RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
For images and such like, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ which provides images and stuff for use on your own website. (Terms and conditions apply.) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 19:59 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the feed (again if these exist). Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being official and copyright notices). I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that I want to run on my own site. Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More episode information would be good though. Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I can do with it. Iain - Original Message From: Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query For programmes... Soon And atom and, hopefully, rdf Any more? On 20/8/07 15:38, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain
Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
On 21/08/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For images and such like, see http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ which provides images and stuff for use on your own website. (Terms and conditions apply.) It's not kept very up to date though... -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley *Sent:* 20 August 2007 19:59 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the feed (again if these exist). Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being official and copyright notices). I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that I want to run on my own site. Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More episode information would be good though. Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I can do with it. Iain - Original Message From: Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query For programmes... Soon And atom and, hopefully, rdf Any more? On 20/8/07 15:38, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, *Carlos Roman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xmlhttp://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *On Behalf Of *Ian Forrester *Sent:* 20 August 2007 14:16 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley *Sent:* 20 August 2007 09:44 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/http://www.yatterings.com/ -- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmUhttp://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU. -- For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Goodhttp://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.htmlthis month. -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
we're currently in the process of speccing out the data feeds out of programme support we've got definite plans for rss and atom and possibly json and maybe rdf (if our servers can take the strain) would be interested to know any details of the stuff you'd like to see... the more use cases the better cheers michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Iain Emsley Sent: Mon 8/20/2007 7:59 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the feed (again if these exist). Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being official and copyright notices). I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that I want to run on my own site. Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More episode information would be good though. Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I can do with it. Iain - Original Message From: Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query For programmes... Soon And atom and, hopefully, rdf Any more? On 20/8/07 15:38, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU . ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ winmail.dat
[backstage] RSS feeds query
A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/
RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU .
RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc 2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU .
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Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2Vj A21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU .
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For programmes... Soon And atom and, hopefully, rdf Any more? On 20/8/07 15:38, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2V jA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU .
RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the bbc domain? That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense. Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU . -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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I've worked on a number of BBC sites in a content capacity and I have to say the number of times just the sites I've worked on have re-published large numbers of pages (or elements of pages) with just micro-changes (sometimes not even visible ones, ie meta-data) is immense. So I would question whether a feed of all pages that have recently changed would be of much value, other than for statistical purposes. Unless you introduce ways of splicing or specifying within the dataset of course; then you could focus on areas that might get results that would of use. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 15:52 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the bbc domain? That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense. Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc 2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU . -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
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There are some screenscraping websites that will log changes to links in pages. These could be modified to disregard links that are part of the BBC page furniture, I suppose. Betsie does this, kind of, to a degree... http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/betsie/ (Warning: very, very old page) Of course, getting the content in state whereby it could be outputted to different formats is the place to start. This is happening, slowly. J On 20/8/07 15:52, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the bbc domain? That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense. Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2V jA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU .
Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
On 20/08/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the bbc domain? Not every page! However, just picking one page at random, http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/ - this has no feed but seems to comprise of a number of stories. My assumption is that you are using a CMS to do this - it wouldn't reduce the number of visitors to the site if there was an RSS feed, surely? As a big Drum and Bass fan then I would like a feed from http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/drumbass/ - if it were me doing this I would have a standard rss.xml file in each folder... That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense. Yeah, but if you use iGoogle or similar to monitor sites, they are invisible without the RSS feeds! For example, I had no idea when the Guardian changed their home page design, because I never look at it - I use the RSS feeds from the sections I want (Media, Technology) so I can avoid the stuff I don't want (Sport etc). Also, RSS is very easy for search engines to index, and you don't get onto the add stuff buttons of iGoogle without an RSS feed. Type in drum and bass for example and there's no 1Xtra (sorry, BBC Radio 1Xtra). Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why The main reason I use iGoogle is that I have six or seven PCs that I use over the days - a few servers, PCs in different offices, laptops etc - iGoogle allows me to keep my stuff in one place and access it as I require. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 20 August 2007 15:31 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ian Forrester *Sent:* 20 August 2007 14:16 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Iain Emsley *Sent:* 20 August 2007 09:44 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com -- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it nowhttp://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU . -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
There's no doubt that a rss feed for logical queries like /worldservice/news/caribbean/weather/ would make a lot of sense but as Jason was highlighting, different parts of the BBC are at different stages and any pan BBC project to unite all would be troublesome at best. If you also times in the fact most people still don't fully get RSS any work in this area would be low on the priority list. Now that's the negative side out the way. Things will get better, our bbc 2.0 project will bring the cms's closer together or at least form a layer in between so it won't matter. Also the use of RSS is growing and with stuff like igoogle, particls, etc. We're seeing lots more use of RSS without it being asked for by name. RSS is becoming part of the fabric of the web. And I just want to add RSS on a mobile phone with unlimited (1gig limit) is awesome. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 August 2007 16:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query On 20/08/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand you Brian, you want a rss feed of every page published on the bbc domain? Not every page! However, just picking one page at random, http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/ - this has no feed but seems to comprise of a number of stories. My assumption is that you are using a CMS to do this - it wouldn't reduce the number of visitors to the site if there was an RSS feed, surely? As a big Drum and Bass fan then I would like a feed from http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/drumbass/ - if it were me doing this I would have a standard rss.xml file in each folder... That would be useful if you wanted a log of when a page has changed and when for example (meta about the page I guess) But for holding data I think the idea of using xhtml with lots of Microformats or rdf/a makes better sense. Yeah, but if you use iGoogle or similar to monitor sites, they are invisible without the RSS feeds! For example, I had no idea when the Guardian changed their home page design, because I never look at it - I use the RSS feeds from the sections I want (Media, Technology) so I can avoid the stuff I don't want (Sport etc). Also, RSS is very easy for search engines to index, and you don't get onto the add stuff buttons of iGoogle without an RSS feed. Type in drum and bass for example and there's no 1Xtra (sorry, BBC Radio 1Xtra). Others may disagree, but I'm interested in why The main reason I use iGoogle is that I have six or seven PCs that I use over the days - a few servers, PCs in different offices, laptops etc - iGoogle allows me to keep my stuff in one place and access it as I require. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 August 2007 15:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query
Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query
It was mainly programme data that I was after and any news/publicity stuff that the BBC has on the show (such as renewals and so on). I realise its a slightly different case that say Dr Who which you own so have a richer feed for. Also (runs for cover with tin helmet) any links to watch it again type thing in the feed (again if these exist). Also is there an image repository or a department to contact to get images/logos to use o a page (with the obvious mention of any pages not being official and copyright notices). I'm just having a play with a few things to get a feel for a small project that I want to run on my own site. Thanks for the other link, Carlos, I'll hook up to the feed tomorrow. More episode information would be good though. Ian, I'll probably have a better idea once I know what's on offer and what I can do with it. Iain - Original Message From: Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Monday, 20 August, 2007 3:53:44 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query Re: [backstage] RSS feeds query For programmes... Soon And atom and, hopefully, rdf Any more? On 20/8/07 15:38, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hahahaha. You do know that a very large proportion of pages from bbc.co.uk (rather than news.bbc.co.uk) are published by hand, right? J On 20/8/07 15:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a generic RSS feed for every BBC page that is published? On 20/08/07, Carlos Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is always the Heroes Radio Show podcast http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/bbc7/heroes/rss.xml Not much info about each episode in the feed though. -C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 20 August 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] RSS feeds query I'm not sure but I'll pass it on. What kind of information were you hoping for? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Iain Emsley Sent: 20 August 2007 09:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS feeds query A quick query. Will the BBC be producing any feeds for the Heroes website at all or BBC Three? Since the demise of the cult site, I'm trying to get the various bits of information together in RSS form as a bit of an experiment. Thanks, Iain www.yatterings.com http://www.yatterings.com/ Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTEydmViNG02BF9TAzIxMTQ3MTcxOTAEc2VjA21haWwEc2xrA3RhZ2xpbmU . ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/