Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-27 Thread Shirley Allegre
Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry I read that (with my limited Portuguese) as Jose is filing for emancipation from his father. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-24 Thread JR
Yes, I found quite a few errors in the baptisms. One says Emilia is a Braga. Another says they were received in Santa Anna. Mafalda does not have Medeiros in her immediate ancestry. Anyway, I suspect an error in the parents of Mafalda. It is quite a rare name. There is only one Mafalda in said

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-24 Thread IslandRoutes
JR- This is what the baptismals showed: Toribio's maternal grandparents: Agostinho de Medeiros and Mafalda de Medeiros Jose's maternal grandparents: Agostinho de Medeiros and Mafalda Assumpcao On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 9:23:59 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: > > There is a conflict with the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread JR
There is a conflict with the grandparents of Mafalda. What do the baptisms of Sao Sebastioa about the grandparents names? JR On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:09:24 AM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: > > Thank you so much for your responses! It's helped me get a little bit of > an idea of why he

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread IslandRoutes
Thank you so much for your responses! It's helped me get a little bit of an idea of why he asked for emancipation. We can rule out that his father recently died. He lived until 1888. I will be following Emilia's trail. Then I want to go back to the obitos for Maia and make sure that these

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
sorry, didn't address all your questions. It's unlikely he was disabled, if he were he wouldn't be able to pay the Courts with his allowance. Over there and in those days, payments were upfront. It took thousands of $$ to start a legal process. Regarding the wife's age, that is not so uncommon.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
In most cases, yes. Emancipation is "freedom" from Paternal or Tutelage hold. There is emancipation for slaves as well but it is not the case here, My guess, since he's almost 21, is that he was seeking his inheritance portion of the parents' estate at emancipation time. Or, if the father

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread IslandRoutes
Mara and JR, I'll answer you both here. JR, no, I haven't looked for Emilia's parents in Faja de Baixo yet. I only started my search Sunday starting with the records in Sao Sebastiao. So, I have more work to do! Mara, This information is interesting. So, emancipation does have to do with

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread JR
Do you have the marriage of Emilia's parents, said to be from Faja de Baixo? JR On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:19:01 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: > > JR, > I think I may shift to Sao Jose and try the mother's village first. Their > are many obitos for Sao Sebastiao. It could be a needle in a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, The majority age in Portugal according to, [Codigo Civil de Seabra (artigo 1058º) de 1867] was 21 years of age. Also and in accordance to the same Code, the age for marriage was: 16 years of age for a man and 14 years of age for a woman. This information was obtained from a discussion

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread Cheri Mello
I don't remember the majority age for a man to get married back then. Maybe he wasn't majority age to get married so he is filing emancipation? Hopefully someone else knows more about this topic and can chime in. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread IslandRoutes
JR, I think I may shift to Sao Jose and try the mother's village first. Their are many obitos for Sao Sebastiao. It could be a needle in a haystack kind of search through those records. I have gotten a few DNA matches recently who have ancestry in the Ponta Delgada area and none in any of

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread IslandRoutes
Cheri, That's how I read it. But, if so, why? Could it have something to do with him being the oldest surviving son and moving away from Maia to Ponta Delgada to get married? On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 11:25:52 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I read that (with my limited Portuguese) as

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread JR
I notice Emilia was baptised in Sao Jose de Ponta Delgada and her parents are from Fenais de Baixo. Why not try those places to see if is that where they settled. JR On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 2:25:52 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I read that (with my limited Portuguese) as Jose is filing

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread Cheri Mello
I read that (with my limited Portuguese) as Jose is filing for emancipation from his father. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 10:44 AM, IslandRoutes

[AZORES-Genealogy] Jozimas de Braga's brother found in Ponta Delgada question about inventario entry

2017-05-23 Thread IslandRoutes
This is a neat little discovery for me that I had to share. I think some others are also interested in the de Braga family of Maia, Ribeira Grande. Jacintho Jose de Braga, (b. 21 Sep 1806), Maia m. 26 Aug 1829, Maia to Rosa de Medeiros Pacehco (b. 4 Mar 1810, Maia) had 10 known children.