[Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
Hi! I've got two LTO-3 drives and with one autochanger device. Backups of dozends of clients into several pools works well, in general. My Bacula version is 1.38.7. There remains one annoying problem: I've defined a pool with two tapes for daily snapshot backups of some data of temporary interest from several clients. For simplicity, all snapshot jobs are defined identically. As a consequence, they all have the same start time. The idea is, that Bacula uses the first tape, until it's full, then continues with the second tape. The retention periods are choosed in a way that, when the second tape will be completed (Full, Used etc), all data on the first tape will be out of time, thus the first tape can be recycled automatically. And the other way round... But, good idea -- bad conversion: Bacula uses the tapes in an arbitrary order. Some day, only one tape is used. Another day, both tapes are used. As a consequence, when tape recycling is needed some day, both tapes will contain actual backup data. F.i. have a look at the actual situation (the jobs start daily at 20:05 pm, using the same Schedule and JobDefs) Pool: Snapshot +-+-+-+--+-+-+ | MediaId | ... | VolBytes| VolFiles | ... | LastWritten | +-+-+---+-+--+-+-+ | 54 | ... | 497,058,209,311 | 520 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:14:29 | | 86 | ... | 110,145,463,630 | 115 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:19:40 | +-+-+-+--+-+-+ You can see: Tape 54 (the first in pool) is used mostly, but not exclusively, although the tape is still in Append state. I can't find a hint whether/how I can Bacula instruct to use the volumes of a pool consecutively. I'd expect that this would be the default behaviour, but, obviously, it's not. Is there any solution with Bacula? Best regards, Robert ++ German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence ++ Robert Wirth, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, D-66123 Saarbruecken @office: +49-681-302-5078/5572 ++ @fax: +49-681-302-5341 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ http://www.dfki.de/~wirth ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Donation administration
Hello, As you know, for some time, Bacula has been able to accept donations. In the first few months (Sept - Nov 2005) we received a good number of donations totaling something like $600. However, since November there have been no donations, with the exception of one large contribution for the migration project (many thanks). These donations come into a PayPal account which was originally opened in my name, and now is attached to Bacula. To facilitate future donations, and to move the current money out of PayPal, I am planning to open a bank account for Bacula (in the name Bacula) here. I have looked at creating a foundation and other such structures for Bacula, but all are complicated, expensive ($2000 - $5000 to start), and require lots of paper work. Considering the rather modest amounts of money, such a venture would be a waste of time and cost more than the current donation totals. As an alternative, I can create an association, which here in Switzerland, is something I can do myself, has almost no administration, and is relatively simple to do. To open a bank account, I need only a set of articles of association, which define the objective of the association and the persons who are the directors of the association. These articles of association can also include any special considerations, such as restrictions, who can be members, ... Certain documents for the bank account will be in French since that is the official language here. However, the articles of association will be written in English. I intend to create these articles of association for Bacula, which is the reason I am writing this email. I can, of course, do it myself, but I would much rather have the participation and input of the Bacula users. If anyone would like to help with this or participate in it, please let me know. I suspect that we can create our articles of association from numerous examples of such documents that already exist for Open Source projects. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Problem with compression
Hi, I have a HP Dat Storage 72/36 (DDS 4) and I have installed Bacula 1.38.9 (02 May 2006). Bacula works very well, but I have a problem with compression hardware of my DAT. If I check compression of my DAT with the command mt -f /dev/nst0 datcompression (after a umount command from bconsole) I get: Compression on. I have a Backup of 38 GB (There are various type of files (doc,xls,mpeg...) ). When I run the Job for that backup, I must insert two tape!!! In the first Tape there's a 36GB, and remaining GB in the second tape. The compression seems not to work. How can I check if the compression is active and working during a job? Can you help me? Thanks. Andrea Soracchi Netbuilder S.r.l. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula docs, disaster recovery cd creation
On Thursday 08 June 2006 21:35, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Hi - sorry for not going through an official bacula list, but this is a really quick thing and i didn't seen much point in signing up for bacula-devel just to send it.. Please forward this to whomever handles the documentation for Bacula.. On the 'Disaster Recovery Using Bacula' guide (http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#_ChapterR escue), it mentions the following under 'Creating a Rescue CD-ROM': --Quote-- * to capture the current state of the hard disks on your system, so that they can be easily restored from pre-generated scripts. Note, this is not done by any other rescue CDROM, as far as I am aware. - There is another project that's been around for what seems to be around 6 years, called 'Make CD-ROM Recovery' that does just this, and actually has many of the same features listed in the primary goals of this section. I used to use it quite successfully as my primary backup system a few years ago.. http://mkcdrec.ota.be/ Considering MKCDREC is definitely not in the same league as Bacula, I don't know if you want to drop the Note quoted above or not, but just in case you have not come across such a thing i thought it might be good to point it out. Yes, you are right. This is the first and only CDROM that I have seen that attempts to do the same thing as the Bacula CDROM (build it from your current system; write scripts to repartition and reformat your harddisk if you wish). In many ways, what the author has done is much more complete than what the Bacula CDROM has. At the same time, there are a good number of things that I would change (e.g. he has so much print output during building the CDROM image that it is totally impossible to know if there were any errors or warning; he overrides my choice of colors in the shell window making it almost impossible for *me* to read some of the output, ...). I'm not criticizing his work, on the contrary, it is very clean and in many respects much better than the Bacula code. I'm going to contact the author to see if we could have some kind of working relationship ... Thanks for the pointer. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
Andrea, Do you have software compression on? If so, turn it off. Two types of compression (eg software and hardware) are inefficient. Other then that, I have no idea. Kind regards, John Gerritse (linux) Systeembeheer ICT Services Sogeti Nederland B.V. W: http://www.sogeti.nl ''~`` ( o o ) +--.oooO--(_)--Oooo.--+ | This email was brought to you by LINUX| |.oooO| |( ) Oooo.| +-\ (( )+ \_)) / (_/ We don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents. Andrea Soracchi wrote: Hi, I have a HP Dat Storage 72/36 (DDS 4) and I have installed Bacula 1.38.9 (02 May 2006). Bacula works very well, but I have a problem with compression hardware of my DAT. If I check compression of my DAT with the command mt -f /dev/nst0 datcompression (after a umount command from bconsole) I get: Compression on. I have a Backup of 38 GB (There are various type of files (doc,xls,mpeg...) ). When I run the Job for that backup, I must insert two tape!!! In the first Tape there's a 36GB, and remaining GB in the second tape. The compression seems not to work. How can I check if the compression is active and working during a job? Can you help me? Thanks. Andrea Soracchi Netbuilder S.r.l. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users Disclaimer: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of Sogeti Nederland B.V. or its Group members. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
Hi, On 6/12/2006 10:40 AM, Robert Wirth wrote: Hi! I've got two LTO-3 drives and with one autochanger device. Backups of dozends of clients into several pools works well, in general. My Bacula version is 1.38.7. There remains one annoying problem: I've defined a pool with two tapes for daily snapshot backups of some data of temporary interest from several clients. For simplicity, all snapshot jobs are defined identically. As a consequence, they all have the same start time. The idea is, that Bacula uses the first tape, until it's full, then continues with the second tape. The retention periods are choosed in a way that, when the second tape will be completed (Full, Used etc), all data on the first tape will be out of time, thus the first tape can be recycled automatically. And the other way round... But, good idea -- bad conversion: Bacula uses the tapes in an arbitrary order. Some day, only one tape is used. Another day, both tapes are used. As a consequence, when tape recycling is needed some day, both tapes will contain actual backup data. Difficult question. Prefer Mounted Volumes might be one way to solve that, but I suppose you already use that setting (as it's the default). The way I'd try to solve this is by using (at least) one more volume than you have drives that could mount that type of media. Of course you might also try setting different Media Types for the drives but that will make the normal setup much more complicated. Finally, it might be worth a try to select one distinct drive for these backups but I don't know if this works with normal autochanger operations. Arno F.i. have a look at the actual situation (the jobs start daily at 20:05 pm, using the same Schedule and JobDefs) Pool: Snapshot +-+-+-+--+-+-+ | MediaId | ... | VolBytes| VolFiles | ... | LastWritten | +-+-+---+-+--+-+-+ | 54 | ... | 497,058,209,311 | 520 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:14:29 | | 86 | ... | 110,145,463,630 | 115 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:19:40 | +-+-+-+--+-+-+ You can see: Tape 54 (the first in pool) is used mostly, but not exclusively, although the tape is still in Append state. I can't find a hint whether/how I can Bacula instruct to use the volumes of a pool consecutively. I'd expect that this would be the default behaviour, but, obviously, it's not. Is there any solution with Bacula? Best regards, Robert ++ German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence ++ Robert Wirth, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, D-66123 Saarbruecken @office: +49-681-302-5078/5572 ++ @fax: +49-681-302-5341 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ http://www.dfki.de/~wirth ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
On Monday 12 June 2006 10:40, Robert Wirth wrote: Hi! I've got two LTO-3 drives and with one autochanger device. Backups of dozends of clients into several pools works well, in general. My Bacula version is 1.38.7. There remains one annoying problem: I've defined a pool with two tapes for daily snapshot backups of some data of temporary interest from several clients. For simplicity, all snapshot jobs are defined identically. As a consequence, they all have the same start time. The idea is, that Bacula uses the first tape, until it's full, then continues with the second tape. The retention periods are choosed in a way that, when the second tape will be completed (Full, Used etc), all data on the first tape will be out of time, thus the first tape can be recycled automatically. And the other way round... But, good idea -- bad conversion: Bacula uses the tapes in an arbitrary order. I don't think that the above is true. See below. Some day, only one tape is used. Another day, both tapes are used. Well, you have not shown this, and depending how many jobs you run, and what tape is currently in the drive, this could be perfectly normal. As a consequence, when tape recycling is needed some day, both tapes will contain actual backup data. F.i. have a look at the actual situation (the jobs start daily at 20:05 pm, using the same Schedule and JobDefs) Pool: Snapshot +-+-+-+--+-+-+ | MediaId | ... | VolBytes| VolFiles | ... | LastWritten | +-+-+---+-+--+-+-+ | 54 | ... | 497,058,209,311 | 520 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:14:29 | | 86 | ... | 110,145,463,630 | 115 | ... | 2006-06-09 20:19:40 | +-+-+-+--+-+-+ You can see: Tape 54 (the first in pool) is used mostly, but not exclusively, although the tape is still in Append state. I can't find a hint whether/how I can Bacula instruct to use the volumes of a pool consecutively. I'd expect that this would be the default behaviour, but, obviously, it's not. I think the basic problem is that there is really no definition of consecutive. I suspect that by consecutive, you mean in the order that you see the volume list printed, but that order is in general totally arbitrary and depends a bit on the whims of the underlying database engine and what method of indexing you choose. The whole issue starts to become emensely complicated if you consider that a volume can be moved from one pool to another, and that when a Volume is renamed (if I am not mistaken), the old volume record is deleted and a new one is created. Basing consecutiveness on MediaId will not work very well as the SQL gurus can confirm since the MediaIds are not guaranteed to be consecutive. In fact, if you ever delete any volumes, in most SQL engines (e.g. like MySQL), the next volume created will take on the lowest free MediaId. Is there any solution with Bacula? I don't think there exists any current solution because you have not precisely defined the problem. Bacula does have a very well defined algorithm (though quite complex depending on the circumstances such as what volumes are currently in use) for determining what the next volume will be. It is possible that this algorithm can be improved, refined, or even made more predictable, but IMO any attempt to guess or to know what the next volume to be used is destined to fail at some point. I suggest you rethink what you are doing and try to find a way to let Bacula manage the volumes. If you want to do it yourself, you can, but as the manual states, I provide the means to do it, but it probably won't be easy. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
Kern Sibbald wrote: Basing consecutiveness on MediaId will not work very well as the SQL gurus can confirm since the MediaIds are not guaranteed to be consecutive. In fact, if you ever delete any volumes, in most SQL engines (e.g. like MySQL), the next volume created will take on the lowest free MediaId. I'm pretty sure that the normal way of working for an SQL engine is to always use a higher number when creating new records. That's how the serial type in PostgreSQL works. I don't think an RDBMS tries to 'recycle' primary keys. This might have very nasty side effects when there would still be some foreign keys point to that primary key. Of course, I don't know if this MediaID is in fact a primary key. Kind regards, Jo ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:29:27 +0200, Andrea Soracchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I have a HP Dat Storage 72/36 (DDS 4) and I have installed Bacula 1.38.9 (02 May 2006). Bacula works very well, but I have a problem with compression hardware of my DAT. If I check compression of my DAT with the command mt -f /dev/nst0 datcompression (after a umount command from bconsole) I get: Compression on. I have a Backup of 38 GB (There are various type of files (doc,xls,mpeg...) ). When I run the Job for that backup, I must insert two tape!!! In the first Tape there's a 36GB, and remaining GB in the second tape. The compression seems not to work. How can I check if the compression is active and working during a job? Can you help me? How many GB of mpegs (or other multimedia files)? The hardware cannot compress these files (in fact DDS 4 hardware compression will probably make them larger). __Martin ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
I'm pretty sure that the normal way of working for an SQL engine is to always use a higher number when creating new records. That's how the serial type in PostgreSQL works. I don't think an RDBMS tries to My experience is the same with MySQL: MediaIDs of deleted volumes aren't reused. A new volume gets a MediaID higher than the highest one ever used. Regards, Robert Robert Wirth, Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3, D-66123 Saarbruecken @office: +49-681-302-5078/5572 ++ @fax: +49-681-302-5341 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ http://www.dfki.de/~wirth ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Expanding the Job database table entry + manual license
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: 3. Currently the manual is licensed under a somewhat restrictive license that does not permit commercial reproduction of the manual without explicit authorization. This means that the manual does not mean the definition of Free Software. My idea in keeping the license commercially restricted was so that someone could possibly publish the manual (or use it as the basis of something to be published) and that a part of the revenues would revert to the project. However, I am now convinced that there is little chance that someone would want to publish the manual without working with us and that it is better to change the license to GPL version 2. There are, of course, all sorts of other open source licenses, but given that the source is GPL v2, this is the logical license for the manual as well. Comments? Thanks for reconsidering. This will allow the documentation to be shipped with Debian again. Kindly Christoph ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied
bacula client version 1.38 windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5 fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across directories) getting the error ERR=Access is denied while backing up this client. i couldnt find any online info addressing this. i eventually deducted the problem to be subtrees that did not have at least read permissions for the local NT user System were unreadable by the bacula client. just sharing my findings so others might benefit. jimbox. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Netware File Trusstee
Hi folks, I´m already able to do netware backup thru NCPFS protocol (mounting the volumes in a linux server). However, there is a problem: the backuped files don´t keep their trustees!! (novell permissions). Anyone can solve the problem? Best Regards, Heitor Faria Brazil - SERPRO ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Resume interrupted jobs
We are testing Bacula to see if it is possible to use it as a software for backups of an application thats uses Oracle as its database. We are planning to make full backup of the database off line every night. But, during all days, we are planning to make backup of the log files, for example, each 30 minutes. If any problem occurs with the database, we must restore the database from the backup tape of an especific date and then aplly all the log files since the same date. But if any problem occurs with the server that is running Bacula and we have to re-start the server we cannot loose the backups of the log files. For example, today is wednesday, May 24th and we have to recover the database since last friday, May 19th. And on monday, May 22th we had to re-start the server that runs Bacula. As we understood, we are going to loose all the sequence of the backups of the log files and we will not be able to recover tha database. independent of the reason why he have to restart the bacula server, does anybody knows if have a way to resume a interrupted job? - Original Message - From: Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cassiano Pilipavicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Aírton - Lifemed [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ricardo Takeshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Resume interrupted jobs On Wed, 24 May 2006, Cassiano Pilipavicius wrote: Sometimes the tape get locked in the device. Why? Is something holding it active? And we need to reboot the backup server to eject the tape. Why? Almost every tape drive has some magic code to force an eject. (Try pressing the eject button 8 times or for 8 seconds) And we also have power fails in our office sometimes. If the power is unreliable, UPSes are cheap insurance. We are not using bacula in fact, just testing, so we didn't know how often this will happen. The answer to that is always at the most inconvenient possible moment Power in the UK countryside is quite unreliable and we would never complete backups without use of large UPS units keeping all the servers running. AB ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Resume interrupted jobs
We are testing Bacula to see if it is possible to use it as a software for backups of an application thats uses Oracle as its database. We are planning to make full backup of the database off line every night. But, during all days, we are planning to make backup of the log files, for example, each 30 minutes. If any problem occurs with the database, we must restore the database from the backup tape of an especific date and then aplly all the log files since the same date. But if any problem occurs with the server that is running Bacula and we have to re-start the server we cannot loose the backups of the log files. For example, today is wednesday, May 24th and we have to recover the database since last friday, May 19th. And on monday, May 22th we had to re-start the server that runs Bacula. As we understood, we are going to loose all the sequence of the backups of the log files and we will not be able to recover tha database. independent of the reason why he have to restart the bacula server, does anybody knows if have a way to resume a interrupted job? - Original Message - From: Alan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cassiano Pilipavicius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Aírton - Lifemed [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ricardo Takeshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Resume interrupted jobs On Wed, 24 May 2006, Cassiano Pilipavicius wrote: Sometimes the tape get locked in the device. Why? Is something holding it active? And we need to reboot the backup server to eject the tape. Why? Almost every tape drive has some magic code to force an eject. (Try pressing the eject button 8 times or for 8 seconds) And we also have power fails in our office sometimes. If the power is unreliable, UPSes are cheap insurance. We are not using bacula in fact, just testing, so we didn't know how often this will happen. The answer to that is always at the most inconvenient possible moment Power in the UK countryside is quite unreliable and we would never complete backups without use of large UPS units keeping all the servers running. AB ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] rerunning deleted full backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Silver Salonen wrote: I just accidentally deleted the monthly full backup made last night (and realized the mistake afterwards). Is there a way to upgrade the tonight's incremental to full again? You can automaticly re-run failed levels again. If it succesfully ran the backup and then you manually deleted it I'm guessing you'll have to manually run the full backup yourself; just run the job from the console and modify the parameters before telling it it's OK to run. - -- Chris Crowther Developer JM Crowther Ltd. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEg/BIz8bl0gyT/hERAriQAJ0cdVN+C9n8XAkyxEFQlnK87/4PCQCdEXMH wZSJmVMh/hi3z36TAmqoymE= =6axq -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Chris Crowther n:Crowther;Chris org:JM Crowther Ltd adr:;;23 Longship Way;Maldon;Essex;CM9 6UG;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Developer tel;work:+44 (0)1621 850295 / +44 (0)845 8900997 tel;fax:+44 (0)1621 850300 tel;home:+44 (0)1621 857034 tel;cell:+44 (0)7803 168740 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.jm-crowther.co.uk/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] can't install properly on suse 9.0
Hi people! I have one problem on Suse. I have satisfied all the dependencies using rpm's and am now trying to install using rpm's from the bacula sourceforge site. But this is what happens when I try to install the bacula-mysql-1.38.9-1.su92.i586.rpm :~/RPM/bacula # rpm -Uvh --force bacula-mysql-1.38.9-1.su92.i586.rpm warning: bacula-mysql-1.38.9-1.su92.i586.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 10a792ad error: Failed dependencies: libmysqlclient_r.so.12 is needed by bacula-mysql-1.38.9-1 But I have already installed mysql-shared wich provides that lib: :~/RPM/bacula # find / -name libmysqlclient_r.so.12 find: /media/dvd: No medium found find: /media/floppy: No medium found /usr/lib64/libmysqlclient_r.so.12 OS: Suse 9.0 x86_64 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] replication/migration strategy for multiple bacula servers
Hello, all! Ive got 2 bacula servers, one of which is a primary box doing all the backing-up and the other is supposed to be an exact copy of the first one (its located in a hot site facility far away). As a part of the disaster recovery plan, I would like to make sure that the second box always have a more or less (+/-30 min old) replica of the data on the first box so that I can cut over to it once the disaster strikes. What is the most proper way of doing this in Bacula world? Or should be I be using rsync and friends instead? Kern mentioned migration jobs in one of his previous responses to someone. Could that be the answer and if yes, is this feature already available? Thank you in advance. Best Regards, Mark Gimelfarb. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Using Multiple Disks
In the documentation, it's advised to use different Media Type values for each
device
(File1, File2, ...). From what I understand, if you don't, you might meet some
problems
where the Director will try to access, for example, to Device SD_FULL to write
your
incremental volumes.
This will lead to some errors. I got one this week actually, doing the same as
you,
migrating from one disk device, to two disk devices, forgetting to set the
correct spool
in one of the Job resource definitions.
The errors was the following (it took me some time to figure out what was
wrong):
05-Jun 03:26 backup-dir: Start Backup JobId 2964,
Job=catalog.2006-06-05_01.15.01
05-Jun 03:26 backup-sd: Volume FILE_DAY_0004 previously written, moving to
end of data.
05-Jun 03:30 backup-dir: catalog.2006-06-05_01.15.01 Fatal error: Volume Files
at 1 being set to 0 for Volume FILE_DAY_0004. This is incorrect.
05-Jun 03:30 backup-sd: catalog.2006-06-05_01.15.01 Fatal error: Error getting
Volume info: 1992 Update Media error. VolFiles=0, CatFiles=1
05-Jun 03:30 prophecy-fd: catalog.2006-06-05_01.15.01 Fatal error: Bad status
102 returned from Storage Daemon.
05-Jun 03:30 backup-dir: catalog.2006-06-05_01.15.01 Error: Bacula 1.38.3
(04Jan06): 05-Jun-2006 03:30:26
Volume file FILE_DAY_0004 was and had to be in one spool, but the above job
tried to
access it in the other pool, which lead to this error. However FILE_DAY_0004
was created
and filed in the bad spool directory, and I had to remove and hope nothing is
wrong in the
database.
Scott Ruckh wrote:
Device {
Name = SD_FULL
Media Type = File
Archive Device = /BACKUPS/Full
LabelMedia = yes; # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
Random Access = Yes;
AutomaticMount = yes; # when device opened, read it
RemovableMedia = no;
AlwaysOpen = no;
}
Device {
Name = SD_INCR
Media Type = File
Archive Device = /BACKUPS/Incremental
LabelMedia = yes; # lets Bacula label unlabeled media
Random Access = Yes;
AutomaticMount = yes; # when device opened, read it
RemovableMedia = no;
AlwaysOpen = no;
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[Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
Hi All, I seem to have run across a problem when storing Full and Differential backups on tape and Incrementals on disk, when combined with re-running missed levels. If Bacula upgrades the job to either Full or Differential from an Incremental, because of a missed job, it tries to use the wrong storage device, ie it uses the File one that it would have been using for the Incremental job. It does change the Pool to the correct one, probably because I've told the Job which Pools are used for Full and Differential. On a normal scheduled backup, without any problems, the storage is overriden within the Schedule (multiple jobs use the tape library for their Full and Differentials, but there's several Pools, so I set which Pool a job should be using in the Job then just modify the storage in the schedule). Is it the case that you can't combine the two; or if you do you have to put up with a Full backup going to where an Incremental would? -- Chris Crowther Developer JM Crowther Ltd. begin:vcard fn:Chris Crowther n:Crowther;Chris org:JM Crowther Ltd adr:;;23 Longship Way;Maldon;Essex;CM9 6UG;UK email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Developer tel;work:+44 (0)1621 850295 / +44 (0)845 8900997 tel;fax:+44 (0)1621 850300 tel;home:+44 (0)1621 857034 tel;cell:+44 (0)7803 168740 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.jm-crowther.co.uk/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] what user should be use to start bacula?
Hi i have a bacula 1.36.3 installed in my Debian linux server for testing. but i found i can't start the bacula-dir daemon by the script in /etc/init.d but when i start it manually like /usr/local/bacula/bacula-dir /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf it works. only the diractor has sunch problem. i had check the permission of the program and configuration files, all should be fine, and in the init script, it use user=nobody and group=nobody to start all daemons. i wonder it would be a problem. pls. help!! thanks!! Joseph ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] update slots fails
Linux bacula 2.4.25_pre7-gss-r3 #8 Mo Mär 7 09:53:29 CET 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux 1000 OK: bacula-dir Version: 1.38.9 (02 May 2006) Hello list, my problem is that the first *update slots=8 scan storage=Autoloader does not work (the second always does!) *update slots=8 scan storage=Autoloader 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Connecting to Director backup.intra.melle.de:9101 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 1000 OK: bacula-dir Version: 1.38.9 (02 May 2006) 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Enter a period to cancel a command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: update slots=8 scan storage=Autoloader 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Using default Catalog name=MyCatalog DB=bacula 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Connecting to Storage daemon Autoloader at backup.intra.melle.de:9103 ... 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3306 Issuing autochanger slots command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Device VS160 has 0 slots. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: No slots in changer to scan. *update slots=8 scan storage=Autoloader 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: update slots=8 scan storage=Autoloader 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Connecting to Storage daemon Autoloader at backup.intra.melle.de:9103 ... 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3306 Issuing autochanger slots command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Device VS160 has 8 slots. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Connecting to Storage daemon Autoloader at backup.intra.melle.de:9103 ... 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded drive 0 command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3302 Autochanger loaded drive 0, result: nothing loaded. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3306 Issuing autochanger list command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Connecting to Storage daemon Autoloader at backup.intra.melle.de:9103 ... 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded drive 0 command. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3302 Autochanger loaded drive 0, result: nothing loaded. 07-Jun 09:30 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 8, drive 0 command. 07-Jun 09:31 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3305 Autochanger load slot 8, drive 0, status is OK. 07-Jun 09:31 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded drive 0 command. 07-Jun 09:31 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3302 Autochanger loaded drive 0, result is Slot 8. 07-Jun 09:31 bacula-dir: RunBefore: 3001 Volume=Mi_1-s8 Slot=8 07-Jun 09:31 bacula-dir: RunBefore: Catalog record for Volume Mi_1-s8 updated to reference slot 8. Best regards Thomas --- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Melle Service GmbH i.A. Thomas Sturm eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: 05522 967-160 Fax: 05522 967-149 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows NT Error: ERR=Access is denied
On Mon, 29 May 2006, jimbox wrote: bacula client version 1.38 windows NT 4.0 SBS 4.5 fyi: i was persistently (and inconsistently across directories) getting the error ERR=Access is denied while backing up this client. i couldnt find any online info addressing this. i eventually deducted the problem to be subtrees that did not have at least read permissions for the local NT user System were unreadable by the bacula client. What user is the Bacula client running as? There is a backup ID which is supposed to be able to traverse almost everywhere. AB ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Thanks, David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:16 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Friday 09 June 2006 21:21, Wilson, David wrote: Greetings, I am working with using the python functionality of bacula and I am running into a problem with the DirStartUp.py script. Whenever I startup bacula, or restart the python engine I receive the following error: 09-Jun 15:14 bkup1-roc-dir: ERROR in pythonlib.c:131 Could not import Python script /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp. Python disabled. When I attempt to run the script manually I receive: Traceback (most recent call last): File DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import sys, bacula, time ImportError: No module named bacula I did compile bacula with -with-python and I received no errors while installing in. Any ideas?? Please see the Python chapter of the development manual -- in particular the Python Configuration section. I have added several paragraphs that explain this problem. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
On Monday 12 June 2006 12:10, Jo wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: Basing consecutiveness on MediaId will not work very well as the SQL gurus can confirm since the MediaIds are not guaranteed to be consecutive. In fact, if you ever delete any volumes, in most SQL engines (e.g. like MySQL), the next volume created will take on the lowest free MediaId. I'm pretty sure that the normal way of working for an SQL engine is to always use a higher number when creating new records. That's how the serial type in PostgreSQL works. I don't think an RDBMS tries to 'recycle' primary keys. This might have very nasty side effects when there would still be some foreign keys point to that primary key. Of course, I don't know if this MediaID is in fact a primary key. Using the next higher key number may be how PostgreSQL does it, but I would hesitate to call this the normal way of working since there are probably many more MySQL installations, and I can assure you that MySQL has no problem reassigning a previously used ID at least when using the MyISAM indexes as I am. In any case, what is normal is not very important. What counts is that you can never be 100% sure how the ID will be assigned since it is up to the DB to decide, and to the best of my knowledge there is no external standard that requires anything one way or another. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
Hi, On 6/8/2006 10:08 AM, Chris Crowther wrote: Hi All, I seem to have run across a problem when storing Full and Differential backups on tape and Incrementals on disk, when combined with re-running missed levels. Ah yes. I knew what you was aiming at at this point :-( If Bacula upgrades the job to either Full or Differential from an Incremental, because of a missed job, it tries to use the wrong storage device, ie it uses the File one that it would have been using for the Incremental job. It does change the Pool to the correct one, probably because I've told the Job which Pools are used for Full and Differential. On a normal scheduled backup, without any problems, the storage is overriden within the Schedule (multiple jobs use the tape library for their Full and Differentials, but there's several Pools, so I set which Pool a job should be using in the Job then just modify the storage in the schedule). Is it the case that you can't combine the two; or if you do you have to put up with a Full backup going to where an Incremental would? Yes and yes ;-) Depending on what you want. Admittedly, the best solution would be 'Full Backup Storage=', 'Differential Backup storage=' and 'Incremental Backup Storage=' directives in the job resource. In the long term, I'd like to see the ability to change the job setup dynamically using python events. As of now, I decided to go the manual way: I create volumes manually (I don't use file storage) and, when a job level is automatically elevated, I usually notice the stuck backup job in reasonable time and manually cancel that job and re-run the job with the necessary settings by hand. I wouldn't do this at customer sites, though, where there's noone around who could handle that. Arno ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How enforce Bacula to use tapes one after another?
Kern Sibbald wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 12:10, Jo wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: Basing consecutiveness on MediaId will not work very well as the SQL gurus can confirm since the MediaIds are not guaranteed to be consecutive. In fact, if you ever delete any volumes, in most SQL engines (e.g. like MySQL), the next volume created will take on the lowest free MediaId. I'm pretty sure that the normal way of working for an SQL engine is to always use a higher number when creating new records. That's how the serial type in PostgreSQL works. I don't think an RDBMS tries to 'recycle' primary keys. This might have very nasty side effects when there would still be some foreign keys point to that primary key. Of course, I don't know if this MediaID is in fact a primary key. Using the next higher key number may be how PostgreSQL does it, but I would hesitate to call this the normal way of working since there are probably many more MySQL installations, and I can assure you that MySQL has no problem reassigning a previously used ID at least when using the MyISAM indexes as I am. In any case, what is normal is not very important. What counts is that you can never be 100% sure how the ID will be assigned since it is up to the DB to decide, and to the best of my knowledge there is no external standard that requires anything one way or another. Hi Kern, You are right, it's not a good idea to base a decision on something Bacula doesn't have control over. A DB could come up with a number at random, check if it has not been used yet and use that, but usually it's more efficient to go through them sequentially. Kind regards, Jo ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Client console restrictions
On Monday 12 June 2006 13:09, David Rodriguez Demelos wrote:
I'm a new bacula user and I have a little problem with client console.
I have configured the client console restrictions in bacula-dir.conf like
this:
...
Console {
Name = Client Name
Password =
JobACL = Job Client Name, RestoreFiles-Linux
ClientACL = client-fd
StorageACL = My Storage
ScheduleACL = *all*
PoolACL = *all*
FileSetACL = Linux
CatalogACL = MyCatalog
CommandACL = run, q, quit, restore, status
}
...
With this configuration I want the client console only can use its jobs.
When I execute run jobs from client it work ok, but when I execute a
restore job from client with bconsole program and select the option number
3 (Enter list of comma separated JobIds to select), I can select a other
client job. Bacula launch a error message (bacula can not use this job),
but the restore process continue and finally it restore this backup in the
first client computer. This is very dangeraous, because any client can get
another client data.
Bacula should not allow the user to use JobIds from another client, so this
sounds like a bug. However, you will need to provide me with specific output
showing this problem as well as a bit of information about your setup.
Please see the Support Page of the Bacula web site. In particular without
knowing what Bacula version you are using, I cannot even start ...
How I can configure this for to solve this problem?
Thanks.
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Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
Arno Lehmann wrote: Yes and yes ;-) Depending on what you want. It to work properly ;) Admittedly, the best solution would be 'Full Backup Storage=', 'Differential Backup storage=' and 'Incremental Backup Storage=' directives in the job resource. Strangely enough I was sat there thinking I wish there was an equivalent set of directives for Storage as there are for Pools. If people don't mind waiting, I can add them myself; after I've finished work on some code that's apparently due next week but I still haven't been given all the information I need to write it/rant. As of now, I decided to go the manual way: I create volumes manually (I don't use file storage) and, when a job level is automatically elevated, For a couple of the jobs I run I'm doing incrementals every hour and differentials every day (backing up development trees); it makes more sense to use disk storage. They're really not live long enough for me to worry about writing them to tape. I usually notice the stuck backup job in reasonable time and manually cancel that job and re-run the job with the necessary settings by hand. I normally notice in the morning because it's stuck on the one it upgraded...clearing it seems to be a right royal pain in the proverbial as well. Arno -- Chris Crowther Developer JM Crowther Ltd. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
There are little GB of mpeg If I try to set compression off and backup 3 directory (all 555MB, no multimedia files) I get : VolBytes: 488,242,591 The same backup with compression on is: VolBytes: 488,242,591 The result is equal!!! Why? Compression is on or off? Thanks... Quoting Martin Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:29:27 +0200, Andrea Soracchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I have a HP Dat Storage 72/36 (DDS 4) and I have installed Bacula 1.38.9 (02 May 2006). Bacula works very well, but I have a problem with compression hardware of my DAT. If I check compression of my DAT with the command mt -f /dev/nst0 datcompression (after a umount command from bconsole) I get: Compression on. I have a Backup of 38 GB (There are various type of files (doc,xls,mpeg...) ). When I run the Job for that backup, I must insert two tape!!! In the first Tape there's a 36GB, and remaining GB in the second tape. The compression seems not to work. How can I check if the compression is active and working during a job? Can you help me? How many GB of mpegs (or other multimedia files)? The hardware cannot compress these files (in fact DDS 4 hardware compression will probably make them larger). __Martin Andrea Soracchi Netbuilder S.r.l. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Expanding the Job database table entry + manual license
On Sunday 28 May 2006 12:18, Christoph Haas wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: 3. Currently the manual is licensed under a somewhat restrictive license that does not permit commercial reproduction of the manual without explicit authorization. This means that the manual does not mean the definition of Free Software. My idea in keeping the license commercially restricted was so that someone could possibly publish the manual (or use it as the basis of something to be published) and that a part of the revenues would revert to the project. However, I am now convinced that there is little chance that someone would want to publish the manual without working with us and that it is better to change the license to GPL version 2. There are, of course, all sorts of other open source licenses, but given that the source is GPL v2, this is the logical license for the manual as well. Comments? Thanks for reconsidering. This will allow the documentation to be shipped with Debian again. Thanks for the thanks. Since the my email that you reference, I have indeed changed the manual license, but to FDL (or GFDL as Debian calls it), which is the GNU Free Documentation License. I did so without invariants, or cover pages. I chose FDL over the GPL because FDL *seems* to me to be much simpler to interpret when dealing with documentation and specifically targetted to documentation. Fortunately, as of recently (March or April if I am not mistaken), the GFDL is also considered as a Free license by Debian in the way I used it :-) By the way, for Bacula users: I worked a lot recently (over the last month) on license issues for Bacula and for the Bacula documentation with the Debian legal guys and the Debian Bacula package maintainer, and I must say they were very patient with me considering all my questions and very helpful in finding solutions for the license issues :-) -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] replication/migration strategy for multiple bacula servers
On Thursday 08 June 2006 07:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, all! I've got 2 bacula servers, one of which is a primary box doing all the backing-up and the other is supposed to be an exact copy of the first one (it's located in a hot site facility far away). As a part of the disaster recovery plan, I would like to make sure that the second box always have a more or less (+/-30 min old) replica of the data on the first box so that I can cut over to it once the disaster strikes. What is the most proper way of doing this in Bacula world? Or should be I be using rsync and friends instead? For replicating data an rsync and friends solution is far more adapted to the problem than Bacula. Kern mentioned migration jobs in one of his previous responses to someone. Could that be the answer and if yes, is this feature already available? No, and no. Thank you in advance. Best Regards, Mark Gimelfarb. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrea Soracchi wrote: There are little GB of mpeg If I try to set compression off and backup 3 directory (all 555MB, no multimedia files) I get : VolBytes: 488,242,591 The same backup with compression on is: VolBytes: 488,242,591 The result is equal!!! Why? Compression is on or off? We're talking hardware compression here, right? In that case, the solution is simple, at least as far as I understand it (somebody correct me if I'm wrong): Bacula doesn't know. Your drive does the compression, Bacula only sends it the data uncompressed and that's why the values don't change (it sends the very same amount of data, regardless of whether your drive's hardware compression is on or off). Now, if you enabled software comprression, things would be different. In that case, Bacula would be doing the compression and would know the 'before' and 'after' sizes of the data. Greetings, Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 iD8DBQFEjWwV2Vs+MkscAyURApuBAKDV221JY+myRHzt+g8O+/HQg46lSgCgzCN6 Fu6XcOG7vLd6ZlzIPgf3oOo= =cpk4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
On Thursday 08 June 2006 10:08, Chris Crowther wrote: Hi All, I seem to have run across a problem when storing Full and Differential backups on tape and Incrementals on disk, when combined with re-running missed levels. If Bacula upgrades the job to either Full or Differential from an Incremental, because of a missed job, it tries to use the wrong storage device, ie it uses the File one that it would have been using for the Incremental job. It does change the Pool to the correct one, probably because I've told the Job which Pools are used for Full and Differential. On a normal scheduled backup, without any problems, the storage is overriden within the Schedule (multiple jobs use the tape library for their Full and Differentials, but there's several Pools, so I set which Pool a job should be using in the Job then just modify the storage in the schedule). Unfortunately Storage overrides in the Run directive do not work with Job upgrades, and probably for you more unfortunately, it is not something that I envision fixing. In fact, I will probably remove Storage overrides from the Run directive in some future version -- once 1.39.x is release since it provides a similar (and better feature) by having Storage definitions within the Pool resource. Is it the case that you can't combine the two; or if you do you have to put up with a Full backup going to where an Incremental would? -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] bacula-web port for FreeBSD
I seem to remember a post about a bacula-web port for FreeBSD not too long ago. Checking freshports, it doesn't look like it was ever committed. Is there a particular holdup? Anything I can do to help move it along? -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
On Monday 12 June 2006 14:29, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, On 6/8/2006 10:08 AM, Chris Crowther wrote: Hi All, I seem to have run across a problem when storing Full and Differential backups on tape and Incrementals on disk, when combined with re-running missed levels. Ah yes. I knew what you was aiming at at this point :-( If Bacula upgrades the job to either Full or Differential from an Incremental, because of a missed job, it tries to use the wrong storage device, ie it uses the File one that it would have been using for the Incremental job. It does change the Pool to the correct one, probably because I've told the Job which Pools are used for Full and Differential. On a normal scheduled backup, without any problems, the storage is overriden within the Schedule (multiple jobs use the tape library for their Full and Differentials, but there's several Pools, so I set which Pool a job should be using in the Job then just modify the storage in the schedule). Is it the case that you can't combine the two; or if you do you have to put up with a Full backup going to where an Incremental would? Yes and yes ;-) Depending on what you want. Admittedly, the best solution would be 'Full Backup Storage=', 'Differential Backup storage=' and 'Incremental Backup Storage=' directives in the job resource. I think Pool Storage directives are probably better because they slow down the proliferation of Bacula directives, and hopefully give the same thing in a better way without using Run overrides. :-) In the long term, I'd like to see the ability to change the job setup dynamically using python events. As of now, I decided to go the manual way: I create volumes manually (I don't use file storage) and, when a job level is automatically elevated, I usually notice the stuck backup job in reasonable time and manually cancel that job and re-run the job with the necessary settings by hand. I wouldn't do this at customer sites, though, where there's noone around who could handle that. Arno ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] force to run a job that is waiting for its start time
Hello, I have a job that had been rescheduled because at the time it ran, the client (a portable) wasnt connected to the network. Is there any way(manually on console) to force it to run now that the client is connected, instead of waiting for the rescheduled start time? Thanks, Jaime Ventura ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
--- Andrea Soracchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are little GB of mpeg If I try to set compression off and backup 3 directory (all 555MB, no multimedia files) I get : VolBytes: 488,242,591 The same backup with compression on is: VolBytes: 488,242,591 The result is equal!!! Why? Compression is on or off? They should be equal as mpeg files are already compressed and will not compress any furthur using a fast compression algorithm. John ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Manually run the Director with the -d1 option on the command line in a shell window, and if you are lucky, the Python error message associated with the problem will be printed in the shell. Otherwise, start with the example files unchanged and make sure that the script file has totally open permissions. That should get it working, afterwards you can make changes a bit at a time until you get what you want. Thanks, David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:16 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Friday 09 June 2006 21:21, Wilson, David wrote: Greetings, I am working with using the python functionality of bacula and I am running into a problem with the DirStartUp.py script. Whenever I startup bacula, or restart the python engine I receive the following error: 09-Jun 15:14 bkup1-roc-dir: ERROR in pythonlib.c:131 Could not import Python script /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp. Python disabled. When I attempt to run the script manually I receive: Traceback (most recent call last): File DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import sys, bacula, time ImportError: No module named bacula I did compile bacula with -with-python and I received no errors while installing in. Any ideas?? Please see the Python chapter of the development manual -- in particular the Python Configuration section. I have added several paragraphs that explain this problem. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:54 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Manually run the Director with the -d1 option on the command line in a shell window, and if you are lucky, the Python error message associated with the problem will be printed in the shell. Otherwise, start with the example files unchanged and make sure that the script file has totally open permissions. That should get it working, afterwards you can make changes a bit at a time until you get what you want. Thanks, David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:16 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Friday 09 June 2006 21:21, Wilson, David wrote: Greetings, I am working with using the python functionality of bacula and I am running into a problem with the DirStartUp.py script. Whenever I startup bacula, or restart the python engine I receive the following error: 09-Jun 15:14 bkup1-roc-dir: ERROR in pythonlib.c:131 Could not import Python script /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp. Python disabled. When I attempt to run the script manually I receive: Traceback (most recent call last): File DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import sys, bacula, time ImportError: No module named bacula I did compile bacula with -with-python and I received no errors while installing in. Any ideas?? Please see the Python chapter of the development manual -- in particular the Python Configuration section. I have added several paragraphs that explain this problem. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
On Monday 12 June 2006 16:08, Wilson, David wrote: I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. Oh, it is nice that it worked. I'll add that trick to the manual. Note, once you get the DirStartUp script to load, Bacula should be able to print all the Python errors, so this trick, in principle, should not be necessary if/when you have problems later. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? Yes, you can perfectly well use external modules, in fact the sys module that the script calls is external. The problem is that apparently, you have not loaded all parts of the Python time module. I suggest you try writing a small external Python script that you call that does what you want -- running it directly with Python, then once you get it working, integrate it with Bacula. Don't forget if you are running under root or some other user, Bacula may or may not have the right paths defined. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:54 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Manually run the Director with the -d1 option on the command line in a shell window, and if you are lucky, the Python error message associated with the problem will be printed in the shell. Otherwise, start with the example files unchanged and make sure that the script file has totally open permissions. That should get it working, afterwards you can make changes a bit at a time until you get what you want. Thanks, David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:16 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Friday 09 June 2006 21:21, Wilson, David wrote: Greetings, I am working with using the python functionality of bacula and I am running into a problem with the DirStartUp.py script. Whenever I startup bacula, or restart the python engine I receive the following error: 09-Jun 15:14 bkup1-roc-dir: ERROR in pythonlib.c:131 Could not import Python script /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp. Python disabled. When I attempt to run the script manually I receive: Traceback (most recent call last): File DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import sys, bacula, time ImportError: No module named bacula I did compile bacula with -with-python and I received no errors while installing in. Any ideas?? Please see the Python chapter of the development manual -- in particular the Python Configuration section. I have added several paragraphs that explain this problem. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Tape not loaded (using 1.36.2)
Greetings, in case of a power outage, after a while the bacula server is turned off by the UPS after an orderly shutdown. One consequence of this is that the LTO tape is ejected. When the server is restarted, however, the tape is not loaded when bacula starts, although I have AutomaticMount = yes and AlwaysOpen = yes in bacula-sd.conf. What am I missing ? Thank you for your consideration, Davide Bolcioni -- There is no place like /home. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
The script that I am trying to use works fine running as root, and with the import time command I am using within the DirStartUp.py. I only run into this problem when bacula attempts to import this script. Bacula is running as root (at this time) so it should have all the rights I used when writing the original script I used for development. I think I received an email from another user stating that they experienced the problem before as well and it had something to do with dyn-load modules. Do you have any other ideas?? David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 16:08, Wilson, David wrote: I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. Oh, it is nice that it worked. I'll add that trick to the manual. Note, once you get the DirStartUp script to load, Bacula should be able to print all the Python errors, so this trick, in principle, should not be necessary if/when you have problems later. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? Yes, you can perfectly well use external modules, in fact the sys module that the script calls is external. The problem is that apparently, you have not loaded all parts of the Python time module. I suggest you try writing a small external Python script that you call that does what you want -- running it directly with Python, then once you get it working, integrate it with Bacula. Don't forget if you are running under root or some other user, Bacula may or may not have the right paths defined. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:54 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Manually run the Director with the -d1 option on the command line in a shell window, and if you are lucky, the Python error message associated with the problem will be printed in the shell. Otherwise, start with the example files unchanged and make sure that the script file has totally open permissions. That should get it working, afterwards you can make changes a bit at a time until you get what you want. Thanks, David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:16 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Friday 09 June 2006 21:21, Wilson, David wrote: Greetings, I am working with using the python functionality of bacula and I am running into a problem with the DirStartUp.py script. Whenever I startup bacula, or restart the python engine I receive the following error: 09-Jun 15:14 bkup1-roc-dir: ERROR in pythonlib.c:131 Could not import Python script /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp. Python disabled. When I attempt to run the script manually I receive: Traceback (most recent call last): File DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import sys, bacula, time ImportError: No module named bacula I did compile bacula with -with-python and I received no errors while installing in. Any ideas?? Please see the Python chapter of the development manual -- in particular the Python Configuration section. I have added several paragraphs that explain this problem. http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Python_Scripting.html David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -- Best regards,
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
Hey David, I've seen your emails about the lib-dynload matter. I think it is you who I sent my answer last week. Do you still have it? Any questions? The principle of my workaround is this: Take your development script and let it create the values you need for bacula. Then just let the DirStartUp.py call (not import!!!) this script and take the resulting values in for further processing. So you will have two scripts: One that does all the stuff where the shared modules from lib-dynload are needed, and... The DirStartUp.py , which just receives the values (that it can't create itself) from the above script. Mit freundlichem Gruß i. A. Christoff Buch = [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49.941.78004.607 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OneVision Software AG Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 9 D - 93049 Regensburg Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.06.2006 19:30 To Wilson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 19:03, Wilson, David wrote: The script that I am trying to use works fine running as root, and with the import time command I am using within the DirStartUp.py. I only run into this problem when bacula attempts to import this script. Bacula is running as root (at this time) so it should have all the rights I used when writing the original script I used for development. I think I received an email from another user stating that they experienced the problem before as well and it had something to do with dyn-load modules. Do you have any other ideas?? I am not a Python expert, so I cannot be of much help. You might take a look on the Python site or ask on their mailing list. I see the same problem here, and after looking at the error message a bit more carefully, I do see that it is a problem with dynamically loaded modules because it is apparently expecting the Python interpreter to be loaded in the normal fashing. The problem is that it is not finding PyInt_FromLong, which is part of the Python interpreter, and the symbol is probably lost when Bacula is linked. Your best bet is either to turn off dynamic modules, if that is possible, or ask on the Python email list how to get around this. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 16:08, Wilson, David wrote: I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. Oh, it is nice that it worked. I'll add that trick to the manual. Note, once you get the DirStartUp script to load, Bacula should be able to print all the Python errors, so this trick, in principle, should not be necessary if/when you have problems later. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? Yes, you can perfectly well use external modules, in fact the sys module that the script calls is external. The problem is that apparently, you have not loaded all parts of the Python time module. I suggest you try writing a small external Python script that you call that does what you want -- running it directly with Python, then once you get it working, integrate it with Bacula. Don't forget if you are running under root or some other user, Bacula may or may not have the right paths defined. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:54 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc file. 2. Any functions I do not want have been removed, or the noop=1 has been placed within the event. Is there any way to get more detail other than the error messages I am seeing? Seeing I cannot run the file from the command line to see if it is syntax problem, it would be nice to find out why bacula cannot use the file. Manually run the Director with the -d1 option on the command line in a shell window, and if you
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
On Monday 12 June 2006 20:23, Christoff Buch wrote: Hey David, I've seen your emails about the lib-dynload matter. I think it is you who I sent my answer last week. Do you still have it? Any questions? The principle of my workaround is this: Take your development script and let it create the values you need for bacula. Then just let the DirStartUp.py call (not import!!!) this script and take the resulting values in for further processing. So you will have two scripts: One that does all the stuff where the shared modules from lib-dynload are needed, and... The DirStartUp.py , which just receives the values (that it can't create itself) from the above script. Nice solution. I'll add it to the manual. Thanks :-) Hmm. I'm wondering if there isn't some way to make Bacula use libpython2.x.so the same way that the python executable does rather than having the interpreter linked in. That would probably resolve the problem and reduce Bacula's footprint too. Mit freundlichem Gruß i. A. Christoff Buch = [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49.941.78004.607 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OneVision Software AG Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 9 D - 93049 Regensburg Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.06.2006 19:30 To Wilson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 19:03, Wilson, David wrote: The script that I am trying to use works fine running as root, and with the import time command I am using within the DirStartUp.py. I only run into this problem when bacula attempts to import this script. Bacula is running as root (at this time) so it should have all the rights I used when writing the original script I used for development. I think I received an email from another user stating that they experienced the problem before as well and it had something to do with dyn-load modules. Do you have any other ideas?? I am not a Python expert, so I cannot be of much help. You might take a look on the Python site or ask on their mailing list. I see the same problem here, and after looking at the error message a bit more carefully, I do see that it is a problem with dynamically loaded modules because it is apparently expecting the Python interpreter to be loaded in the normal fashing. The problem is that it is not finding PyInt_FromLong, which is part of the Python interpreter, and the symbol is probably lost when Bacula is linked. Your best bet is either to turn off dynamic modules, if that is possible, or ask on the Python email list how to get around this. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 16:08, Wilson, David wrote: I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. Oh, it is nice that it worked. I'll add that trick to the manual. Note, once you get the DirStartUp script to load, Bacula should be able to print all the Python errors, so this trick, in principle, should not be necessary if/when you have problems later. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? Yes, you can perfectly well use external modules, in fact the sys module that the script calls is external. The problem is that apparently, you have not loaded all parts of the Python time module. I suggest you try writing a small external Python script that you call that does what you want -- running it directly with Python, then once you get it working, integrate it with Bacula. Don't forget if you are running under root or some other user, Bacula may or may not have the right paths defined. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 9:54 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 14:15, Wilson, David wrote: I just finished reading through the dev manual and I checked to make sure that the following is true: 1. The director can write to the directory, and is creating a DirStartUp.pyc
Re: [Bacula-users] Problem with compression
Hello, On 6/12/2006 3:28 PM, Michel Meyers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrea Soracchi wrote: There are little GB of mpeg If I try to set compression off and backup 3 directory (all 555MB, no multimedia files) I get : VolBytes: 488,242,591 The same backup with compression on is: VolBytes: 488,242,591 The result is equal!!! Why? Compression is on or off? We're talking hardware compression here, right? In that case, the solution is simple, at least as far as I understand it (somebody correct me if I'm wrong): That doesn't seem necessary as far as I know... Bacula doesn't know. Your drive does the compression, Bacula only sends it the data uncompressed and that's why the values don't change (it sends the very same amount of data, regardless of whether your drive's hardware compression is on or off). Now, if you enabled software comprression, things would be different. In that case, Bacula would be doing the compression and would know the 'before' and 'after' sizes of the data. There is only one reliable way to find out if hardware compression is working if you don't trust the drives information, as can be determined with mt or tapeinfo: Try it. Load a tape, set compression to what you want - usually only on or off - and start filling the tape. Count how much data is written to tape. I typically do something like this: while dd if=/tmp/testdata bs=1M of=/dev/nstX ; do echo -en ; done mt -f /dev/nstX tell with testdata being a file with preloaded data, either well compressible (usually just some text file I've got lying around) or a dump of /dev/urandom of the necessary size. It's a good thing to make sure your test data is a multipple of the block size you use on that tape. Arno Greetings, Michel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 iD8DBQFEjWwV2Vs+MkscAyURApuBAKDV221JY+myRHzt+g8O+/HQg46lSgCgzCN6 Fu6XcOG7vLd6ZlzIPgf3oOo= =cpk4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
Hello, On 6/12/2006 3:34 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 14:29, Arno Lehmann wrote: On 6/8/2006 10:08 AM, Chris Crowther wrote: ... Admittedly, the best solution would be 'Full Backup Storage=', 'Differential Backup storage=' and 'Incremental Backup Storage=' directives in the job resource. I think Pool Storage directives are probably better because they slow down the proliferation of Bacula directives, and hopefully give the same thing in a better way without using Run overrides. :-) Probably... they take away some of the flexibility I use (distributing pools over more than one media type and thus storage device), but they make management simpler. My personal preference would be the proliferation of directives... but then, I do get paid by people who don't want to work through the configuration themselves ;-) Apart from that, trying to simplify the configuration seems a good goal to me, and linking pools with storage devices is even kind of logical. Anyway, having the necessary python hooks for all this sort of stuff would be really nice... Arno -- IT-Service Lehmann[EMAIL PROTECTED] Arno Lehmann http://www.its-lehmann.de ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question
I figure having the ability to use lib-dynload modules would be something bacula would want, especially with the move towards python for managing event customization. I will place that fix in place, but it would be great to be able to access the modules directly in the DirStartUp.py file. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 3:21 PM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Christoff Buch; Wilson, David Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 20:23, Christoff Buch wrote: Hey David, I've seen your emails about the lib-dynload matter. I think it is you who I sent my answer last week. Do you still have it? Any questions? The principle of my workaround is this: Take your development script and let it create the values you need for bacula. Then just let the DirStartUp.py call (not import!!!) this script and take the resulting values in for further processing. So you will have two scripts: One that does all the stuff where the shared modules from lib-dynload are needed, and... The DirStartUp.py , which just receives the values (that it can't create itself) from the above script. Nice solution. I'll add it to the manual. Thanks :-) Hmm. I'm wondering if there isn't some way to make Bacula use libpython2.x.so the same way that the python executable does rather than having the interpreter linked in. That would probably resolve the problem and reduce Bacula's footprint too. Mit freundlichem Gruß i. A. Christoff Buch = [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49.941.78004.607 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OneVision Software AG Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 9 D - 93049 Regensburg Kern Sibbald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.06.2006 19:30 To Wilson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 19:03, Wilson, David wrote: The script that I am trying to use works fine running as root, and with the import time command I am using within the DirStartUp.py. I only run into this problem when bacula attempts to import this script. Bacula is running as root (at this time) so it should have all the rights I used when writing the original script I used for development. I think I received an email from another user stating that they experienced the problem before as well and it had something to do with dyn-load modules. Do you have any other ideas?? I am not a Python expert, so I cannot be of much help. You might take a look on the Python site or ask on their mailing list. I see the same problem here, and after looking at the error message a bit more carefully, I do see that it is a problem with dynamically loaded modules because it is apparently expecting the Python interpreter to be loaded in the normal fashing. The problem is that it is not finding PyInt_FromLong, which is part of the Python interpreter, and the symbol is probably lost when Bacula is linked. Your best bet is either to turn off dynamic modules, if that is possible, or ask on the Python email list how to get around this. David Wilson Network Security Engineer PAETEC Communications, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern Sibbald Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:22 AM To: Wilson, David Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Python Question On Monday 12 June 2006 16:08, Wilson, David wrote: I ran the director in a shell and this was the output I received. bacula-dir: dird.c:128 Debug level = 1 Traceback (most recent call last): File /etc/bacula/scripts/DirStartUp.py, line 6, in ? import time, sys, bacula ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/timemodule.so: undefined symbol: PyInt_FromLong bkup1-roc-dir: pythonlib.c:134 Python Import error. Oh, it is nice that it worked. I'll add that trick to the manual. Note, once you get the DirStartUp script to load, Bacula should be able to print all the Python errors, so this trick, in principle, should not be necessary if/when you have problems later. It looks to be due to the fact I want to import the time module into the script. Is there any reason why I shouldn't be able to use external modules?? Yes, you can perfectly well use external modules, in fact the sys module that the script calls is external. The problem is that apparently, you have not loaded all parts of the Python time module. I suggest you try writing a small external Python script that you call that does what you want -- running it directly with Python, then once you get it working, integrate it with Bacula. Don't forget if you are running under root or some other user, Bacula may or may not have
Re: [Bacula-users] Re-Run Missed Levels with split storage...
On Monday 12 June 2006 21:50, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hello, On 6/12/2006 3:34 PM, Kern Sibbald wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 14:29, Arno Lehmann wrote: On 6/8/2006 10:08 AM, Chris Crowther wrote: ... Admittedly, the best solution would be 'Full Backup Storage=', 'Differential Backup storage=' and 'Incremental Backup Storage=' directives in the job resource. I think Pool Storage directives are probably better because they slow down the proliferation of Bacula directives, and hopefully give the same thing in a better way without using Run overrides. :-) Probably... they take away some of the flexibility I use (distributing pools over more than one media type and thus storage device), but they make management simpler. My personal preference would be the proliferation of directives... but then, I do get paid by people who don't want to work through the configuration themselves ;-) Yea, but you seem to be able to stock a lot more things in your head than I can, so that is why I am tending toward non-proliferation :-) Apart from that, trying to simplify the configuration seems a good goal to me, and linking pools with storage devices is even kind of logical. Anyway, having the necessary python hooks for all this sort of stuff would be really nice... Yes, I agree, and the hooks will eventually get implemented (I recently slipped in a few more variables in a 1.38.x release), but for the moment, the user interest in Python is almost non-existant. So until I start hearing more complaints about adding more Python features, it is not very high on my priority list. I'm not worried about it though. In the early years of Bacula I heard a lot of complaints about using SQL as the database, and look what users are doing with it now (bacula-web, recover.pl, and brestore.pl) !!! :-) With a few more small hooks into Python, Eric and Marc could hook their Perl GUI interface directly into Bacula via a Python call to Perl --- hmmm. While I am wildly speculating, I should say that it seems to me that adding a Python interpreter to bconsole could allow some really neat scripting of Bacula commands -- even building new intelligent commands that are in fact Python scripts. -- Best regards, Kern ( /\ V_V ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Space used in volume?
Georger Araujo writes: 2) Run bconsole and type list media For purged volumes it shows the full size of the volume. Will those files get shrinked when they get recycled and start from 0? I have the volumes set to be no larger than 1GB for performance reasons. Also volumes in 'append' mode show 1 in the volbytes column. What does that mean? ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Removing old clients from the database
Martin Simmons writes: You can use the query command option List all backups for a Client to find the jobids for jobs on the old clients and the use the delete job command to remove the information for each one. Can also use the 'prune' command or the purge command. In particular the 'purge' command will delete the records regardless of their retention.. Just make absolutely sure you are purging the old clients. ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
