>
> Just saw this article from WA -
>
>
>
> https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-
> emergency/
>
>
>
> Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken
> canopy.
>
>
>
> Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?
>
>
>
> /Gus
>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Noel Roediger]

All of you will have experienced acceptance, rejection or even attack by 
creatures you’ve approached or neared – be it a dog, cat, bird or reptile.

 

Why?

 

You tell me.

 

If you are attacked by a Wedge-tail, or any other creature, it’s simply because 
it doesn’t like you. (mating/breeding season and area protection is not a cause)

 

The only bird you may soar with, in Aus, that can cause a catastrophe is the 
Australian Pelican.

 

Without malice – but rather from fear - it dives vertically if it’s disturbed 
during flight and that’s where we, as soaring pilots are most exposed as we 
generally enter a thermal below them.

 

Noel.

 

From: Aus-soaring [  
mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Angus Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
To:   aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Just saw this article from WA - 

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

 

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken 
canopy.

 

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

 

/Gus

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Mark Newton]

On 13 Oct 2016, at 11:51 AM, Angus Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

I heard a radio call from a bird-struck glider at Whyalla while I was soaring 
near Lochiel many years ago.

A wedgie attacked one of AUGC’s gliders a long time ago (before my time). It 
was a known offender, and the club spent the rest of the day with the entire 
fleet swooping repeatedly over its nesting tree on the ridge while it looked on 
indignantly and, I supposed, occasionally ducked.

I’m guessing we’ve all been dive-bombed during nesting season heaps of times. 
They usually come out of the sun, so you don’t see them until you catch them 
flashing past in the corner of your eye.

I gather they think we’re birds, and they aim for the eyes (cockpit) or wingtip 
feathers, just like they do when they’re attacking other avians. I doubt their 
sense of scale is very well developed, and I reckon they almost always miss 
because they break off at the last second in surprise at the fact that we’re 
bigger than they are.

I’ve always kept an eagle eye (heh) on them when thermalling, and never trust 
them when they’re above me.

One of my best experiences in my life, though, was watching a wedgie playing in 
my wingtip vortices while I was turning in lift, slowly move up the span of the 
wing towards the fuselage, and look at me. Close enough that I could see the 
feathers around its eyes rustling in the wind. 

You really know you’ve been looked at when you’ve been looked at by an eagle in 
flight.

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[Derek Ruddock]

I was the pilot...

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From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf
Of Justin Couch
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2016 12:02 PM
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On 13/10/2016 11:51 AM, Angus Stewart wrote:

> Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a 
> broken canopy.
>
> Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

SCGC's Astir wore an eagle through the leading edge of a wing many years
ago. Took out about a 1m section of it. Aircraft landed safely.

I've had a very narrow escape when flying at Bathurst a long time ago. 
Saw a flash of something that made me look up to see the outstretched legs
coming straight at me. Buried the stick in the instrument panel as it zipped
past the nose of the glider by not very much.

--
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Jim Staniforth]

   Had quite a few non-contact attacks by golden eagles and wedgies. 
Most attacks are apparently near to nesting areas.
  When I flew paragliders I once had a visit from a hawk. Appeared to 
just be asking: "Aren't you supposed to be walking on the ground?"

Jim


-- Original Message --
From: "Noel Roediger" 
To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" 


Sent: 10/13/2016 6:01:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

It is an established fact raptors  attack sailplanes flown by pilots 
they see as air pollution.




It’s the pilot they attack – not the sailplane.



Noel

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On 
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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
To:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks



Just saw this article from WA -



https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/



Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a 
broken canopy.




Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?



/Gus
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[Noel Roediger]

It is an established fact raptors  attack sailplanes flown by pilots they see 
as air pollution. 

 

It’s the pilot they attack – not the sailplane. 

 

Noel

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of 
Angus Stewart
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:22 AM
To: aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Just saw this article from WA - 

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

 

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken 
canopy.

 

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

 

/Gus

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[DMcD]

>>Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken
canopy.

Considering the silly hat he was wearing, very lucky indeed. I hope
the eagle did not suffer from being a taste or fashion arbiter… I
thought that was what CFIs were for.

D
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Mike Borgelt]

This one had a tragic outcome: 
http://aviationweek.com/blog/vulture-disaster-bad-luck-poor-planning-or-fate



Mike






At 10:51 AM 10/13/2016, you wrote:

Just saw this article from WA -Â

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only 
minor injuries and a broken canopy.


Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

/Gus
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Roger Browne]

Interesting.

 

I have had threat poses from wedgies on only a few occasions.  Normally they 
are not concerned and sometimes like to play with the glider.

 

The thought of a thrashing eagle with its mighty talons inside the cockpit is 
daunting.

 

Roger Browne

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of 
Angus Stewart
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2016 11:52 AM
To: aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

 

Just saw this article from WA - 

 

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/32876540/bird-strike-forces-glider-emergency/

 

Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken 
canopy.

 

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?

 

/Gus

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Eagle attacks

[Justin Couch]

On 13/10/2016 11:51 AM, Angus Stewart wrote:


Pilot very lucky to get out of that with only minor injuries and a broken
canopy.

Anyone else got some interesting eagle attack stories?


SCGC's Astir wore an eagle through the leading edge of a wing many years 
ago. Took out about a 1m section of it. Aircraft landed safely.


I've had a very narrow escape when flying at Bathurst a long time ago. 
Saw a flash of something that made me look up to see the outstretched 
legs coming straight at me. Buried the stick in the instrument panel as 
it zipped past the nose of the glider by not very much.


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Justin
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