Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unusual Translation Request - Death Manoel de Mattos Pereira

[Tony Amarant]

G'day Linda.

You are a flam'n legend. Thanks so much for taking the time out to assist me.

Kindest regards, Tony


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of linda 

Sent: Friday, 31 January 2020 10:28 AM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unusual Translation Request - Death Manoel de 
Mattos Pereira

Hi Tony,

This is what I can make out:

transcription:

 Em os quinze dias do mez de Jan.ro do anno
de mil sete centos quarenta e dous [???ou?] da vida
presente com todos os Sacramentos Manoel de Mattos
Per.a casado com Maria Sylv.ra natural e freguez des
ta ig.ra Parochial de S. Barbara Lugar das Manadas
tendo de id.e setenta (sesenta??) annos pouco mais ou menos
fez testamento em que deixou por testament.?o a seu
f.o Fran.co deMattos, e di??os que seria seu corpo em
volto em hum habito de piCote do ? S. Fran.co
acompanhado de sua casa a sepultura dos Parochos
desta ig.ra com todas as  que por sua alma
se diziam sincoenta miSsaS  resadas de cujo n.o [?deriao
dez de tencao e?] aSsim mais as sinco das [chagas?]
a hum annal de responsos e hum officio presente
o Corpo e nao di??os mais [
na forma que d
ig.ra das -- fiz este
termo que asina mez e?? era ut supro

translation:

On the 15th day of the month of January of the year
of 1742 [departed] from present life
having had all the Sacraments Manuel de Mattos
Pereira married to Maria Sylveira native and resident of
this parochial church of Santa Barbara locality of Manadas
having the age of seventy [possibly sixty??] years more or less
[he] made a will in which he left as [his beneficiary?] his
son Francisco de Mattos, and [he said/directed??] for his body to be
wrapped in a picote [a type of fabric] habit  [of the order??] of S. Francisco
[and] accompanied from his house to the grave of the parishioners
of this church with all the ? that for his soul
... fifty masses... prayers..
.
.



church of  I made this
document which I signed [and dated?] era ut supro




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's place of Birth

[Tony Matthews]

Just a small point regarding the naming of the Sandwich Islands.  Capt James 
Cook discovered them in January 1778 and named them after the Earl of Sandwich. 
Captain Cook was British and explored the both Pacific & Atlantic making many 
maps of lands previously unknown at that time.  Rosemary is right about the 
Azores being called the Western Islands, this persisted until the late 1800’s 
according to some official papers concerning my ancestor from the Azores! Tony

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 09:21
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's place of Birth

Leonor, it does say Isla de Sandwich which is what the Hawaiian Islands were 
known as because they were 'discovered' by the Earl of Sandwich.  The Azores 
Islands were known as the 'Western Islands' in the USA for a long time. When I 
was first starting to do my research I thought it meant Hawaii,that's West of 
California, right?! Never assume, that should be everones motto. 
Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:57 AM  wrote:
I just searched it and it's a name that was given to Hawaii..I had never 
heard or seen this before.

On Wednesday, 6 March 2019 13:55:10 UTC-5, leonor@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone please tell me if this says "natural das Ilhas de Sandwich"? If so, 
does anybody know where that is? If not, can someone please correct me!

Thanks.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1906-1911/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1906-1911_item1/P168.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[Tony]

looking forward to it. avil...@reagan.com

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>
> Send ne your email so that we can trade information. Antonia married 
> August Frietas first in Hawaii and than married Manuel Pavao. I was told 
> that Manuel came from Sao Miguel. 
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:30:56 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:
>>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> What a happy coincidence!
>> Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my 
>> great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
>> Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii. 
>> She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão is 
>> the son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from Livramento.
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
>>> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at 
>>> both places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and 
>>> Emilia 3/4.
>>>
>>> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
>>> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
>>> Livramento
>>> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
>>> Luz
>>> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
>>> On the Abergeldie
>>>
>>> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>>>
>>> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>>>
>>> Good luck! Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao 
>>>> and Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and 
>>>> islands 
>>>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
>>>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[Tony]

Send ne your email so that we can trade information. Antonia married August 
Frietas first in Hawaii and than married Manuel Pavao. I was told that 
Manuel came from Sao Miguel. 

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 11:30:56 AM UTC-7, mances wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> What a happy coincidence!
> Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my 
> great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
> Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii. 
> She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão is 
> the son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from Livramento.
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
>
>
>
> Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
> escreveu:
>>
>> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
>> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at both 
>> places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and Emilia 
>> 3/4.
>>
>> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
>> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
>> Livramento
>> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
>> Luz
>> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
>> On the Abergeldie
>>
>> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>>
>> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>>
>> Good luck! Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao and 
>>> Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and islands 
>>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
>>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[Tony]

Thanks for your help. I will work on it today.

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 6:06:50 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at both 
> places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and Emilia 
> 3/4.
>
> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
> Livramento
> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
> Luz
> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
> On the Abergeldie
>
> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>
> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>
> Good luck! Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao and 
>> Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and islands 
>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[Tony]

Avila76 is me. I do have a lot of information but not where she was 
actually born. Getting quite frustrated at this time. I really appreciate 
the help in this. 

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:37:21 PM UTC-7, Edward wrote:
>
> Tony
> On Ancestry there is a person avila76 that list your Agnes Pavao (Peacock) 
> in their tree. The person has a lot of documentation to support the facts. 
> Only problem is They say both Hilo Hawaii and Calif. Census says Calif, 
> Death certificate says Calif Social Security application says Hilo Hawaii. 
> I believe its Calif because her brother (Luiz, Louis ,Lewis ) which was 
> older in 1892  was born in Calif. Hope this helps
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Tony wrote:
>
> My Grandmother always told us that she was born on Hilo Hawaii. I have 
> tired for a long time to find out for sure and have not been able to do so. 
> Her names was Agnes Pavao,born in 1895. Her father was Manuel Pavao and 
> mother Antonia Martins (Frietas) When she was married to August Frietas 
> they had a daughter named Mary born in 1889. Mr Frietas died and she 
> married Manuel Pavao which was my Great Grandfather. I know she was in 
> Oakland in 1908 because that is when she married my Grandfather. I have 
> their marriage License. Yes, she got married at thirteen,if that was her 
> real age at the time. If there is anyone out there that may be able to help 
> it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Tony
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[Tony]

My Grandmother always told us that she was born on Hilo Hawaii. I have 
tired for a long time to find out for sure and have not been able to do so. 
Her names was Agnes Pavao,born in 1895. Her father was Manuel Pavao and 
mother Antonia Martins (Frietas) When she was married to August Frietas 
they had a daughter named Mary born in 1889. Mr Frietas died and she 
married Manuel Pavao which was my Great Grandfather. I know she was in 
Oakland in 1908 because that is when she married my Grandfather. I have 
their marriage License. Yes, she got married at thirteen,if that was her 
real age at the time. If there is anyone out there that may be able to help 
it would be greatly appreciated.

Tony

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Priest in Terceira

[Tony]

Thanks for your help. Any information would be appreciated.

On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 7:59:55 PM UTC-7, linda wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> My family was from Santa Barbara.  I can ask an octagenarian I know from 
> the village (now living in California) if he recalls your great uncle and 
> aunt. What sort of info are you interested in?
>
> Graves in the cemeteries of the islands are reused periodically, so your 
> relative's remains are likely to have been moved.  My grandmother, a native 
> of Santa Barbara, died there in 1968/9.  By the time I visited in about 
> 1986, she had already given up her place for someone more recently 
> deceased.  But, it's possible the graves are still marked.
>
> let me know if I can help,
>
> Linda
>
>   
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2016 at 6:50:46 PM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>>
>> My Great Uncle was a Priest in Terceira. His name was Father Henrique de 
>> Sousa Avila. A native of the parish of Santa Barbara. He died in 1968. His 
>> final resting place was Rua Cinco de Outubro,a parish of Conceicao, Angra. 
>> He had a blind sister named Amelia. The cemetery that he was buried is 
>> Livramento of Angra. I was wondering if there is anyone who may remember 
>> them or if it is possible to get a picture of their graves?
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Priest in Terceira

[Tony]

My Great Uncle was a Priest in Terceira. His name was Father Henrique de 
Sousa Avila. A native of the parish of Santa Barbara. He died in 1968. His 
final resting place was Rua Cinco de Outubro,a parish of Conceicao, Angra. 
He had a blind sister named Amelia. The cemetery that he was buried is 
Livramento of Angra. I was wondering if there is anyone who may remember 
them or if it is possible to get a picture of their graves?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding family

[Tony Matthews]

Hello Flora, Thanks for your enquiry I'd be very interested in what you have to 
say. Tony Matthews
 


 From: Flora Ramos ferrazroots2...@yahoo.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding family
  


Hi Tony, if you can give me your private e-mail I have a few questions.  
Flora (Ferraiz)  Ramos
ferrazroots2...@yahoo.com
 
 
From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony 
Matthews
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:10 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding family
 
Hello everyone. Every day I look at other peoples successes  wonder if I too 
could have a little luck! I am looking for anything regarding my gt 
grandfather. I am hoping the following people are  related to me. The 
information has been accessed from;
Massachusetts Town  Vital Records 1620-1988..
Francis Joseph
Birth Date About 1834
Event Marriage
Event City Boston
Marriage date 22nd Jan 1863
Marrige Age 29
Father Name Antonio
Mother Name Mary
Spouse Name Mary Silva
Spouse Marriage Age 22
Spouse Father Name Antonio Silva
Spouse Mother Name Mary
I really want to know what happened to the newly married couple subsequently. 
Did the marriage last? Did he go to sea and be never heard of again? Did they 
get divorced?
I have some reason to believe Francis Joseph is my gt grandfather because of 
his age  the names of his parents. If it is, he arrived in New Zealand about 
1864 and in 1883 when he married claimed he was a widower. I have exhausted all 
NZ Govt files  unfortunately the oldest Catholic in his NZ home town had 100 
years of church records destroyed by fire. So here I am stuck!! I can be 
e-mailed privately. Thanks for any help. Tony  
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] re enquiry Francis Joseph married to Mary Silva, Boston 1863

[Tony Matthews]

Flora Ramos was kind enough to email me privately however I have been unable to 
respond to her as her email address is incorrect.
I'd be obliged if Flora could respond again with a current email address. 
Thanks, Tony Matthews

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Finding family

[Tony Matthews]

Hello everyone. Every day I look at other peoples successes  wonder if I too 
could have a little luck! I am looking for anything regarding my gt 
grandfather. I am hoping the following people are  related to me. The 
information has been accessed from;
Massachusetts Town  Vital Records 1620-1988..
Francis Joseph
Birth Date About 1834
Event Marriage
Event City Boston
Marriage date 22nd Jan 1863
Marrige Age 29
Father Name Antonio
Mother Name Mary
Spouse Name Mary Silva
Spouse Marriage Age 22
Spouse Father Name Antonio Silva
Spouse Mother Name Mary
I really want to know what happened to the newly married couple subsequently. 
Did the marriage last? Did he go to sea and be never heard of again? Did they 
get divorced?
I have some reason to believe Francis Joseph is my gt grandfather because of 
his age  the names of his parents. If it is, he arrived in New Zealand about 
1864 and in 1883 when he married claimed he was a widower. I have exhausted all 
NZ Govt files  unfortunately the oldest Catholic in his NZ home town had 100 
years of church records destroyed by fire. So here I am stuck!! I can be 
e-mailed privately. Thanks for any help. Tony  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part of Portugal

[Tony Rodrigues]

You said it pal,I have even had them spell it rodriquez,  when my son went to 
school, the teacher told him he would spell it rodriguez, needless to say I 
straightened her out.




From: p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part of Portugal



One my favorite beefs is for RODRIGUES.

People often use a Q and spell it RodriQues for some strange reason.


Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico  Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
http://www.dholmes.com/


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Azores are a part of Portugal
From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, May 16, 2013 6:25 am
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 

The proper spelling is important too in the genealogy programs.  They get 
uploaded to Family Tree DNA and yet the matches appear to have nothing in 
common with my dad (Sao Miguel ancestry) because someone misspelled it to Sao 
MiQuel. -- 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Stuffing

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hey guys, one last request for a recipe, my Grandmother had a reciepe for 
turkey Portuguese stuffing that was to die for, I used to look forward to her 
stuffing, it was that great.
 
Does anyone have a recipe for stuffing from the old country, she came from Sao 
Miguel, Maderia.
 
Thanks in advance
 
    
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Kale Recipe

[Tony Rodrigues]

Does anyone have that Kale recipe made with the Linguica  choecio with beans, 
I would really appreciate it.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francis Joseph

[Tony Matthews]

Thanks Anita for your own interesting story.  Yes, I did try using the 
Francisco Jose moniker but so far no luck with that even.  We suspect he 
angliscised his name which 
may make it harder to trace and even more so if he has dropped off the last 
portion of his birth name or changed it completely as some did!. I haven't 
been able to find which ship he supposedly jumped from either which doesn't 
help.  I did read when scanning the shipping records, there were instances of 
escaping sailors drowning in their attempt to jump ship.
Guess I'll just to be patient and apparently I am not, judging by the re-action 
from my sister  niece when we shopped for clothes for my mother yesterday.  
I'll leave women to shop alone in future lol. Tony

--- On Wed, 23/5/12, anitawanita anita.mann...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: anitawanita anita.mann...@hotmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francis Joseph
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23, May, 2012, 2:50 AM


Hi Tony,

My GG Grandfather was also from Flores, Azores (Ponta Delgada)... Left
as 14yr old  jumped from a whaling ship in Wellington at about 18yrs.
Eventually became naturalised  married an English Settlers' daughter
- they had 9 children in NZ.

We found that his name changed from the original, perhaps officially
when signing his naturalisation documents...The NZ family knew him as
Manuel Jose Bernard, yet he was Jose Bernardo de Almeida at birth. He
has a few relatives  also called Francisco Jose, but the DOB does not
match - could be a cousin!

We've pieced together much of Manuels tree re ancestors thanks to this
group  'Azores Nation' website... Still hoping to find some more of
his siblings  their descendants.

Let us know how you get on,

Anita



On May 19, 3:49 pm, Tony tone2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Francis Joseph was born in 1833,  some where in the Azores.  His Father was 
 carpenter   named Antonio.  We don’t  know the name of his Mother.  Francis 
 left the Azores as a young boy and
 spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand.  He 
 was then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here.  He never 
 became a naturalised citizen of New Zealand.   In 1883,  at the age of 50 
 years he married an English woman in New Plymouth,  Taranaki,  New Zealand 
 and they had 3 children.  Francis died there in August 1917 aged 84 years.  
 We do not know which island he came from and if anyone in the room has any 
 connection or knowledge of him or his family I’d be very grateful to hear 
 from you.  He is my Gt Grandfather.
 My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady from 
 America came looking for our family.  Perhaps we have some American 
 relatives? Thanks, Tony

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

[Tony Matthews]

Hello Jools, yes we did connect some time back and you were very helpful then.
Your Francis Joseph, definitely is not my man at all (even if the Archives did 
try to tell me different!) and as we know his back ground is well 
authenticated/documented which is really great for his descendants.  He was 
also naturalised.  Thanks again for your comments. Tony

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Date: Tuesday, 22, May, 2012, 5:28 PM






On 22/05/2012, at 5:21 PM, azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

I'm not sure if its you I've been in touch with previously, but I'm connected 
to another Frank Joseph from the Azores, Master Mariner, who came to New 
Zealand.  Now he, most definitely, had relations in the USA, and he, himself 
also lived there for a time, (Gold Hill, Nevada) and buried his first wife (my 
gt.gt.g.t aunt) there, along with an infant child.  


You will likely bump into his information in search of your chap, but there's 
not much I don't know, that can't be confirmed as to which one it is.  


Jools
Auckland








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Francis Joseph [1 Update]
 Francis Joseph
chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au May 21 04:12AM -0700  

Hi Tony,  I am in Australia and have a ggg grandfather that came here from the 
Azores. At my local library i have access to the Victorian BDM records and 
would be happy to research your family connections . Let me know if i can help 
, please send me as much detail as you can on the names and approximate dates 
and if possible the town where they might have lived.  I can also access 
cemetery files. All at no cost. Will be pleased to help.  Maria Lima and i got 
so excited last year as we thought that both our Azores relations came to 
Australia on the ship Water Lily but it was not to be the case
Best Wishes
Chris
Thanks to both Cheri  maria Lima for the useful hints.  I been to Archives NZ 
and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't 
have.  This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier 
his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is 
very useful!  The Obits  Marriage papers were of no use either.  I can only 
surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it 
not being english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 
'Western Isles' on official documents.
Francis Joseph was born in 1833,  some where in the Azores.  His Father was 
carpenter   named Antonio.  We don’t  know the name of his Mother.  Francis 
left the Azores as a young boy and
spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand.  He 
was then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here.  He never 
became a naturalised citizen of New Zealand..   In 1883,  at the age of 50 
years he married an English woman in New Plymouth,  Taranaki,  New Zealand 
and they had 3 children.  Francis died there in August 1917 aged 84 years.  
We do not know which island he came from and if anyone in the room has any 
connection or knowledge of him or his family I’d be very grateful to hear 
from you.  He is my Gt Grandfather.
My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady 
from America came looking for our family.  Perhaps we have some American 
relatives? Thanks, Tony



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph

[Tony Matthews]

Thanks Maria Lima for the suggestion,  I will continue the hunt in both 
versions of his name. It was only this past week  that I was able to find the 
name of his father Antonio. So there is hope yet! Tony

--- On Tue, 22/5/12, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 22, May, 2012, 11:07 AM




The only 2 cents I can think of for Tony is  at first  I thought hmm at least I 
haven't seen that many  Francis Josephs. 


 I tried visualibg all the common names and then it hut me:  his name in the 
records of the Azores  was probably FRANCISCO JOSE.- not Francis Joseph.   I 
don't know if this sheds a sliver of  light  on anything. 

Maria Elena



On May 21, 2012, at 6:12 AM, chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote:








Hi Tony,  I am in Australia and have a ggg grandfather that came here from the 
Azores. At my local library i have access to the Victorian BDM records and 
would be happy to research your family connections . Let me know if i can help 
, please send me as much detail as you can on the names and approximate dates 
and if possible the town where they might have lived.  I can also access 
cemetery files. All at no cost. Will be pleased to help.  Maria Lima and i got 
so excited last year as we thought that both our Azores relations came to 
Australia on the ship Water Lily but it was not to be the case
Best Wishes
Chris


From: Tony Matthews tony...@xtra.co.nz
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph









Thanks to both Cheri  maria Lima for the useful hints.  I been to Archives NZ 
and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't 
have.  This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier 
his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is 
very useful!  The Obits  Marriage papers were of no use either.  I can only 
surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it 
not being english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 
'Western Isles' on official documents.
I have spent hours pouring over shipping lists and did find a Francis Joseph 
from Flores, who seems about the right age, travelled to Nantuckett, 
Nantuckett, Mass and later on
was perhaps the same man sailing the Atlantic  Pacific showing up in 
Australia.  Both the time frame and age of the individual fits at various 
recorded points.  However there is absolutely no proof it is my Gt Grandfather 
at this point.
I haven't had much luck with either Ancestry.com or Mr Holmes' site.
So here's hoping someone, some where may have some info,  I read my Azores- 
Geneology emails every day and delight when someone gets some good news about 
an ancestor! Thanks, Tony  --- On Sun, 20/5/12, Maria Lima 
maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20, May, 2012, 7:06 AM





Hi Tony

Cheri is correct about the documents that will lead you to know where in the 
Azores he came from.  

If you could find the wife's name then you could look on pioneer index for more 
info.  That is how I discovered info that lex ne to uncover much about our 2 
gold miner great grandfathers (actually my husband's). If ge married an English 
girl, maybe she was Wesleyan.  I learned that they were dissenters fm the 
Church of England, as was the case in one of our ancestors.  Your gr 
grandfather was born a few year before our 2guys 1836 and 1838 but there were 
several siblings born before them.  They were drawn to Australia by the 
goldfields.  Any family stories that would give more of a clue?
I was able to get the marriage certificate for my husband's gr grandfather and 
that's how I knew they were married by theWesleyan minister.  

I alzo found them on unassisted passengers comment on the ship Water Lily in 
1853.  Are there museums in the New Zealand area where they preserve names and 
history like they have in Victoria.

Try cemetery where the family lived.  Sounds like stayed put in one area (?) so 
if he was a carpenter maybe he made furniture- the old newspapers had many ads. 
 I learned slot about out guys from the Creswick and Clunes daily Register and 
Advertiser.  Then I sent away to the public records office Victoria for each of 
18 articles where their names are mentioned.  It is tedios but peopke in 
Victoria were amazingly helpful as I live in the US.  I hope you keep looking 
and you will find him.  My husband's gr grandfathers were J J DE LIMA and their 
father was Antonio José.  Best of luck              Maria Elena 

On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Tony tone2ma

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph

[Tony Matthews]

Thanks Chris Murray for the offer of help. Can I contact you privately at some 
point after I've got an answer to my latest search!  It's very much like 
looking for a needle in a haystack.
On the health side of things we must all remember to get off of our chairs and 
have a walk around occasionally to ward off DVT's! It's so easy to sit in front 
of our computers for hours on end chasing leads on our ancestors. Cheers, Tony

--- On Mon, 21/5/12, chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote:


From: chris murray cmurra...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 21, May, 2012, 11:12 PM







Hi Tony,  I am in Australia and have a ggg grandfather that came here from the 
Azores. At my local library i have access to the Victorian BDM records and 
would be happy to research your family connections . Let me know if i can help 
, please send me as much detail as you can on the names and approximate dates 
and if possible the town where they might have lived.  I can also access 
cemetery files. All at no cost. Will be pleased to help.  Maria Lima and i got 
so excited last year as we thought that both our Azores relations came to 
Australia on the ship Water Lily but it was not to be the case
Best Wishes
Chris


From: Tony Matthews tony...@xtra.co.nz
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph









Thanks to both Cheri  maria Lima for the useful hints.  I been to Archives NZ 
and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't 
have.  This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier 
his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is 
very useful!  The Obits  Marriage papers were of no use either.  I can only 
surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it 
not being english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 
'Western Isles' on official documents.
I have spent hours pouring over shipping lists and did find a Francis Joseph 
from Flores, who seems about the right age, travelled to Nantuckett, 
Nantuckett, Mass and later on
was perhaps the same man sailing the Atlantic  Pacific showing up in 
Australia.  Both the time frame and age of the individual fits at various 
recorded points.  However there is absolutely no proof it is my Gt Grandfather 
at this point.
I haven't had much luck with either Ancestry.com or Mr Holmes' site.
So here's hoping someone, some where may have some info,  I read my Azores- 
Geneology emails every day and delight when someone gets some good news about 
an ancestor! Thanks, Tony  --- On Sun, 20/5/12, Maria Lima 
maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20, May, 2012, 7:06 AM





Hi Tony

Cheri is correct about the documents that will lead you to know where in the 
Azores he came from.  

If you could find the wife's name then you could look on pioneer index for more 
info.  That is how I discovered info that lex ne to uncover much about our 2 
gold miner great grandfathers (actually my husband's). If ge married an English 
girl, maybe she was Wesleyan.  I learned that they were dissenters fm the 
Church of England, as was the case in one of our ancestors.  Your gr 
grandfather was born a few year before our 2guys 1836 and 1838 but there were 
several siblings born before them.  They were drawn to Australia by the 
goldfields.  Any family stories that would give more of a clue?
I was able to get the marriage certificate for my husband's gr grandfather and 
that's how I knew they were married by theWesleyan minister.  

I alzo found them on unassisted passengers comment on the ship Water Lily in 
1853.  Are there museums in the New Zealand area where they preserve names and 
history like they have in Victoria.

Try cemetery where the family lived.  Sounds like stayed put in one area (?) so 
if he was a carpenter maybe he made furniture- the old newspapers had many ads. 
 I learned slot about out guys from the Creswick and Clunes daily Register and 
Advertiser.  Then I sent away to the public records office Victoria for each of 
18 articles where their names are mentioned.  It is tedios but peopke in 
Victoria were amazingly helpful as I live in the US.  I hope you keep looking 
and you will find him.  My husband's gr grandfathers were J J DE LIMA and their 
father was Antonio José.  Best of luck              Maria Elena 

On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Tony tone2ma...@gmail.com wrote:





Francis Joseph was born in 1833,  some where in the Azores.  His Father was 
carpenter   named Antonio.  We don’t  know the name of his Mother.  Francis 
left the Azores as a young boy and
spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph

[Tony Matthews]

Thanks to both Cheri  maria Lima for the useful hints.  I been to Archives NZ 
and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't 
have.  This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier 
his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is 
very useful!  The Obits  Marriage papers were of no use either.  I can only 
surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it 
not being english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 
'Western Isles' on official documents.
I have spent hours pouring over shipping lists and did find a Francis Joseph 
from Flores, who seems about the right age, travelled to Nantuckett, 
Nantuckett, Mass and later on
was perhaps the same man sailing the Atlantic  Pacific showing up in 
Australia.  Both the time frame and age of the individual fits at various 
recorded points.  However there is absolutely no proof it is my Gt Grandfather 
at this point.
I haven't had much luck with either Ancestry.com or Mr Holmes' site.
So here's hoping someone, some where may have some info,  I read my Azores- 
Geneology emails every day and delight when someone gets some good news about 
an ancestor! Thanks, Tony 
--- On Sun, 20/5/12, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20, May, 2012, 7:06 AM





Hi Tony


Cheri is correct about the documents that will lead you to know where in the 
Azores he came from.  


If you could find the wife's name then you could look on pioneer index for more 
info.  That is how I discovered info that lex ne to uncover much about our 2 
gold miner great grandfathers (actually my husband's). If ge married an English 
girl, maybe she was Wesleyan.  I learned that they were dissenters fm the 
Church of England, as was the case in one of our ancestors.  Your gr 
grandfather was born a few year before our 2guys 1836 and 1838 but there were 
several siblings born before them.  They were drawn to Australia by the 
goldfields.  Any family stories that would give more of a clue?
I was able to get the marriage certificate for my husband's gr grandfather and 
that's how I knew they were married by theWesleyan minister.  


I alzo found them on unassisted passengers comment on the ship Water Lily in 
1853.  Are there museums in the New Zealand area where they preserve names and 
history like they have in Victoria.


Try cemetery where the family lived.  Sounds like stayed put in one area (?) so 
if he was a carpenter maybe he made furniture- the old newspapers had many ads. 
 I learned slot about out guys from the Creswick and Clunes daily Register and 
Advertiser.  Then I sent away to the public records office Victoria for each of 
18 articles where their names are mentioned.  It is tedios but peopke in 
Victoria were amazingly helpful as I live in the US.  I hope you keep looking 
and you will find him.  My husband's gr grandfathers were J J DE LIMA and their 
father was Antonio José.  Best of luck             

Maria Elena



On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Tony tone2ma...@gmail.com wrote:







Francis Joseph was born in 1833,  some where in the Azores.  His Father was 
carpenter   named Antonio.  We don’t  know the name of his Mother.  Francis 
left the Azores as a young boy and
spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand.  He was 
then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here.  He never became a 
naturalised citizen of New Zealand.   In 1883,  at the age of 50 years he 
married an English woman in New Plymouth,  Taranaki,  New Zealand and they had 
3 children.  Francis died there in August 1917 aged 84 years.  We do not know 
which island he came from and if anyone in the room has any connection or 
knowledge of him or his family I’d be very grateful to hear from you.  He is my 
Gt Grandfather.
My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady from 
America came looking for our family.  Perhaps we have some American relatives? 
Thanks, Tony
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Alilcraza1

[Tony Amaral]

Hey!!! Ann sends you her kindest regards!
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Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:10:44
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal

[Tony Rodrigues]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE WHOLE GANG.  
 
 
THANKS    TONY
 


 From: pereir...@cox.net pereir...@cox.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Cc: Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas / Feliz Natal
 
Blessings  love to all my Azorean friends  cousins who have helped me for so 
many years with my research. Feliz Natal to all of you.

Patricia
Las Vegas, Nevada


 Lionel Holmes lionelholme...@gmail.com wrote: 
 And Merry Christmas to you,Cheri. You do a great job!
 
 Lionel Rocha Holmes
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online

[Tony Matthews]

Hello Richard, Thanks for the quick reply to my query.  We know very little 
about our family history and of course none of us speak portuguese either which 
may be a very real handicap in doing any research. I have only just started!  I 
am absolutely astonished in the numbers of people who left the islands perhaps 
for a better life all over the world. Thanks again for your help. Tony

--- On Thu, 14/7/11, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net 
wrote:


From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, 14, July, 2011, 2:39 AM






Hello Tony,
 
As far as what his name could be I would say Francisco Jose.  I have seen a 
number of Jose in Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,  Sao 
Miguel, Acores
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony Matthews
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:38 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online
 




Hello Cheri, My great grandfather is reputed to have come from the Azores as a 
sailor/whaler and apparently jumped ship here in NZ.  Unfortunately, not a lot 
is known about him.  We think he anglicised his name to Francis Joseph.  My 
query to you is this, can you give me any clues as to what it may have been 
before the change?  We have no idea which island he may have come from.  From 
his marriage certificate I see he was 57 years old when he married a very much 
younger woman here in New Zealand.  They had only one child. The marriage 
certificate just says he was born in Portugal. I worked out he was he was born 
in 1822.  Perhaps some one in the group may know something anyway here's hoping 
on this very long shot. Thanks, Tony

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From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, 7, July, 2011, 4:38 AM

Dick Eastman posted this today about immigrants to Canada (1865-1935) from the 
Library and Archives Canada (LAC): http://goo.gl/oPnPp

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online

[Tony Matthews]

Hello Cheri, My great grandfather is reputed to have come from the Azores as a 
sailor/whaler and apparently jumped ship here in NZ.  Unfortunately, not a lot 
is known about him.  We think he anglicised his name to Francis Joseph.  My 
query to you is this, can you give me any clues as to what it may have been 
before the change?  We have no idea which island he may have come from.  From 
his marriage certificate I see he was 57 years old when he married a very much 
younger woman here in New Zealand.  They had only one child. The marriage 
certificate just says he was born in Portugal. I worked out he was he was born 
in 1822.  Perhaps some one in the group may know something anyway here's hoping 
on this very long shot. Thanks, Tony

--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrants to Canada are Online
To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, 7, July, 2011, 4:38 AM


Dick Eastman posted this today about immigrants to Canada (1865-1935) from the 
Library and Archives Canada (LAC): http://goo.gl/oPnPp

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Achada


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores etymology

[Tony Amaral]

You are almost right it was named after a sea erne cloae relative of the eagle.


 
  Tony Amaral    
  

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores etymology
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 12:09 AM








My father told me that Azores was named after the eagles or closest to that 
species that were in and around the island when it was discovered.
 
Linda Borges Furtado
 

 




From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto: azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
John Raposo
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:47 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores etymology
 


I have read that the Açor, or goshawk, which does not exist in the Azores, was 
mistaken for the Milhafre, or buzzard, which is plentiful in the Azores and 
resembles a hawk (they are both birds of prey with talons and sharp beaks). 
Apparently the goshawk was plentiful in the hills and mountains of Belmonte, 
from where Gonçalo Velho Cabral came, for there was a tiny chapel inthe hills 
surrounding Belmonte dedicated to Nossa Senhora do Açores, which pre-dated the 
discovery of the islands, and the Velho Cabrals were the chapel's patrons, or 
so I have read.

 


From: Joao S. Lopes josim...@yahoo.com.br
To:  azores@googlegroups.com   azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores etymology

I picked this from wikipedia, and sounds interesting. What's the meaning of 
Açores? Açor in Portuguese is the name of one species of hawk (usually 
explained from Latin accipiter), but there's no hawk in Azores . An alternative 
explanation is that Azores was a corruption of Italian azorres, modern Italian 
azurra blue, meaning the Blue Islands .

Joao S. Lopes

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral de Melo, Mendonca, in Achada, Sao Miguel

[Tony Rodrigues]

Shirley, I don't know if there is any connection, but my Grandfather, Carlos 
Cabral DeMelo
was born in San Miguel in July of 1895.
 
I'll await your reply if any.
 
    Good LuckAnthony

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote:


From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral de Melo, Mendonca, in Achada, Sao Miguel
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: Roberta GEORGE Tevis tevisagedm...@earthlink.net
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 9:20 PM


See below in caps.
Does anyone have  DOBs and names for their children?
Shirley in CA
- Original Message - From: George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral de Melo, Mendonca, in Achada, Sao Miguel


Hi I have
I will double check
Antonio Cabral De Melo born in Nordeste, SM and married in 14 July
1752 SJ-NORDESTE to Dona Maria de Mendonca I have Antonio Cabral Melo. Parents 
of
Antonio Cabral de Melo born in Nordeste,  and Barbara Correia I
believe he was a widower of Maria Pimentel Soares.  THIS MARRIAGE WAS 27 NOV 
1724
IN SJ-NORDESTE

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm going to repost this thread here since many readers may be skipping
 topics of Christmas, thinking there's no genealogy in those threads/posts.
 ~Cheri
 
 Iris said:
 I have an ancestor, Antonio Cabral Melo born in Achada Grande, Sao Miguel,
 Father of
 Antonio Cabral De Melo born in Nordeste, SM and married in 14 July 1752 to
 Dona Maria de Mendonca. Parents of Alexandre Cabral de Melo born in
 Nordeste, SM and married to Maria Raposo on 24 Oct 1779 in Sao Jorge,
 Nordeste, SM. This line leads to my Grandfather, Marion Cabral who was born
 on Maui, Hawaii in 1883.
 See any connections?
 Iris Cabral Bilodeau
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: passport registration and the consul's passenger manifest....

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hi, I am researching Rodrigues,  Mello (Demello), can you elaborate on this 
Demello book, if you can please tell me what the contents are, or where I can 
see a copy.

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From: IslandRoutes islandrou...@gmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: passport registration and the consul's 
passenger manifest
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 7:27 AM


I  am not sure if I can add to wat you have, but I've done some
research on these lines.  I came up with similar confusing
information.

One question I have.  Was the Consulado Geral...i.e. the Consulate
logs in Hawaii consulted for the passage on the Monarch and the
passage on the City of Paris. This would tell us if there were two
arrivals and what the families looked like whe when then arrived in
Hawaii. As I understand your info. below you've got the passport
registration from DeMello's book and then the ship manifest for the
City of Paris.  Is that right?

I haven't gone over this line in a long time, but I see some things.
1.  There is a pretty big age difference between Francisco Jose de
Souza and Jacintha Candida--22 years.  This could imply a second
marriage.
2.  Francisco married to Joanna Erminia da Costa Maiato don't seem to
appear on the Monarch's ship manifest.  Perhaps they never went to
Hawaii?  Presence of a passport entry does not always mean the couple
went to Hawaii.
3.  There is also confusion with that entry.  Eva aged 12 is listed as
a niece of Francisco Jose d'Souza.  She appears to be the same age as
Eva listed in the ship entry for Francisco and Jacinta.  Same Eva or a
coincidence in names?

I did find out alot about Eva.  She married Antonio Joaquim Fernandes,
son of Andre Joaquim Fernandes and Rosa Jacinta Duarte.  Living with
the couple in 1900 s Irmma [sic] Souza and Rosey Souza.  Both are
listed as sister-in-laws to Antono Joaquim Fernandes.  This would
imply that the Eva who married Antonio is the daughter of Francisco
Jse de Souza and Jacintha Candido.

Antonio and Eva are on page 120 of PHM.  This is where it gets more
confusing.  Eva's parents are listed as Francisco Jose de Souza and
Miquelina Rosa da Cunha.

So, we have a couple confusing things going on here. First we have a
ship manifest showing Jacintha being the Mother of these children.
But, the childre themselves claim Miquelina as their Mother.  And to
further confuse it, the Francisco in the passport record claims
Miquelina is the widow!

Then add in the age discrepancy between Francisco and his wife
Jacintha.

I found Jacintha living with her daughter Anna (Souza) Brum in 1900.
She is a widow.  So, there is no more to find out about Francisco
there.

I also have the marriage record for Francisco and Jacintha's son Jose
who married Maria Mary Medeiros.  On his marriage cert, he lists his
parents as Francisco Souza and Jacintha Candida Ferreira.

To me it's confusing.  It's possible that the children are confused on
the names of their parents.  It's possible that the Francisco listed
on the City of Paris isn't really as old as he says.  Or, he his and
Jacintha is wife #2.  Miquelina being wife #1.

I think the ony way to sort this out is going to be to get the
Consulate log in Hawaii record.  I don't believe the passport record
for 1884 exists, so that's not available to you.  Also, it might be
helpful to find Francisco and Jacintha's death records.  You probably
won't find Francisco's since he died before 1900.  Then to go to the
records for Rabo de Peixe to see if these children can be located and
who is listed as the Mother and Father.  That last one may be the only
way to sort it all out.

I'm not sure my information helps or not.

Mel

On Oct 12, 12:40 pm, bbeara briix...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Some of you may be familiar with the volunteers at the PGHS.  Mr.
 Nelson has been fantastic in helping me and left me this little gem of
 a mystery:

 I checked the passport registration and the consul's passenger
 manifest
 the pasport registration for Sao Miguel...listed Francisco Jose d'
 Sousa (25 yrs old),  father deceased, mother Miguelina Rosa da Cunha
 from R. de Piexe,  wife Joana Erminia da Costa Maiato (20 yrs old) and
 niece (?) Eva (12 yrs old).  this is for the ship Monarchthey are
 not listed on the consul's record for the Monarch.

 Freitas (page 119) listed Mairanno Jose de Souza, born Rabo de
 Peixe...son of Francisco Jose de Souza and Miquelina Rosa da Cunha.

 The consul general record:  City of Paris   Francisco Jose de Sousa
 (57 yrs old), wife Jacintha Candida (35 yrs old), children Marianno
 17, Eva 12, Maria 8, Anna 4, Rosa 15 days.

 Now all this came from wondering about Gx3 Grandfather Francisco Jose
 Souza and the confusion between ships manifest and the Freitas Book
 citing different wives.  My Auntie (Gx2 to Francisco) knew of
 Miquelina de Cunha from when her daughters did a school project.

 Francisco's son Marianno 

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel

[Tony Cardoso]

John Vasconcelos:

 

Are you related to John Vasconcelos that grew up in Sunnyvale, CA in the early 
to mid 70’s? I went to school with john and would like to say hello.

 

Thanks!

Tony

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Vasconcelos
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:00 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Flores Genealogy/Pimentel

 

Cindy,
I may have a lead for you. My 4G grandparents, Ursula Pimentel born Santa Cruz 
Flores, married to Pedro de Freitas, born Mosteiro, Flores, married 17 June 
1734 in Santa Cruz Flores. Ursula died 08 Aug 1775, Caldeira, Flores. They had 
a lot of Freitas de Pimentel descendants (who usually went by Pimentel), many 
of whom I grew  up with in the Fresno California area. One of their descendants 
is my 5th cousin Dr. David Pimentel, Professor emeritus of Cornell University 
who several years ago ran (and lost) on the outsider ticket for some high 
office in the Sierra Club. He, I believe was born in the New Bedford area. 
Unfortunately, I haven't ever met him.
Regards,
John Vasconcelos

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Cindy D - Searching Sylvia-Pimentel-Martin 
kcci...@aol.com wrote:

Although I have not been able to find acutal documentation over there
to prove it, my Pimentel side is from Flores, so pour me a glass and
count me in!!!  I know zero about Flores other than my mother has told
me that her grandmother said it has a lot of flowers.

Got a lucky break and found a marriage record in New Bedfordand it
confirmed family lore that my great-grandma Maggie Pimentel (Margarida
Ursela Pimentel) was indeed, from Flores.  Also got her parents' names
on that record.  Double Score.  I thought my great-grandfather was
Sylvia or Silva, but no, marriage record has Da Silvawhich
explains why I couldn't find much of anything for the past 3 years.
Doh!  Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to
celebrate!

My family tree was written by first generation American Sylvias and a
big mistake was made in hand copying (before copy machines) and listed
Frank Pimentel and Annie Martin as Maggie's parents which did not
agree with that New Bedford marriage record at all so it's been
sitting on the back-burner for at least a year.  After digging through
some family papers and carefully reading all the little pencil notes
on the original note paper, turns out, Frank is Maggie's brother, not
father.  So now it all makes sense and I can put everyone where they
belong.  Sheesh!

Cindy D
Sylvia, Pimentel, and new and improved, Da Silva, De Jesus and a
Martin in-law




On Jun 6, 11:32�pm, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've become envious of the Ponta Garca Gang and the Cabral Travassos
 Country Club and their good fortune in finding cousins. �So I hereby
 establish the Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society. �We Flores people are
 not so fortunate as our more easterly cousins. Flores was subject to the
 plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our ancestors and
 their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was attacked by
 Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the Island. As a
 result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the records on
 neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall.

 The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my ancestors
 was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692, Santa Cruz,
 Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married previously, in the
 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna Fraga,
 date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa Cruz, Flores.
 I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das Chagas, whose
 mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and Catarina de
 Freitas.

 How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors?
 John Vasconcelos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao Miguel

[Tony Rodrigues]

Dave, my Grandmother (Etelvina Cotta Pereira) was born in the parrish of 
Conceicoa of Angra, Her Father was Joao Inacio Cota,  her Mother was Maria 
Carolina.
 
This is as far as I have gotten, but I keep trying for more information, maybe 
I'll be lucky when I see the Passenger ship list that they came over on  the 
cencus from 1910 - 1930.
 
please keep me informed, you never know, maybe we are related. 

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, Dave Worman dvco...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dave Worman dvco...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao 
Miguel
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:58 PM


Tony,
You are the first person other than myself who is interested in Cotta
genealogy.  Would you know of a Velma Cotta, born about 1910?
Dave

On 4/23/10, Tony Rodrigues t.rodrigue...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No, not Costa, my Grandmothers name was Etelvina Cotta-Pereira)Mello

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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao
 Miguel
 To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 2:32 PM


 Do you mean Costa?  I have Rodrigues, Mello  Costas in my history
 from Sao Miguel.

 On Apr 20, 12:31 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Repost for t.rodrigues74 at yahoo.com

 I am trying to find infomation on Mello, Cotta, Periera  Rodrigues from
 St
 Michael,  also Rodrigues, Augusta from Maderia.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao Miguel

[Tony Rodrigues]

Please keep me informed, between us we may have something in common with our 
ancestors.

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From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao 
Miguel
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 1:31 PM


I have Rodrigues from Sao Miguel, but haven't gotten to that line yet since
I'm still working on my other lines I have.

Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton 

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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:33 AM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao
Miguel

Do you mean Costa?  I have Rodrigues, Mello  Costas in my history from Sao
Miguel.

On Apr 20, 12:31 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Repost for t.rodrigues74 at yahoo.com

 I am trying to find infomation on Mello, Cotta, Periera  Rodrigues 
 from St Michael,  also Rodrigues, Augusta from Maderia.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao Miguel

[Tony Rodrigues]

No, not Costa, my Grandmothers name was Etelvina Cotta-Pereira)Mello

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello, Cotta, Pereira, Rodrigues from Sao Miguel
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 2:32 PM


Do you mean Costa?  I have Rodrigues, Mello  Costas in my history
from Sao Miguel.

On Apr 20, 12:31 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 Repost for t.rodrigues74 at yahoo.com

 I am trying to find infomation on Mello, Cotta, Periera  Rodrigues from St
 Michael,  also Rodrigues, Augusta from Maderia.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hi Debmarie, my name is tony  I am doing research on my gg parents from 
Terceira  San Miguel, IF it is not a problem I would appreciate it very much 
if you could obtain for an address where I could write for copies of Birth, 
Marriage, Death  Baptism Records.   if at all possible some phone numbers. 
(hopefully they will speak english).
 
Both sets of Grand Parents are from Portugal,  I am trying to find as much 
information as I possibly can.
 
Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide.  Also if you have members 
who have asked for your help  it would be too much of a load, please advise.
 
  Once Again  Thank 
You

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:53 AM


Hello...

I am new to the group and just getting started (seriously) on my
family tree.

I will be in Terceira this summer and plan to do some research.  If I
can be of any help to any of you while I am there let me know.

My Family Names are:
Leonardo (paternal), Teixeira (maternal), Azevedo, Soares, Goncalves

Predominantly from Porto Judeu  Feteira.

My grandfather used to be the barber in Porto Judeo and his shop was
across the street from what is now Boca Negra.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

[Tony Cardoso]

Nancy,

 

I don't believe there to be any connection to Candelaria but I will ask my
father if he recalls ever hearing anything about that. He's going back there
this summer to visit. He'll turn 80 this October but his genealogy brain
still works really well. J

 

Thanks!

Tony

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:53 AM
To: azores group
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

 

Hi Tony,
 
My ancestors are from Candelaria and Sao Mateus with just a couple from
Bandeiras, Feitera and Lages.
 
When I was in Pico looking for my Cardosa family, I was told by a Cardoso
from there that there were 3 major branches of Cardoso on Pico. 
 
I've listed mine just in case there could be a connection to you or
others..
 
 
Francisco Silva.10-23-1765.Candelaria
Antonio Furtado Cardoso10-30-1809Candelaria
Manuel Furtado Cardoso3-6-1836...Candelaria
Manuel Furtado Cardoso...9-18-1874Candelaria
Jose Furtado Silva9-14-1833Candelaria

 
Happy searching!
 
Nancy Jean

  _  


From: gfsche...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0700
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico
To: Azores@googlegroups.com

Repost for Tony - tony at rossettas dot com






Nancy Jean,

Am new to the site, I am from Ribeiras Pico and have Cardoso and Silva in my
lines. What area(s) of Pico are you searching for?

Regards,
Tony




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

[Tony Cardoso]

Eric,

 

I am super swamped at work at the moment but I will try and look up these
names a bit later at home.

 

Thanks for your email!

 

Tony

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
eric edgar
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:39 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

 

Tony, 

 

I have Cardoso ancestors from Ribeiras , Pico. See below

 

 

Eric Edgar

 

 

 

Descendants of Simao Cardoso

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

1.  SIMAO1 CARDOSO was born Abt. 1717 in Pico.  He married MARIA DE ABREU
Bef. 1737.  She was born Abt. 1717 in Pico.



Child of SIMAO CARDOSO and MARIA DE ABREU is:

2.i.MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, b. Abt. 1737, Ribeiras,
Pico, Azores.

 

 

Generation No. 2

 

2.  MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA (SIMAO1 CARDOSO) was born Abt. 1737 in Ribeiras,
Pico, Azores.  He married ISABEL FRANCISCA DO ROSARIO PEREIRA 30 Oct 1757 in
Lajes do Pico, Azores, daughter of ANTONIO MELO and AGUEDA ANTONIO.  She was
born Abt. 1747 in Lajes do Pico, Azores.



Child of MANUEL PEREIRA and ISABEL PEREIRA is:

3.i.MANUEL3 CARDOSO, b. Abt. 1770, Ribeiras, Pico,
Azores; d. 12 Jan 1830, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores.

 

 

Generation No. 3

 

3.  MANUEL3 CARDOSO (MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, SIMAO1 CARDOSO) was born Abt.
1770 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores, and died 12 Jan 1830 in Ribeiras, Pico,
Azores.  He married JOSEFA MARIANA 19 Jan 1794 in Ribeiras, Lajes do Pico,
Azores, daughter of FRANCISCO CARDOSO and ISABEL PEREIRA.  She was born 26
Jul 1774 in Ribeiras, Pico, Azores, and died 04 Feb 1863 in Ribeiras, Pico,
Azores.



Child of MANUEL CARDOSO and JOSEFA MARIANA is:

4.i.JOSEFA4 MARIANA, b. 01 May 1803, Lajes do Pico,
Azores; d. 30 Oct 1886, Pico, Azores.

 

 

Generation No. 4

 

4.  JOSEFA4 MARIANA (MANUEL3 CARDOSO, MANUEL CARDOSO2 PEREIRA, SIMAO1
CARDOSO) was born 01 May 1803 in Lajes do Pico,  Azores, and died 30 Oct
1886 in Pico, Azores.  She married JOSE FRANCISCO SOARES 29 Sep 1833 in
Ribeiras, Pico do Lajes, Azores, son of JOSE SOARES and ISABEL PEREIRA.  He
was born 04 Mar 1804 in Lajes do Pico, Azores, and died 07 Sep 1894 in Pico,
Azores.



Children of JOSEFA MARIANA and JOSE SOARES are:

   i.MANUEL5, b. 1835, Ribeiras, Pico, Azores; d. 1835.

  ii.MANUEL CARDOSO, b. 10 Apr 1836; d. 02 Sep 1899; m.
ANA JOSEFA C.JESUS; b. 26 Jul 1844.

 iii.MARIA JOSEFA, b. 1840; d. 25 May 1912, Alameda
County, California.

5.  iv.ISABELLE JOSEFA SOARES, b. 15 Mar 1840, Pico, Azores;
d. 26 Jun 1924, Oakland, Alameda County, California.

  v.JOSEFA MARIANA, b. 1845; d. 1874.

 

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste
fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Tony,
 
My ancestors are from Candelaria and Sao Mateus with just a couple from
Bandeiras, Feitera and Lages.
 
When I was in Pico looking for my Cardosa family, I was told by a Cardoso
from there that there were 3 major branches of Cardoso on Pico. 
 
I've listed mine just in case there could be a connection to you or
others..
 
 
Francisco Silva.10-23-1765.Candelaria
Antonio Furtado Cardoso10-30-1809Candelaria
Manuel Furtado Cardoso3-6-1836...Candelaria
Manuel Furtado Cardoso...9-18-1874Candelaria
Jose Furtado Silva9-14-1833Candelaria

 
Happy searching!
 
Nancy Jean

  _  


From: gfsche...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:36:23 -0700
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico
To: Azores@googlegroups.com 



Repost for Tony - tony at rossettas dot com






Nancy Jean,

Am new to the site, I am from Ribeiras Pico and have Cardoso and Silva in my
lines. What area(s) of Pico are you searching for?

Regards,
Tony




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

[Tony Cardoso]

Gayle,

 

Thanks!

 

What is the NEPS website?

 

Thanks again.

 

Regards,

Tony

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Gayle Machado
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:37 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva and Cardoso from Ribeiras, Pico

 

Tony,

The NEPS website shows the marriage date of 17 Sep 1710 in Ribeiras. Maria
Abreu died 30 April 1750. Also, NEPS shows children Agueda b 1719, Francisco
b 1720 and Antonio b 1724.  You may already know this, but I didn't see it
on your descendants summary.

I have seen these two names before. But, not on my line. I'll try to look
for them over the weekend on some of the pedigree charts that I have for
other family and friends.

Gayle



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice

[Tony Rodrigues]

George
 
My condolences on the passing of your brother, I will remember your family in 
my prayers.

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] death notice
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Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:33 AM


Hi everyone

Just wanted to let you know that my oldest brother Antonio passed away
of a heart attack at 1 AM Sunday morning azorean time or 9PM  Satuday
Eastern time
Antonio was going to be 70 he is my oldest sybling from both of my
parents  time--he was a taxi Driver in Furnashad his own cab if you
ever got a ride in a taxi in the azores fom a man who had a white
beard like Santa Claus . It was my brother Antonio.

George Pacheco

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hi, my name is Tony, my Grandparents on my mothers side was named Mello  lived 
in East Boston, Ma.  I woulkd appreciate any information that you may have 
concerning them, there are a lot of Mello's in Ma, so Im hoping you may have 
something.
 
    Thank You

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mello
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 8:46 AM


Hi Shirl,
   I am also interested in any Mello in the Massachusetts area. Would
you please send me a scan of the microfilm?

ShirleyMay

Searching Vila Franca do Campo, and Povoação, São Miguel, Açores

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 Hi!
    I'm visiting the kids in California and have to read my email on-line.  
 I'll be home January 23.  I can scan it in again and send it to you.  Right 
 now, I don't remember much about it except it was a Mello and I know some of 
 you were looking for that name.  All my info is at home.  There's no way I 
 can reach my home sent file from the internet - darn!
 - Shirl -
 Seriqui, Benarus, Bensabat, Sreky
 Azores, Brazil, Portugal

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island

[Tony Rodrigues]

Henrietta, as much as I would like it, were not related, but good hunting on 
your history.

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From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 9:43 PM


 
Hi Tony , In 1900 we had a Mello of the family living on No 68 Burkshire St. 
Cambridgeport,  Ma. His name was Manuel C. Mello.   Henrietta

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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island






Hi, just to let you know, My grandfather's name was Mello,  they settled in 
East Boston, Ma, maybe we are related somehow.
 
 Tony

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From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 3:54 PM





Hi , I am sorry but I don,t know of any Mello,s in Gloucester that are part of 
my family . The Mello,s from this family went to Bermuda, Texas, Sao George , 
Stonington, Ct. and New Bedford, MA. but you never know they went all over. 
Henrietta

- Original Message - 
From: Dolores Coyle 
To: azores@googlegroups.com ; henriettama...@sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island

Henrietta, 

Are you related to the Mello(w)s  from Gloucester, Mass?  My Great 
Grandmother's half sister was Serina married Joseph Mellow.  They lived in 
Gloucester, Mass.

Thanks, 
Dolores Coyle


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Hi Eliseu, I am sorry but I made a mistake about Manuel and Furtuso. I have  
Manuel Jose Pimentel born Feb. 24, 1739-40 Married Feb. 03, 1762 to Leonarda 
Rosa de Mello born Dec. 5, 1743 . His parents are Boventura Pimentel Pais and 
Francisca Pereira Vasconcellos. Her parents are Antonio Vaz Ferreira and Maria 
Ajuda.  
  Children.
 Antonio Jose Pimentel Sr. born March 29, 1765 Marr. Maria Flora Joaquina Oct. 
29, 1798
 Jose Pimentel born July 28, 1778?
 
Furtuso Jose Pimentel born July 08, 1771 
 Francisco Jose Pimentel  born July 08, 1771
 
Joao Pimentel born March 28, 1779
Antonio is my direct ancestor.  Sorry but these names do get confusing. I have 
family from every island and have been trying to work on all of them.  If you 
put my name on googleyou will be able to see the book that I did on my fathers 
maternal side.    Henrietta Mello Mayer  on google

- Original Message - 
From: Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island



Hi Henrietta,
 
I am glad we found a connection!!! It is always a pleasure to find cousins 
around the world!
 
I am asking your attention to the little differences we have. I would like to 
clear my doubts. 

a)  Where may I find that BOAVENTURA PIMENTEL is also PAIS as his father 
was?
b)  I do not understand your note saying that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are 
brothers!!! I have a MANUEL son of BOAVENTURA and an ANTÓNIO son of MANUEL.
c)   You say that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are Brothers…
  

Do you have any dates for these persons? 

  

I can send you  a GEDCOM. Can you do the same? 

  

I also have copies of the original marriage lists from S. Mateus, PRAIA, 
Graciosa. If you like any information please let me know about. 

  

Thank you very much 

Happy New year! 

  

  



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hi, just to let you know, My grandfather's name was Mello,  they settled in 
East Boston, Ma, maybe we are related somehow.
 
 Tony

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From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 3:54 PM





Hi , I am sorry but I don,t know of any Mello,s in Gloucester that are part of 
my family . The Mello,s from this family went to Bermuda, Texas, Sao George , 
Stonington, Ct. and New Bedford, MA. but you never know they went all over. 
Henrietta

- Original Message - 
From: Dolores Coyle 
To: azores@googlegroups.com ; henriettama...@sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island

Henrietta, 

Are you related to the Mello(w)s  from Gloucester, Mass?  My Great 
Grandmother's half sister was Serina married Joseph Mellow.  They lived in 
Gloucester, Mass.

Thanks, 
Dolores Coyle


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:11 PM, henriettama...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



Hi Eliseu, I am sorry but I made a mistake about Manuel and Furtuso. I have  
Manuel Jose Pimentel born Feb. 24, 1739-40 Married Feb. 03, 1762 to Leonarda 
Rosa de Mello born Dec. 5, 1743 . His parents are Boventura Pimentel Pais and 
Francisca Pereira Vasconcellos. Her parents are Antonio Vaz Ferreira and Maria 
Ajuda.  
  Children.
 Antonio Jose Pimentel Sr. born March 29, 1765 Marr. Maria Flora Joaquina Oct. 
29, 1798
 Jose Pimentel born July 28, 1778?
 
Furtuso Jose Pimentel born July 08, 1771 
 Francisco Jose Pimentel  born July 08, 1771
 
Joao Pimentel born March 28, 1779
Antonio is my direct ancestor.  Sorry but these names do get confusing. I have 
family from every island and have been trying to work on all of them.  If you 
put my name on googleyou will be able to see the book that I did on my fathers 
maternal side.    Henrietta Mello Mayer  on google

- Original Message - 
From: Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] PIMENTEL, PEMINTEL from Graciosa Island



Hi Henrietta,
 
I am glad we found a connection!!! It is always a pleasure to find cousins 
around the world!
 
I am asking your attention to the little differences we have. I would like to 
clear my doubts.
a)  Where may I find that BOAVENTURA PIMENTEL is also PAIS as his father 
was?
b)  I do not understand your note saying that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are 
brothers!!! I have a MANUEL son of BOAVENTURA and an ANTÓNIO son of MANUEL.
c)   You say that FRUCTUOSO and MANUEL are Brothers…
 
Do you have any dates for these persons?
 
I can send you  a GEDCOM. Can you do the same?
 
I also have copies of the original marriage lists from S. Mateus, PRAIA, 
Graciosa. If you like any information please let me know about.
 
Thank you very much
Happy New year!
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learn basic Portuguese

[Tony Rodrigues]

Can someone please explain the difference between Portuguese, (as spoken in the 
Azores)  Brazilian Portuguese.
 
 Thanks

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From: Mary Ann Santos m...@nyu.edu
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learn basic Portuguese
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:44 PM


The only drawback is that it's Brazilian Portuguese...

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From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:23 am
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Learn basic Portuguese
To: Azores@googlegroups.com

 Hi All,
 
  
 
 If you ever thought of learning basic Portuguese Dick Eastman's news
 letter has a article about a free course on line. It is published by the
 state department and has been used for a number of years. I looked at
 the Italian program and it is the same one I took when I was in Italy 
 in
 1977.  Even today I can still remember a lot of it. There is one for
 Portuguese which includes audio tapes. You can read the article at the
 link below.
 
  
 
 http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/12/free-foreign-lang
 uage-courses.html 
 
  
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 
 Epping, New Hampshire, USA
 
 Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
 Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 
 
  
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy]

[Tony Rodrigues]

Hi folks, I received an e-mail yesterday which seemed to hav gone astray, it 
was how to contact angra de herosimo, if you guys could please resend it to me 
I would be very greatful.
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Research

[Tony Rodrigues]

I am looking for information on my ancestry, and I would very much appreciate 
any  all help in trying to find some information.
 
I am researching information on Rodrigues  Mello, both family's are from 
Portugal, The Rodrigues's were born In Funchal  Ponto DePargo, Madeira, the  
Mello's were born in 
Terceira, Azores, Portugal.
 
I am in need of Birth, Death, Marriage records, most were done in different 
parishes, what I need to know is, are there any sites where I can go to 
research, download or make copies, are there any in english or are they all in 
portuguese.
 
Are there any Phone Numbers that I can call in Portugal where I can ask about 
copies, I would appreciate any help that anyone can provide.
 
Thank you very much. 
 
 


  

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