[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-24 Thread 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy
Thanks ever so much Bill!  This is great! With your info I located Pascoals 
death record.  I really appreciate it!


On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 10:15:40 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> It seems the priest wrote using plurals saying the her and her husband are 
> natives (naturais) and parishioners (freguezes) of this parish.  He may 
> have made an incorrect assumption about her birthplace.  I checked 
> Francisco's 1740 baptism and it clearly says the father is from this 
> parish, but she is from Piedade, Pico (as you said).  I would doubt there 
> is another couple in Calheta with these names (especially Heronima).  You 
> probably have it, but just in case it is here is the baptism I referred to. 
>   
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746_item1/P149.html
>
> I can't make out most of the rest, but I do not believe her parents are 
> named.  There is something about the soul of her son Pascoal (alma do seu 
> filho Pascoal da Souza).  I think there is also a reference to the souls of 
> her parents, but I don't see their names or parish given. Unfortunately, 
> neither of these records say where this couple was married.  
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:10:40 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>
>> P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married 
>>> Francisco De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children 
>>> were born in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco 
>>> Fernandes Pereira De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find 
>>> information on Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from 
>>> Piedade stretching from 1711-1736!  
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread bsei2816
It seems the priest wrote using plurals saying the her and her husband are 
natives (naturais) and parishioners (freguezes) of this parish.  He may 
have made an incorrect assumption about her birthplace.  I checked 
Francisco's 1740 baptism and it clearly says the father is from this 
parish, but she is from Piedade, Pico (as you said).  I would doubt there 
is another couple in Calheta with these names (especially Heronima).  You 
probably have it, but just in case it is here is the baptism I referred to. 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1730-1746_item1/P149.html

I can't make out most of the rest, but I do not believe her parents are 
named.  There is something about the soul of her son Pascoal (alma do seu 
filho Pascoal da Souza).  I think there is also a reference to the souls of 
her parents, but I don't see their names or parish given. Unfortunately, 
neither of these records say where this couple was married.  

Bill Seidler


On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:10:40 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married 
>> Francisco De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children 
>> were born in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco 
>> Fernandes Pereira De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find 
>> information on Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from 
>> Piedade stretching from 1711-1736!  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy
Okay. Perhaps I have just been lucky in the past, as I have often been able 
to get that info.  What was the sons name? That info also is helpful.
I appreciate it greatly Linda!

Jeremy

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy
*It figures. that puts her as born 1699.  Records of baptisms begin Oct 
1699 and I dont see her. Fantastic. UGH!*

*Cheri - are you able to make out the parents? I could not see filha.  This 
is particularly important since I wont be able to get the birth, and I 
cannot find her marriage (though now will look again)*

*IF it mentions Piedade or her parents how many lines down from the top is 
it?*


*THANKS*
On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread linda
hi Jeremy,

It's my observation that the obituary records typically mention a woman's 
parents only if she died having never married.  Once a woman married, her 
identity changed from being tied to her father/parents to being tied to her 
husband.  

I scanned the record for your ancestor, and after her age the rest of it 
looks to me like it is about her testament, masses, etc.  I didn't see any 
mention of her birthplace, but I think it mentions one of her sons by name.

hope that helps,

Linda

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:10:26 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> Hello! Tonight I was able to find her death record (while looking for 
> another ancestor!) TOO FUNNY :-) . 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780_item1/P49.html
>  I 
> think it says she died 20 Mar 1757. (Right before that big earthquake by 
> the way).  Am I right that she was aged 58 years? If not it looks like 
> 5_something. For some reason I cannot make out filha.  Its pretty sizable - 
> does anyone see who the parents are listed as?  This is important since I 
> have not yet found their marriage or her birth.  The other thing I am 
> trying to figure out is if anyone sees where she was born. Is it Piedade?
>
> THANKS!
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes you have the date. I think she was 58.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:02 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married
>> Francisco De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children
>> were born in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco
>> Fernandes Pereira De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find
>> information on Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from
>> Piedade stretching from 1711-1736!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy
P.S. That death record link I sent had her at the top left.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:34:32 AM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Is anyone related to Hyronima / Heronima Da Conaicao who married Francisco 
> De Souza Gularte? She was born in Piedade, Pico, and her children were born 
> in Calheta, Sao Jorge.  My ancestor was her son Francisco Fernandes Pereira 
> De Sousa whom was born in 1740.  I am trying to find information on 
> Heronima's birth, but there is a gap in the baptisms from Piedade 
> stretching from 1711-1736!  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Heronima Da Conaicao & Francisco De Souza Gularte

2016-09-19 Thread 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy
Hello! Tonight I was able to find her death record (while looking for 
another ancestor!) TOO FUNNY :-) . 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1750-1780_item1/P49.html
 I 
think it says she died 20 Mar 1757. (Right before that big earthquake by 
the way).  Am I right that she was aged 58 years? If not it looks like 
5_something. For some reason I cannot make out filha.  Its pretty sizable - 
does anyone see who the parents are listed as?  This is important since I 
have not yet found their marriage or her birth.  The other thing I am 
trying to figure out is if anyone sees where she was born. Is it Piedade?

THANKS!

Jeremy

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