You're partly right. I believe that the proper term you're looking for is a
"dispensation" which is requested by the party (s) involved; it usually takes
the form of an "indulgence" resulting from performing a certain "penance"
suggested by the priest in confession, and, certain contributions fo
Something in the back of my head says that there were fees, but I can't for
the life of me remember where I learned that. Or if I'm applying it to the
wrong instance.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada
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lighten us about this happening to their ancestors. Maybe it was mentioned in some history book.Good old corruption in all its many facets...Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com
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I assume these folks had to pay an indulgence (is that the correct word?) to
the local
; were 20 or more years apart.
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> As usual, most of them are from Pico and Terceira, since that's where I
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his sister is prohibited by civil and cannon law.
John Miranda Raposo
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I know Eloise Cadinha has found an uncle/niece or
o 101. Her brother lived
> into his 90s. Another brother was in his 80s, I believe.
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Cheri,1st degree of consanguinity: Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. Rare.This is called 1st and 2nd degree.First degree would never be allowed, because that's siblings marrying each other - except in Eastern Kentucky... :-)I have one where he married his mother-in-law. They had no children.
I know Eloise Cadinha has found an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. I
can't remember which.
1st degree of consanguinity: Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. Rare.
2nd degree of consanguinity: 1st cousins marrying.
3rd degree of consanguinity: 2nd cousins marrying.
4th degree of consanguinity
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I keep reading about cousins marring, but are there any recorded uncle and niece marriage. I know this happened, at least in my family. I c
I have a grandfather marrying his granddaughter. It was in the 1880s and did
surprise me!
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Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 1:55 pm
sI don't
> know.
>
> I read that Flores has the highest incidence of Machado Joseph disease
> found among the Azorean people and it is attributed to the frequency of
> inbreeding. Sometimes things are oksometimes not.
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> Nancy Jean
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...I don't know.
I read that Flores has the highest incidence of Machado Joseph disease found
among the Azorean people and it is attributed to the frequency of inbreeding.
Sometimes things are oksometimes not.
Nancy Jean
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 13:42:28 -0700
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Doug,
Cousin Marriages are common on Flores because it is such a small Island. I
have cousin marriages on both sides of my family tree. If the genes are
good, superior decendants can be produced. I have some first cousins on my
father's side that married. One of their children married the child of
Doug,
We call that double first cousins here.
My dad's Portuguese grandparents were double first cousins. I know Carol
(Silva) Warnock of this list has the same thing in her tree. I'm sure
there are others. All 4 of the offspring from my dad's grandparents were
just fine. One was killed by a d
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