I've been thinking about products and services like this for a while,
and want to ponder this question to the backstage community...
We've been talking about how DRM doesn't work, etc in other posts. Well
lets just say for this thread that DRM doesn't work and it just turns
consumers into
On 12/06/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By definition something that can be infinitely replicated is NOT a
scarce resource.
I'm afraid that's not a tenable argument.
You're thinking of the resource as the bits. In fact, the scarce
resource is the creativity which made the first copy. So
So - how, in your system when all media are free, do you reward
creativity? Or do you believe that creativity is not worth monetary
reward?
Most of what the media produces isnt creative: it is formulaic and
componentised in much the same way as any factory that assembles work on a
production
If the media was truly creative, it wouldn't struggle with how to make money
from its work. It is a confusion on the part of the media folk to think that
their work is somehow creative and unique.
Here we go again with the there are plenty of other ways to make
money / loads of other
Here we go again with the there are plenty of other ways to make
money / loads of other business models argument.
Just for the sake of accuracy ... I didn't actually say either of the above.
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Oh. Right. Sorry. wouldn't struggle with how to make money from its work.
I'm sure there's a distinction between that and would be able to come
up with a different business model
Cheers,
Rich.
Here we go again with the there are plenty of other ways to make
money / loads of other
Hey Rich
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Oh. Right. Sorry. wouldn't struggle with how to make money from its
work.
I'm sure there's a distinction between that and would be able to come
up with a different business model
There is a distinction because I'm not saying that people would be able to
come up with
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On 6/14/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been thinking about products and services like this for a while,
and want to ponder this question to the backstage community...
We've been talking about how DRM doesn't work, etc in other posts. Well
lets just say for this thread that DRM
On 14/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of what the media produces isn't creative: it is formulaic and
componentised in much the same way as any factory that assembles work on a
production line. Of course, media production needs to be financed, but it
isn't a scarce
Hi Ian,
What happens next? .. well most that you listed below is already
happening somewhere.
In my opinion, this is what happens next..
Your whole office, and anybody interested in the positive future of
the BBC, goes to the DG, or whomever now, and demands a budget to put
as
On 14/06/07, Stephen Deasey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Creating an artificial scarcity of bits and charging for them is just
a round about way of charging for a genuinely scarce resource: the
time and effort of creators. Because the scarce bits model no longer
works, creators will have to
On 14/06/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...What happens next?
Hopefully we will actually see some innovation!
Depending on the kind of media there are other ways of making money
other than charging for things that are copyable.
Software:
Charge for support
Charge for bespoke
On 14/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't say anything
about Coronation Street or things being popular being uncreative – I'm saying it doesn't take
anything exceptional to produce much of the media content we have today
Community created drama series shows, which could
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn’t say anything about Coronation Street or things being popular
being uncreative – I’m saying it doesn't take anything exceptional to
produce much of the media content we have today. Most people could
step into a media role and produce work that is as good as
Dave Crossland wrote:
Obscurity is the biggest problem new businesses face.
Popularitydelivers business opportunities. Everything that can be
digitised canbe freely shared. The easier it is to share and reuse a
work, the morepopular it will be. Restricted works will become less
popular
Andy wrote:
On 14/06/07, Mr I Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...What happens next?
Hopefully we will actually see some innovation!
I think there's actually a more pertinent question, which is this: Why
are people currently paying for things that they could get for free?
For example,
People are basically honest, and agree
with the idea that artists should get paid.
LOL. Ha ha ha Ha ha ha Ha ha ha.
I think there's actually a more pertinent question, which is this: Why
are people currently paying for things that they could get for free?
Even more pertinently, why are
Apparently today's rights-holder production companies believe that
DRMcan stop the mass market from sharing works. Probably not;
simplymaking the works All Rights Reserved does enough damage to
thepotential for the mass market, by criminalizing businesses that
findways to monetise the
Hi Tom!
Thanks for the excellent post, lots to think about :-)
On 15/06/07, Tom Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if the BBC were to adopt such a 'buy all rights in
perpetuity' model, it would mean making far, far fewer programmes,
since each programme would have to cost more (*much* more in
I think - as do many others, it seems - that people pirate because they want
interoperability, convenience of consumption on their own terms, and the
quality is often better to boot.
Me and my housemates all pay for a TV license but I don't have a TV in my
room (and the only person with a TV's
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