[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread David Perry
Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. The comments regarding the French influence are quite interesting. I have a number of Sao Miguel ancestors from the town of Vila Franca do Campo (I think that's correct) which translates to French Camp. Why would anyone name a town French

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread MaryAnn Santos
Thank you, Herb, that very enlightening! MaryAnn On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hi David I was born in Sao Miguel and still speak Portuguese with the Sao Miguel accent. It sounds absolutely nothing like Brazilian Portuguese pronunciation. Its like

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread PatGirard
I recently spent a day in Sao Miguel on a cruise. I speak very little Portuguese, but growing up the Portuguese that I did learn was from my Sao Miguel relatives. I hired a tour guide, recommended by George Pacheco, and had a fabulous time. The point is: while practicing my Portuguese

[AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread rose . zbyzenski
My great grandmother died in 1953, when I was 5, said name was Caton. Filomema Polycena. Said her parents were from Flores. Her mother was pregnant with her, one of 14?. Went to Mass., then Ashland area of Bay Area because other family/friends lived there. Somewhere around turn of the century,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread Eliseu Pacheco
Hi, If you want to translate FRANCA, Vila Franca do Campo, the translation would be tax free village! Eliseu Pacheco da Silva No dia 14/07/2013, às 13:56, David Perry djperr...@sbcglobal.net escreveu: Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. The comments regarding the French

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread Isabella Baltar
I'm Brazilian and so my Portuguese is from Brazil, where I lived most of my life. Brazil is almost as big as US, having several different accents as we have here in US if you go from N to S or E to W. I have been to Portugal and to Azores (Terceira) and I never had a problem communicating

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread pico
About education, I think you will notice what I have noticed - it depends on the family wealth.That is at least until schooling became more enforced in the latter 1800s. Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
OK. A start. Here they are in the 1910 census Family126 - County Road, Washington, Alameda County CA Manuel A. Harvey 37 b. abt. 1873 Portugal, married 6 years, 2 children born 2 children living, to US abt. 1900, farmer wife: Polcena Harvey 21 b. abt. 1889 CA ch: Helen 4 b. abt. 1906 CA

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pronunciation, Lisbon vs. Sao Miguel Portuguese

2013-07-14 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Isabella, * *For the most part, I agree with most of what you said. I now can understand just about any Portuguese speaking person so much so that when I hear someone speaking on the radio, I sometimes have to think is that a Brazilian or an Azorean? But it took time. It WAS a problem

[AZORES-Genealogy] Matos in Praia do Norte, Faial

2013-07-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Nell, Does anyone have Angelica Francisca da Silveira (Matos) born in Praia do Norte, Faial in 1898 in their line? She was my grandmother, and i'm interested if anyone knows from what part of the world her ancestors were from. She and her sister were both large, big-boned women,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
I believe this is Filomena's birth record: No first name given Caton female b. 2/20/1890 Provincetown MA father: Manuel Caton fisherman b. Pico Azores mother: Philomena (nee Constance) b. Faial, Azores What do you think? These parents also had these children: Unnamed Female Caton b.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread Shirley Allegre
Food for thought. I was born and raised in Washington TOWNSHIP. There are several towns in Washington Township. I believe they were: Decoto, Alvarado, Niles, Centerville (the center of Washington Township), Mission San Jose, Irvington, Newark, AND I think Milpitas. Sam: Was Milpitas in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
You can see a lot more here including marriages.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread Sam Koester
No, I don't believe Milpitas was in Washington Township but; I'm pretty sure Warm Springs was. Sam in Calif. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shirley Allegre Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:20 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread Shirley Allegre
Okay thanks. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Sam Koester To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
1880 US Census Name: Manuel Caton Event Type: Census Event Date: 1880 Event Place:Provincetown, Barnstable, Massachusetts, United States Gender: Male Age: 38 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Sailor Race (Original): W Ethnicity: American Relationship to Head of Household: Self Birthplace: Azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
Sorry for numerous emails...but search is not so easy. Sure hope this is them??? This is it for while till I know I have the right family..E Name:Manuel CatonEvent Type:Marriage Birth Date:abt 1840Marriage Date:19 Jan 1865Marriage Place:Provincetown, MassachusettsMarriage

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread Tish M
Shirley, I don't know if you are interested but there is a free ebook on the internet on the History of Washington Township you might be interested in viewing. History of Washington Township, Alameda County, California

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] caton or caetano to ashland area, bay area from Flores, then Mass., Also Garcia, Alvernaz or Harvey.

2013-07-14 Thread E Sharp
One more before turning in: *Name:* Manuel Francis Caton *Birth:* 26 Dec 1839 in Pico, Azores *Death:* 24 Feb 1918 in Provincetown, Massachusetts Provincetown Advocate, 28 Feb 1918 Manuel Francis Caton died Sunday February 24th at his Bangs' street home, aged 78 years, 1 month and 29 days. He