Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-06 Thread Kalani N
in Ireland. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity From: Antonio Faria antoni...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 10

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-06 Thread Antonio Faria
Hi Dano, I wasn't referring to church law just providing an example where the incest taboo was exempt, the Hawaiian example came to mind. I am fascinated by their culture but incest among the elite did exist. I haven't read the book by James Michener or seen the movie but I suspect that it is

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-06 Thread Dano
degree like maybe 3rd degree. And I have seen many examples of wealthy families on Terceira like this, as well. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread Antonio Faria
The incest taboo among siblings has been exempt among royalty of various cultures throughout history, one example being the royal Hawaiian families in fact it was encouraged they believe such unions produces superiors specimens. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 8:57:25 AM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
church in Ireland.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity From: Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 10:40 am To: azores

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread Dano
Anthony, I admit that Church Law was flouted on a few occasions, mostly in England, but the Church dealt with that harshly, as evidenced by the establishment of the Inquisition. Europe was the Church's domain for the better part of the last millennium.The Church takes its laws very seriously.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread John Raposo
For what it is worth, in all of my experience researching Azorean genealogy, I have never found a marriage among siblings, not even among half-siblings. I have found marriages between uncle and niece and aunt and nephew, rare in number, but existing nevertheless. Incest is defined within a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread mances
i have seen in old baptism records in Relva the mention of coitus damnatus. Manoel Em sábado, 5 de abril de 2014 20h04min20s UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu: For what it is worth, in all of my experience researching Azorean genealogy, I have never found a marriage among siblings, not even among

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread Herb
I have never seen a first degree but I have seen lots of 4th, 3rd and second. Need to keep a few things in mind though. During the 18th and 19th centuries in Europe about 40% of marriages were among cousins. During someone's lifetime they might have travelled 20-30 miles from their home so they

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread John Vasconcelos
Rome because of it and it forced many changes about 1000 years ago in the Catholic church in Ireland. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity

2014-04-05 Thread pico
Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: first degree of consanguinity From: Herb herbandj...@verizon.net Date: Sat, April 05, 2014 7:40 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I have never seen a first degree but I have seen lots of 4th, 3rd and second. Need to keep a few things in mind