Re: [AusNOG] Suggestions for security audit

Sounds like a job for browser client certificates. On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 15:10, Rhys Hanrahan wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Thanks for all the recommendations, much appreciated. I’ve got a number of > options to look at now, and lots of discussions to be had. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Rhys Hanrahan >

Re: [AusNOG] Home Affairs to request Facebook legal intercept

Facebook refuses to compromise on privacy, firing back at Australia, US and UK <https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/facebook-refuses-to-compromise-on-privacy-firing-back-at-australia-us-and-uk-20191210-p53ik7.html> On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 13:42, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Presumably Hom

Re: [AusNOG] Smoke and radio performance

of a solid downpour, so signal loss will be within expected power budgets. Regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 17:22, Matt Perkins wrote: > Assume your talking LIPD band stuff with low power. I’m sure there is > increased attention on the path due to scatter and Increased cross c

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

Upcoming Public Hearings <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Dataretentionregime> *06 Dec 2019:* Canberra, ACT On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 10:21, Paul Wilkins wrote: > NSW Police Force submission #39 > <https:/

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

ich the OP should follow up with Fair Trading), or, this is deliberate policy to prefer WiFi over cellular, and the OP should follow up with the ACCC. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 19:54, Jamie Lovick wrote: > Hi, > > WiFi calling is a user configurable option. It's

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 14:45, Narelle Clark wrote: > On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 10:14, wrote: > > > > Also, anyone have any thoughts about what ACL one might put in place > > to block wifi calling if one was of a mind to? > > The last time I had a

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

an emerging debate, and realistically will be resolved in the US, and Australia will have little option but to follow suit. It's the consequence of being a branch economy, that policy and technical outcomes are put beyond the reach of national sovereignty. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 12 Oct 2019

Re: [AusNOG] Software Defined Routers

ou want resident hardware. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 21:20, Noel Butler wrote: > if performance matters (and it does very much so), why would you be using > *_anything_* virtualised at all... > > > On 03/10/2019 23:19, Guy Ellis wrote: > > Has any

Re: [AusNOG] Anyone have any ancient Bay 5000/5399's lying around?

make the process hands free and accessible through a serial port. Offer an accessible way to authenticate against a CLID, and the business model looks increasingly less crazy and more something useful to do with your time. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 21:30, Tom Storey w

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

NSW Police Force submission #39 <https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=75170998-0442-4a5d-823e-3ed3898e44a1=670049> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 10:51, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > Home affairs unlawfully accessed stored metadata, ombudsman reveals > <https://www.theguardian.com/a

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

mbudsman concluded that agencies were “generally exercising their powers … appropriately” but highlighted lapses including:... On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 15:53, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I found this rather cryptic observation in the submission > <https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

peasy to get a Zigbee dongle into a wifi shell. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 17:09, andrew clarke wrote: > On Wed 2019-08-21 04:19:55 UTC+, Mark Delany (g...@juliet.emu.st) > wrote: > > > > 26 exchanges, that's absolutely insane, thanks for that Evan! >

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

stolen Moore solved Bronze sculpture worth £3m melted down and sold off as scrap On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 17:09, andrew clarke wrote: > On Wed 2019-08-21 04:19:55 UTC+, Mark Delany

Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

Wilkins On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 10:17, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I think this is germane to the mail list for the following reasons: > > 1 - IF there is an obvious correlation between Au resident DCs with East > West running cabinet rows and higher failure rates rather than North South >

Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

elsewhere. Thirdly, it may mean you get to extend the useful life of drive arrays, which will give capital and operational economies. If there's no obvious correlation, the only cost is some argument over noise on the list. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 08:45, andrew khoo wrote

Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

vertical mounting. Though I've yet to hear anyone asking what's your latitude before they proceed to build a data centre or installing your vertical disks arrays to be north axis aligned. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 16:31, Mark Smith wrote: > How is this related to netw

Re: [AusNOG] Moving equipment from Singapore to Sydney

How do you manage risk on such a move? vs someone internal with systems + local knowledge? Hard disks can travel as carry on. On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 10:15, Mark Anthony Delfin wrote: > Hi All, > > We have some newish gear(Total 16 RU, 11 - Server, 5 - network gear) that > we are exploring to

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Exchange Access (Break-in's)

Yet more concerning is the vulnerability of exchanges to unauthorised entry, and where there's been no damage, no one's made aware of the security breach... On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 14:09, Nathan Brookfield < nathan.brookfi...@simtronic.com.au> wrote: > 26 exchanges, that’s absolutely insane,

Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

a factor eventually, though maybe not necessarily in our lifetime. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 19:59, Peter Betyounan < peter.betyou...@serversaustralia.com.au> wrote: > Easy solution , move to all flash, predicable failures and wear. > > Tue, 20 Aug at

[AusNOG] [AUSNOG] Disk wear & Foucault Period

, or Darwin x3. Kind regards Paul Wilkins ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

f safeguards in the TIA Act. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 at 14:56, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Report in the Guardian today of judicial and governance experts > increasingly concerned Australia is stifling journalism and State > accountability playing the security trump card.

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

period*, despite cost-recovery mechanisms being in place. This gets more interesting still, when you begin to consider the substantially more expensive and complex TCNs/TANs. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 11:50, Paul Wilkins wrote: > This enquiry has data retention back in

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

This enquiry has data retention back in the news, that and recent AFP execution of search warrants on journalists. Link to PJCIS submissions <https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Dataretentionregime/Submissions> Kind regards Paul W

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

, or something. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 11:26, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I raised the point in my PJCIS submissions regarding the Assistance and > Access Act, that TANs/TCNs are potentially sufficient grounds to serve as > authorisation under s280/s313 of the Telecommunica

Re: [AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

rge numbers makes this unlikely. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 23:32, Tom Paseka wrote: > Timely presentation from Netflix On this exact topic. > https://ripe78.ripe.net/archives/video/128/ > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:52 AM Tom Paseka wrote: > >> ev

Re: [AusNOG] Office365 Exchange Security contact

Martin, Just so we're all on the same page, email routing is never directly related to IP allocations, it's MX bound if properly standards compliant. And if the canonical MX record is directing to the alternate customer, the problem lies with DNS not email. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 21

Re: [AusNOG] Building manager refuses entry to MDF

The premise of the national $50/$75/$100bn investment in the NBN was so that we could have a free market in retail supply. If that access is subject to restrictive practices, that's a question for the ACCC. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 14:54, Evan Dent wrote: > The f

Re: [AusNOG] Building manager refuses entry to MDF

enforcement. Of course you can bill the body corporate, and see how they react. The people whose preserve this is is the ACCC. I'd write them (not call) a letter, who knows, they may take a view which they're prepared to enforce. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 13:42, Matt Perkins

Re: [AusNOG] FTTC

be acceptable. Unfortunately the national data carriage that NBN was supposed to deliver remains invisible. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 09:59, Philip Loenneker < philip.loenne...@tasmanet.com.au> wrote: > Apparently the co-contribution installation cost will not exceed $5000, &

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business - known issues??

. One minor possibility, Telstra migrating services to use carrier NAT, so services that once had fixed IPs might no longer do. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 12:18, Ross Wheeler wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019, Jacob Taylor wrote: > > > It's a p

Re: [AusNOG] Fwd: PJCIS: REVIEW OF THE MANDATORY DATA RETENTION REGIME, INVITATION TO MAKE A SUBMISSION

for law enforcement to institute access to metadata datastreams. I had thought with the election announced, there'd be some respite from this rinse/repeat cycle of calling for public submissions. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 12

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

Thread out. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 12:03, wrote: > OK… > > > > Tin Eye is for image recognition, not video and it’s more concerned with > duplication… > > From a quick read of their site, it doesn’t appear to be a neural network > or AI… &g

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

sets a standard above recklessness for hosting providers. Likely required under the act for social media but not for hosting providers. Make it a condition of terms of use, and the issue goes away, imo. I am not a lawyer. This is not expert advice. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 10 Apr 2019

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

ng less, and company directors haven't done their due diligence. I am not a lawyer. This is not expert advice. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 09:32, Bruce Forster wrote: > I'd argue that whenever gov.co sticks its fingers into tech on any level > the outcome is never a

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

whack a mole chasing content specific to each hosting provider. That's their obligation, and I somehow think they'll be reluctant to go there. I'm not a lawyer. This isn't expert opinion. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 14:02, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I'm not s

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

whatsoever for the provision of carriage alone. I'm not a lawyer. This isn't expert opinion. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 09:50, Narelle Clark wrote: > > There are good third party clearing houses for some of this stuff. Whether > it's cost effective or appropri

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

person ; or (f) kidnaps another person . Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 12:31, Karl Auer wrote: > On Mon, 2019-04-08 at 11:55 +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > There should be little cost to service providers in implementing take > > down notices. Video

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

on the other hand, is at worst a distraction, but rather looks like the government doing what they're supposed to do. I can't see Voltaire going to the barricades to protect people's rights to propagate murder videos. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 18:35, Chad Kelly wrote

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

disturbed, 4chan, and others. The bill explicitly excludes provision of carriage as grounds for being considered a content provider. So the bill can't actually be used to ban dark net, regrettable though that may be. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 12:38, Serge Burjak wrote: > V

Re: [AusNOG] More legislative interventions

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/s1201_first-senate/toc_pdf/1908121.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 10:57, Simon Sharwood wrote: > So I was in a thing yesterday with a very senior government relations > person from one of the top 3 clouds. And

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

to overwhelming opposition by the public, industry, and human rights groups? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 10:22, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportjnt/024269/toc_pdf/ReviewoftheTelecommunicationsandOtherLegislationAme

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportjnt/024269/toc_pdf/ReviewoftheTelecommunicationsandOtherLegislationAmendment(AssistanceandAccess)Act2018.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 13:35, Paul Wilkins wrote: > It's a curious move for the PJCIS to re

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra multiple service faults - Chatswood Exchange?

twork edges. Multiple high capacity ( Nx10G) links are configured as active/ backup – so any router or link failure along the path triggers failover without impacting cloud connectivity." https://cloud.telstra.com/res/pdf/cloud-gateway-technical-guide-international.pdf Kind regards Pa

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

, and the Dep't of Home Affairs haven't been sufficient to produce workable law, then what hope the INSLM? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 19:05, Robert Hudson wrote: > 404 for the page on the ACS website.. > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 12:40, Aftab Siddiqui > wrote: > >&

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

grounded in evidence. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 10:52, Paul Brooks wrote: > On 28/03/2019 5:29 pm, Peter Fern wrote: > > On 28/3/19 12:33 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote: > >> The silence on the Assistance and Access Act since it passed in > December ha

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

the Labor amendements, while the country's police forces now operate with sweeping interception powers well beyond what's necessary and proportional. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 12:03, Paul Wilkins wrote: > ACIC in their submission seem to be making the case, that as police

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

. Further, the amount of damage the police can do on a magical mystery tour of your data centre is contained. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 13:27, Robert Hudson wrote: > The government said they'd consider them, not that they'd implement them. > > I have very little fai

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

powers. It would be a serious breach of faith for the government to renege on the outstanding amendments. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 13:24, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Paul Wilkins wrote: > > Obviously this has been in limbo over the Christmas break. There's 2 &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

had received from PJCIS 10/12 was call for submissions was yet to be determined. I've posted a support ticket so hopefully we'll see an update to the main page: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6195 Kind regards Paul Wilkins

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Parliament resumes 12th February. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 11:44, Paul Wilkins wrote: > I guess we should anticipate that the PJCIS will ask for further > submissions. Probably they will give as little advance warning as possible > to conform to their "accelerated

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Gateway Pro DSL modem issues?

1 - Does customer know how to save config to non volatile storage? 2 - Update firmware (shellshock etc.) & change credentials / disable remote access 3 - Replace hardware (failed flash storage) Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Narelle Clark wrote: > Hi folks >

Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety

oxygen in the room is reduced by 3%. Along >>> with the fact that such a composition of the air is not sufficient to >>> continue the fire, it allows people who are there to breathe. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM Chris

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

comments or other concerns. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 09:29, I wrote: > GCHQ is going for the same thing > > https://www.lawfareblog.com/principles-more-informed-exceptional-access-debate > ___ > Aus

[AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety

rdo-station-ross-island>, I find myself wondering yet again, why there aren't more stringent controls around the fire suppression systems in data centres: viz - when you enter a data centre, how confident can you be you're not going to be quietly asphyxiated? Kind regards Paul W

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

, 12 Dec 2018 at 12:39, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/amend/r6195_amend_96ffec08-558c-4ff9-9448-0a18c21cf1c7/upload_pdf/8627%20CW%20Telecommunications%20and%20Other%20Legislation%20Amendment%20(Assistance%20and%20Access)%20Bill%202018%20Wo

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

nt for a warrant to have been issued - the whole point of a TCN is > to preemptively create a capability that can be exploited later, on the off > chance there will be a future warrant that requires the exploit to be > triggered. > > Paul. > > On 12/12/2018 12:02 pm, Paul Wilk

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

and constructive debate of the Bill's provisions, rather than what's been a rather ugly object lesson in playing cynical politics which has damaged the reputation of Australia's ICT industry. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 12:02, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Matt, (II

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Matt, (IINAL) But it appears on my reading that both 317ZG and more specifically the new 317ZGA would arguably prohibit this. The (pending?) amendments are worth a read. Stronger terms on 317ZG and importantly - *requirement for judicial approval of TCNs*. 317P (5)(2)(d) the designated

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

the Reps (no, I haven't checked all 173 :) Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 17:46, Karl Auer wrote: > On Tue, 2018-12-11 at 17:31 +1100, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > It's very much active law. > > Oh :-( > > Well, in that case I was misinformed, and I apolo

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Act 2018 Assented to 8 December 2018 It's very much active law. Includes 173 Government amendments moved in the Reps. On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 17:26, Paul Brooks

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

t; Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 12:25, Robert Hudson wrote: > I think the thought that the government would even consider the amendments > now that the bill is passed is, at best, wishful thinking, no matter what > the PJCIS says (and in fact, I'm sure DOHA and

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

PJCIS are continuing their work and will report on the amendments *3 April 2019*. They are yet to determine if they will seek public comment on the amendments. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 11:07, Noel Butler wrote: > On 08/12/2018 09:00, Paul Wilkins wr

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

hey have no clue on how > reality actually works, this bill is one of the most bone headed bills in > recent years ^H^H^H^H^H weeks^H^H^H^H^H days^H^H^H^H … never mind… > > > > --Jim. > > > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *Paul > Wilkins > *S

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

a complete overhaul of it's scope and objectives?* Mostly because of Dep't Home Affairs intransigence, and of course, the only reason we've been fortunate to have the Bill amended at all, let's not forget, is due to the Liberals losing control of the Reps. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Dec 201

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

"If "there is a need for these powers over the Christmas period," then that ship has sailed. Too late, they needed to pass it in September." Apparently change freezes also apply to national security :) On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 17:33, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Just chec

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Just checked, and cyber stalking qualifies as it has 3 year max sentence. On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 17:21, Paul Wilkins wrote: > To get a TAN approved, you'll need: > >- to be an interception agency >- to have your TAN approved by the AFP >- the investigation must

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 17:00, Robert Hudson wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Dec. 2018, 4:20 pm Paul Wilkins >> The original 172 page Bill was so obviously deficient in so many areas, >> it was easier to just say the Bill should be thrown out in its entirety and >&g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

ke a sensible working position from which to move forward from, while ensuring security services get the powers they say they have an immediate need for. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 13:48, Mark Newton wrote: > > > On 12/05/2018 11:48 AM, Paul Wilkins wrote: > &g

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

ote that judicial oversight is still completely lacking... > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:40 AM Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> Some sensible amendments. >> >> Recommendation 4 >> The Committee recommends that the Bill be amended to incorporate >> recommendations

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

legislation by 3 April 2019* On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 11:20, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > PJCIS have released a unanimous report > <http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/committees/reportjnt/024247/toc_pdf/AdvisoryReportontheTelecommunicationsandOtherLegislationAmendment(AssistanceandAccess)

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

PJCIS have released a unanimous report , recommending Bill be passed with their

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

industry. This has obvious economic repercussions. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 23:59, Reuben Farrelly wrote: > On 5/12/2018 8:33 am, Nick Stallman wrote: > > Also does this mean that the custom firmware for one or a handful of > > targets is not a systemic weaknes

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Motion for 2nd hearing in Lower House. On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 23:59, Reuben Farrelly wrote: > On 5/12/2018 8:33 am, Nick Stallman wrote: > > Also does this mean that the custom firmware for one or a handful of > > targets is not a systemic weakness, but if (when) the custom firmware > > leaks

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Robert Hudson wrote: > If Australia passes this into law, we become the source of data for the > others. We just do the dirty work for them. > > Why have a dog and do your own barking? Why spy on your citizens when > Australia can do it for you? > > On Wed, 5 Dec. 2018, 1

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Media_Releases> 28 Nov, they would hear evidence from security agencies as to the urgency of the Bill. Push meets shove? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 11:16, Paul Wilkins wrote: > This morning I don't know what to think. > > Somehow a co

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

of evidence. How you avoid a dozen different agencies all kicking in the doors on data centres without stepping on each others toes is an exercise for the reader. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 15:31, Mark Smith wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 11:17, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

constructive to say. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 14:38, Mark Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 13:17, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > > > > “We have said we are willing to pass a bill by Thursday, which gives > appropriate powers, these powers, to nati

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

pport, the Bill can't proceed. The Liberal's are too invested to compromise, and they need this in play only for the politics. So 50/50 the Bill is sunk, or we get ASIO/AFP powers, a sunset clause, and a considered bill somewhere down the track. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 13:00,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

encies access to encrypted telecommunications On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 11:39, I wrote: > Paul Wilkins wrote: > Parliamentary Calendar > <https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/About_the_House_News/This_week_in_the_House> > is showing the Bill listed for

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report will be ready by then is yet to be seen. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 10:46, I wrote: > Other good points made on Friday were that products made here (physical > and intellectual) would be regarded as inferior because it would be unknown > whether they

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

is a huge gain in terms of reduced security impacts of the legislation, and realistically, I'm not sure the Bill can be blocked in its entirety. I've always said I support the extension of judicial writ to the cyber realm, and I see no reason to alter that position. Kind regards Paul Wilkins

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, "first they came for the terrorists and child abusers" said no one ever. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 15:10, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Hastie, Senator Bushby, Julian Leeser, Jim Molan, some pretty > disappointing stuff from them all this morning. For shits and gi

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Hastie, Senator Bushby, Julian Leeser, Jim Molan, some pretty disappointing stuff from them all this morning. For shits and giggles, you can read the proceedings and where PJCIS members ask questions, try to guess their political alignment from the questions asked. Kind regards Paul Wilkins

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will be back with a TAN to compel compliance. I go through this in excruciating detail in my supplementary submission, which is now up on the PJCIS website. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 16:48, Paul Brooks wrote: > On 28/11/2018 3:42 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > &

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

obtained evidence would still be admissable). Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:05, Paul Brooks wrote: > On 28/11/2018 10:27 am, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > > I do think (and it's not a generally popular position) that the internet > does need to, and is goin

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

establishing the machinery of a police state. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 13:43, Mark Smith wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:29, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > > --- paulwilkins...@gmail.com wrote: > > From: Paul Wilkins > > &

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itizen rights compared to Europe. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 08:56, Mark Newton wrote: > Their real target is the same as it was in the 2008-2010 censorware fight: > > They want to make it clear that this is not territory which is > unregulated; that they can

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

of interference with PJCIS doing its job. With Julia Banks' announcement she will move to the crossbenches, I will take plenty of 6 to 4 against Dutton (MP?) getting his way and passing the Assistance and Access Bill before Christmas. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 09:52, Michelle

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If Dutton is in fact ineligible to sit, then so too is his motion to introduce the Bill to Parliament. Or such is the stuff of dreams? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Seems Dutton is about to get a lesson in constitutional law: > > S44 (i

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of the House of Representatives. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 10:34, Paul Wilkins wrote: > > After the Department Home Affairs sitting on this Bill for over a year and > conducting industry consultation they claim is confidential (ie: they have > no one who'll

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in the context of rising use of encryption. Rising use of encryption is hardly news to anyone. After all, a rising tide lifts all boats. https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=a46f0ed4-fc0d-4e95-bbd3-ef8fafe419ab=663130 Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 13:56, Paul Wilkins

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ses, liability rests, not with the Crown as you might ingenuously assume, but with the carrier who unwittingly acted as directed. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 06:38, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- > ...the drafting certainly seems loose enough for a fut

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for the foreseeable future. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:17, Paul Wilkins wrote: > s/Fourth Amendment > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:15, Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> It's a very good question how, when anyone who knows what they're talking >

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s/Fourth Amendment On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:15, Paul Wilkins wrote: > It's a very good question how, when anyone who knows what they're talking > about opposes the Bill > as an effective and reasonable approach to fighting terrorism and serious > crime in the context of in

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instead of a sensible public discussion of how to enable legal intercept for encrypted communications, we're getting the Liberal Trumpists using the Bill as a blunt object to wedge Labor on terrorism and that's all that matters. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 17:21, Mark Smith

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administering it, and they are more likely to want to pass their own rather than have to deal with the Human Rights gaps, mass surveillance implications, technical anomalies, and broken multi agency framework. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:48, Paul Brooks wrote: > Forget Hu

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government... > [image: VentraIP Australia logo] > > > *Bradley Silverman*Technical Operations \\ VentraIP Australia > *M: *+61 418 641 103 | *P:* +61 3 9013 8464 | ventraip.com.au > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:17 AM Paul Wilkins > wrote: > >> I can't agre

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, with differently aligned cross benchers. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 22:44, Bryan O'Reilly wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > > I’m looking forward to your Lunchtime Lecture next week on this topic! > > > > Kind regards, > > Bryan O'Reilly > Fo

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of the mark or so cynical. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 04:15, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 18:12, Christian Heinrich > wrote: > > > https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/victoria-police-arrest-three-people-allegedly-pla

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- Why has the government of the day referred this deeply flawed Bill to the PJCIS, PJCHR, and the SSCSB, for review wasting public time and money, rather than sending it back to Dep't Home Affairs for a complete overhaul of it's scope and objectives? Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Sat, 17 Nov 2018

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