Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

It certainly is, thanks Jen Dave Browning | Senior Network Engineer P 1300 791 678 D 07 3708 0008 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jen Linkova Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 2:30 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169 I

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

I believe the latency should be back to usual values now. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:55 PM Dave Browning wrote: > All, > > Just to keep the list updated on this issue, Google have confirmed there > is a wide spread problem and the appropriate Engineer's are on the case > > Cheers, > > Dave

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Very well said! My personal views on the matter are that while quotas are often implemented with the best of intentions, the whole thing can actually backfire rather badly. I've seen this happen in non-tech sectors with similar imbalances where quotas or top level representation was mandated above

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

I never defined merit as being able to configure BGP. Merit is whatever is applicable for the role they’re performing. Regardless of their gender, they should be picked on that and that alone. I know a lot of women who would be offended to be chosen based purely because they’re a woman. It’s

Re: [AusNOG] Peering contact for AWS

Hi Damian, I'm not sure bi-lateral peering could be arranged with them due to the nature of their business, however they offering a peering product you could use to save on outbound to AWS endpoints and inbound from AWS resources in accounts you own: https://aws.amazon.com/directconnect/features/

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

I think that you need to be careful defining "merit" for an organisation who's primary functions are to run a conference and mailing list. Just because all of the past and present Ausnog directors can configure BGP with the best of them doesn't automatically qualify them to sit on a board and

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

This discussion has now made a 90 degree turn away from the point it was trying to address - There are reported instances of sexual harassment at a recent event and by replies it seems people want something done about it. If the Board of AusNOG value further input from the community about how

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

+1 to this. This thread has well and truly reached the end of it’s useful life, and a number of people have achieved absolutely nothing with their unprofessional bickering and ad-hominem attacks on each other (among other numerous logical fallacies present). Some of the conduct shown within

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

So, someone made reference to the lack of females on the board... Can we take a moment and have a look at something? Apart from myself (who identifies as 'one of the guys' most of the time) how many female members are there? If you were to consider the topic being discussed, I would have

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

All, Just to keep the list updated on this issue, Google have confirmed there is a wide spread problem and the appropriate Engineer's are on the case Cheers, Dave Browning | Senior Network Engineer P 1300 791 678 D 07 3708 0008 Level 1, 12 Railway Tce, Milton QLD 4064 -Original

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Merit’s a tricky concept because it’s subjective. It’s been used to keep various underrepresented groups out for quite a long time. You see this coming out of studies where they change the names on resumes and measure the response rate and things like that. You also see it in differences in

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

On 03/10/2018 13:13, andrew khoo wrote: > can we all please fork these discussions into a separate thread or list? > > regardless of validity or virtue or other discussions, there ARE a few of us > folk that still want to use this list for operational purposes. +1 David, can you setup an

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Luckily while a very male-dominated industry, we're not lacking eminently qualified and talented women so I'm certain a gender balanced board is easily achievable. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:00 PM James Troy < james.t...@agilityapplications.com> wrote: > Benno, > > As I mentioned on the backlash –

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

There are some views here that would be very welcome in the Liberal Party. Please go away and join them! - G. On 3/10/2018 1:16 PM, Robert Brockway wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Benno, As I mentioned on the backlash – here it is… You see my response as not very positive or helpful – I think that is quite sad really. “White dude” – well ½ of that is right… I am actually TSI. I would NEVER want to be selected/hired/elected based on this. To the point its why I

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

So I, too, am a lurker on this list. Hell, I don’t even run any networks besides my home one, haven’t done for ages. That said I, too, have been watching this with interest and I’ve seen two responses, well one response, and one class of responses, that I find interesting. On the one hand,

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all men. I'm wondering who is doing

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

can we all please fork these discussions into a separate thread or list? regardless of validity or virtue or other discussions, there ARE a few of us folk that still want to use this list for operational purposes. On October 3, 2018 at 1:09 PM, dusty (dusty...@gmail.com) wrote:

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

“Merit-based selection” False equivalences #metoo denialism (ohnoes won’t someone think of the poor menfolk??) “Virtue signalling” Anyone else hit redpill bingo from this email alone? On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 15:58, James Troy wrote: > Ive long been a member of Ausnog mailing list, I find the

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Ive long been a member of Ausnog mailing list, I find the information that is often posted here to be quite valuable; I have also been watching this thread with a particular keen interest. Particularly as I was waiting to see how long the #MeToo and ‘gender diversity’ was going to get

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Hi Jen, Looks like your front line aren’t aware of the issues, see response below; -- Hi,   Google

[AusNOG] Peering contact for AWS

Hi all, Is there anyone from AWS on list who can put me in touch with the peering guys at AWS for Sydney to organise some bi-lateral peering. I have emailed the entry in peeringdb (peer...@amazon.com) several times over the last few weeks with no response. Thanks Damian -- Launtel -

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 14:59, Matthew Young wrote: > “While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the > Ausnog board.” > > People should be appointed based on their merits, not based on their > gender. > Show me a man with a bias-free recruitment/selection process, and

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Just to let everyone know - the problem is being investigated right now. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:42 AM Dave Browning wrote: > All, > > I am seeing high latency into Google's network from both our network and > also my home network. Is everyone else seeing this? Examples are 8.8.8.8 > and

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

“While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the Ausnog board.” People should be appointed based on their merits, not based on their gender. From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul Wilkins Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018 5:50 PM To:

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

David, The reason you've not heard of these concerns before is, d'uh, there is no mechanism to address the issue. And let's be clear, 1) a Stop Thread was issued to refuse the issue a forum. 2) you're only hearing about it now because Bevan passed the information on, and so have no choice but

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Hi All, Seeing same sort of behaviour from my VPS in Sydney and my local connection, doesn’t affect the local www.google.com though. Also seeing a bunch of unreachables in the path from both sites, This does seem to happen with the Google DNS servers

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra NOC contact (IPv6 fun again)?

Hi Jen, I'll shoot you a direct email to resolve. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:35 AM Jen Linkova wrote: > It looks like IPv6 connectivity to www.telstra.com.au is broken (for > *some* clients) in quite amusing way...Looking for right contact to > report and troubleshoot it. > > -- > SY, Jen

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Latency and packet loss… > On 3 Oct 2018, at 10:41 am, Dave Browning wrote: > > All, > > I am seeing high latency into Google's network from both our network and also > my home network. Is everyone else seeing this? Examples are 8.8.8.8 and > 35.185.160.2 > We direct peer with them.

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Hell Cali, same from our networks. Tracing route to google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms 10.10.1.254 2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 103.252.153.206 3 1 ms 1 ms 3 ms 10ge-cor02.mel01.as45638.net.au

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Hi, Same for us: http://syd.smokeping.ovh.net/smokeping?target=USA.AS15169-2 Regards, -- Florian Valette [cid:image001.png@01D35ECD.DB11F490] Innovation is freedom Email: florian.vale...@corp.ovh.com

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Dave Browning wrote: All, I am seeing high latency into Google's network from both our network and also my home network. Is everyone else seeing this? Examples are 8.8.8.8 and 35.185.160.2 We direct peer with them. Looks as if my home ISP do too. Latency seems to jump

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 64 hops max. 1 10.0.1.254 (10.0.1.254) time=19 ms 2 lns01.syd01.nsw.simtronic.net.au (203.31.115.65) time=4 ms 3 203.31.115.138 (203.31.115.138) time=16 ms 4 15169.syd.equinix.com (45.127.172.73)

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Yep same from Servers Australia and Aussie Broadband. ~127ms and ~135ms respectively. Both sets of traces are hopping over to the Google network domestically (~0.7ms), and then it must be going offshore from there. On 03/10/18 10:41, Dave Browning wrote: All, I am seeing high latency into

Re: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169

Seeing the same. Likely shifted the traffic to another PoP temporarily. -Original Message- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Dave Browning Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2018 10:42 To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] High Latency to AS15169 All, I am seeing high latency into Google's

[AusNOG] Telstra NOC contact (IPv6 fun again)?

It looks like IPv6 connectivity to www.telstra.com.au is broken (for *some* clients) in quite amusing way...Looking for right contact to report and troubleshoot it. -- SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

"Seems you've never been to a meeting." The verity of this statement cannot be overexaggerated. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:42, Mark Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

Thanks for that Nathan. Though I have to disagree, and refer you to the Sex Discrimination Act, where you can't structurally exclude women from engaging in public life. Private Corporation regardless. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:11, Nathan Brookfield <

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 17:41, Mark Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. > > > > While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the > > Ausnog board. I see where

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 16:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. > > While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the > Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all > men. I'm

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

As announced at the conference, the AUSNOG Pty Ltd will soon no longer exist and a new non for profit association will be formed with the members of this list being members of the association. This will involve a constitution and the directors being responsible to the members and I would hope

Re: [AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

The need for a Code of Conduct has been raised and it's a good point. While we're at it though, there needs to be female representation on the Ausnog board. I see where there's 5 directors been appointed, and they're all men. I'm wondering who is doing the appointing. That they couldn't find a

[AusNOG] Sexual harassment in our industry.

We thank Bevan for raising this important issue and bringing it to our attention. This is a complex situation and we take any allegation of this nature very seriously. We hope to discuss this further with those concerned in an attempt to establish specifics, while maintaining the