Re: Ablutions

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Susan Maneck wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> What is the difference between being in a state where one is legally >> required to perform ablutions and being ritually impure? > > Dear Gilberto, > > Baha'is perform ablutions befor

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > What is the difference between being in a state where one is legally > required to perform ablutions and being ritually impure? Dear Gilberto, Baha'is perform ablutions before saying their obligatory prayers even if they have just had a bath, but the more thorough go

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv What is the difference between being in a state where one is legally required to perform ablutions and being ritually impure? On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Susan Maneck wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > No, primarily because we don't have ritual impurity in the

Re: Pious Fasting

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > How much Baha'i writing is their on pious additional fasting above and > beyond the month of Loftiness? > 71. QUESTION: Should a person wish to fast at a time  128 other than in the month of Ala', is this permissible or not; and if he hath vowed or pledged himself to

Re: Ablutions

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv No, primarily because we don't have ritual impurity in the Baha'i Faith. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Stephen Gray wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > I know we have ablution in the Baha'i Faith, but ours is a type of wudu. Is > there any mention of ghusl in B

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Saying bismillah at the time of eating doesn't substitute for not saying it at the time of slaughter. There is a hadith which describes a situation where the companions expressed doubt about some food which was prepared by Muslims and Muhammad (saaws) said "say bismillah

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I wasn't responding to what you wrote at all here, I was just responding to Stephen's question. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Susan Maneck wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "originate" but saying >> "Bismillah ar-Rahman ar

Pious Fasting

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv How much Baha'i writing is their on pious additional fasting above and beyond the month of Loftiness? Jew and Muslims considers Mondays and Thursdays to be fast days. Christians consider Wednesdays and Fridays to be fast days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

Ablutions

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I know we have ablution in the Baha'i Faith, but ours is a type of wudu. Is there any mention of ghusl in Baha'i writings? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: s

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "originate" but saying > "Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim" is a fairly general invocation which is > suitable for beginning most endeavours. (starting a trip, getting up > in the morning, beginning a meal, putting on clothes, reading

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > The problem is, the problem so complex, it's difficult to even > formulate the question(s). We have different editorial practices : > the editor of Unfolding Destiny includes only letters with a > postscript or signature by Shoghi Effendi or internal evidence that > th

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'm not sure what you mean exactly by "originate" but saying "Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim" is a fairly general invocation which is suitable for beginning most endeavours. (starting a trip, getting up in the morning, beginning a meal, putting on clothes, reading the Qura

Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 17 Jun 2010 at 11:03, Stephen Gray wrote: > Where does the practice originate from? It's Jewish, if not earlier. Reciting kiddush is regarded as a command where wine is drunk (sabbath and holy days). In the Passover seder we find: Blessed are you, O Lord God, Ki

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Where does the practice originate from? I think it originates from the practice of pronouncing the bismillah as part of the ritual slaughter of animals for food which makes them halal. If a Muslim is not sure that the meat served is halal, he can make it so by pronoun

Re: {Spam?} Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > My success in asking questions at the Bahai World Centre has not been > so good lately. Maybe I annoy them with too many hard questions! It would probably be more useful if a Baha'i asked these questions. __ You are sub

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Where does the practice originate from? The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Muslim examples: > > The Opening Invocation > > Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim > In the name of Allah, the infinitely Compassionate and Merciful Most Muslims just say the above, Stephen. __

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I am not sure if there is a definitive Baha'i answer per se regarding Islamic > hadith. If there is, I am not aware of it. Perhaps Susan or Khazeh might know. I was asked this question on my bahai-islam website and said the same thing, only I took more time to say it

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Susan Maneck
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Muslim examples: > > The Opening Invocation > > Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim > In the name of Allah, the infinitely Compassionate and Merciful Most Muslims just say the above, Stephen. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i St

Re: {Spam?} Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Sen I found this custom of grace before meals very sweet and healthy. > When I read sometime ago that we cannot do it (Lights of Guidance), I > feel a little rude. I also find it healthy, and in accordance with Baha'u'llah's vision - and especially the Bab's vision

Rv: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work?

2010-06-17 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Resending, comments? - Mensaje reenviado De: Hasan Elías Para: Baha'i Studies Enviado: mar, junio 15, 2010 11:25:16 PM Asunto: possibilites of remembering Shoghi Effendi's birth or passing or some date related to his work? The Baha'i Studies Listserv Po

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Hasan Elías
The Baha'i Studies Listserv   Hi all,   Sen I found this custom of grace before meals very sweet and healthy. When I read sometime ago that we cannot do it (Lights of Guidance), I feel a little rude. I always ask myself: why not? But we have to investigate the truth; so, it is not a matter of h

Re: CS Lewis

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'm not familiar with the series myself, but what you described sounds alot like Gnosticism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism It's a little known philosophy-religion-worldview but its impact on the West and Japan have influnced their cultures hugely. http://en.

Re: CS Lewis

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes. That's an important piece. But I think there is more to the novels than just that. In the later novels, the Authority (presumably "God") and his forces led by the angel Metatron are the primary enemies. And at one point one of the "good guys" is explicitly described

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Muslim examples: The Opening Invocation Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim In the name of Allah, the infinitely Compassionate and Merciful   Bismillahi wa 'ala barakati-'llahi In the name of Allah and with blessings from Allah Allahumma barik la'na fi thamari'na wa barik l

Re: Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Stephen Gray
The Baha'i Studies Listserv http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_(prayer) Here is the Wikipedia article. Muslim examples: The Opening Invocation Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim In the name of Allah, the infinitely Compassionate and Merciful   Bismillahi wa 'ala barakati-'llahi In the name of Allah a

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-17 Thread iskandar.hai
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Oh, sorry I misunderstood you, dear Gilberto. I am not sure if there is a definitive Baha'i answer per se regarding Islamic hadith. If there is, I am not aware of it. Perhaps Susan or Khazeh might know. In the Baha'i Faith, however, there is no such thing as hadi

Re: CS Lewis

2010-06-17 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 17 Jun 2010 at 8:41, Gilberto Simpson wrote: > I'm curious about how you dealt with the "controversial" aspects. Was > the book anti-religious? anti-God? Not at all, Pullman speaks of an imagined world in which spiritual aspects of a person are visible in a "famili

Re: CS Lewis

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I'm curious about how you dealt with the "controversial" aspects. Was the book anti-religious? anti-God? Would you say that the book was anti-"bad religion" but our faith isn't like that? On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Sen & Sonja wrote: > Gilberto: - we also read t

Re: The only quality God doesn't has?

2010-06-17 Thread Gilberto Simpson
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Thanks. I don't know if this was clear but what I was looking for was a Bahai answer. Hasan had said he would only accept what Muhammad and the 12 imams said. So I'm wondering how a Bahai would go about determining that. I'm not sure if they would necessarily go to the S

Grace at Meals

2010-06-17 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 16 Jun 2010 at 15:59, Hasan Elías wrote: > Sen, did you try to clarify this issue asking the House? I haven't asked them about the letter against teaching grace to our children, but I have asked them some questions about the letters written on behalf of the Guardi

Re: CS Lewis

2010-06-17 Thread Sen & Sonja
The Baha'i Studies Listserv On 16 Jun 2010 at 19:13, Dean Betts wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Why would I want to victimize myself or my children or grandchildren? It's not meant literally Dean. More or less it means -- I predict when you start reading, it will become a great enthusiasm