[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-16 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Ed, I was only talking about KF strings. I imagine it would be impossible with any kind of gut string, and of course there is no evidence for it in paintings. I guess (and it is only a guess) that the original gut strings would have been quite flexible (and thin) and there would be no

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
Has anyone done a survey of paintings and noticed any indications of thinning the strings at the bridge or nut? > Thinning the string probably does weaken it, but since the strings in > question are way below their breaking strain that would never be a > problem. Ed Durbrow Saitama,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing (corrected)

2017-02-08 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Hello to anyone I have made this video showing the last version of ther CD basses. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKrNCEOfPVM there is a brief text in the video explaining the difference than the first CD's types. In the video I am a bit tired after this very stresses

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing (corrected)

2017-02-08 Thread Anthony Hind
o one answer to this question, and probably you would have to take into consideration your business strategy. > >> Best > >> Ciao > >> > >> Jaroslaw > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> ciao

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Not the best audio, but they do seem more gut-like to me. Rob On 7 February 2017 at 20:28, Mimmo Peruffo <[1]mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: Here is: the not red bass string that is the 11 course is those made with more stiffer elastomer. the turns on the peg where

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-07 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Here is: the not red bass string that is the 11 course is those made with more stiffer elastomer. the turns on the peg where just half. th sound has less sustain and it is powerfull and darker. I am very happy with it. The 5 course: the string of that course I am playing is made with a

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
That sounds encouraging! Rob On 7 Feb 2017 14:27, "Mimmo Peruffo" <[1]mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote: well guys, I think to have good news. I am doing, right now, the first few strings using a stiffer elasthomer and the same quantity of copper powder. I must admit

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-07 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
well guys, I think to have good news. I am doing, right now, the first few strings using a stiffer elasthomer and the same quantity of copper powder. I must admit that the process is even easy than before. The strings are absolutely no false and pretty even. The sound: darker and with less

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-04 Thread Jarosław Lipski
answer to your question will depend on whom > >> you’ll ask. > >> All in all there is no one answer to this question, and probably you would > >> have to take into consideration your business strategy. > >> Best > >> Ciao > >> > >> J

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Jarosław Lipski
gt; >> Jaroslaw >> >> >> >> >>> ciao to all >>> Mimmo >>> >>> -Messaggio originale- From: Martin Shepherd >>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 10:22 AM >>> To: Mimmo Peruffo ; Matthew Daillie >

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martin Shepherd
, 2017 10:22 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; Matthew Daillie Cc: Arto Wikla ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Thanks, Mimmo. I agree absolutely that there is no need to make versions of these strings thinner than .80mm. The issue of damping is perhaps the one

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
of the day it solve also a lot of meccanical problems Mille grazie Mimmo (thanks Anthony) -Messaggio originale- From: Jarosław Lipski Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 11:39 AM To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Mimmo, You experience

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Now, the question is what is your goal in making CD strings. If you aim at > finding a substitute for gut strings than stiffer strings would be better. I am > used to gut basses so I like short sustain and a little bit stiffer string. If > someone played only overwounds he/she would probably

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Jarosław Lipski
and then the rest are done exactly in the same >> way. >> well, I am leaving italy to London so I have not time to re start; I will do >> some samples both for meanes and basses just to see if they actually works >> in the proper way >> Be patient again; i can

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
Shepherd Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 10:22 AM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; Matthew Daillie Cc: Arto Wikla ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Thanks, Mimmo. I agree absolutely that there is no need to make versions of these strings thinner than .80mm. The issue

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martin Shepherd
o originale- From: Arto Wikla Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear Mimmo, if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I hope (and wish and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
From: Arto Wikla Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear Mimmo, if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you ke

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martin Shepherd
to Wikla Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear Mimmo, if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you keep a

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Matthew Daillie
t; ah ah > (my poor english at work) > Ciao > Mimmo > > ps > which are your suggestion guys? > > > > -Messaggio originale- > From: Arto Wikla > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM > To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmout

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
__ From: Mimmo Peruffo <mperu...@aquilacorde.com> To: Arto Wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 3 February 2017, 7:29 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Thank you for the suggestion Arto. Unf

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Rob MacKillop
ggestion guys? > > > > -Messaggio originale- > From: Arto Wikla > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM > To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing > > Dear Mimmo, > >

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
poor english at work) Ciao Mimmo ps which are your suggestion guys? -Messaggio originale- From: Arto Wikla Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:46 PM To: Mimmo Peruffo ; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear Mimmo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Mimmo, if you decide to make the loaded nylgut strings (CD) less elastic, I hope (and wish and urge ;-) ) that you keep also the original elastic version in your repertoire! They work exceptionally well on my Harz arclute, great stuff. And big thanks for your invaluable work! Arto On

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
rsday, 2 February 2017, 12:39 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Thanks Martyn, I mean more predominant fundamental and less sustain, more percussive . Bacon is interesting here, By the way, I am leaving Italy to,London royal,college .,there is a meeting about mandolin

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Mimmo
fr>; Martin Shepherd > <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> > Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017, 10:01 > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing > Mimmo again; > the Gualtier tbel hs a diffrent interpretation that those relate

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Jarosław Lipski
, 2017 11:08 AM > To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing > > No problem at all, they could be darker (even better!). Anyway it’s quite a > good idea IMHO. If some like overwounds they can always use just…ocerwounds;) > I really can’t se

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
: Jarosław Lipski Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:08 AM To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing No problem at all, they could be darker (even better!). Anyway it’s quite a good idea IMHO. If some like overwounds they can always use just…ocerwounds;) I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
eru...@aquilacorde.com> To: Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr>; Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017, 10:01 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Mimmo again; the Gualtier

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Jarosław Lipski
ig batch. I am a bit worry about those that like that they > are in some way still close to the wound strings > > > -Messaggio originale- From: Martin Shepherd > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:26 AM > To: Mimmo ; Matthew Daillie > Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
be done scaled. Ciao mimmo -Messaggio originale- From: Martin Shepherd Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:26 AM To: Mimmo ; Matthew Daillie Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear All, If we're really interested in how lutes might

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Mimmo Peruffo
- From: Martin Shepherd Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:26 AM To: Mimmo ; Matthew Daillie Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing Dear All, If we're really interested in how lutes might have been strung historically, I think it's important

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Dear Mimmo, Firstly I’d like to congratulate you for inventing a new type of bass strings, as those of us who would like to use plastic equivalent of gut had very little choice until now. Your CD strings sound nice with quite solid fundamental. The only problem that I found disturbing is their

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, If we're really interested in how lutes might have been strung historically, I think it's important to take the historical evidence (very little of it, I know) as a starting point, rather than the habits of modern players using modern strings. We have a lot of iconographic

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-02 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear Mimmo, Thank you for this information. I'm glad all the gauges of the new loaded nylgut strings will be available again soon. Your suggestion to compensate for the extra amplitude by using higher tension makes sense but will you be making gauges above 2.2 for the 13th course of a baroque

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-01 Thread Mimmo
Well, I can add a few informations There are no production problems it shelf. I had an extruder broken so I was obliged to wait the time to fix it. After that I finished the raw material. I received it a week ago. They has more amplitude in the vibration whose problem is mostly because one

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-01 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi My first impressions of the Aquila loaded nylgut strings are very good (archlute cc, G and F; 2x5th, 6th and 7th). My 1st check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7boXtpffL0=youtu.be And 3 recorded real pieces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV7q2jxMK3Q=youtu.be

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-01 Thread Matthew Daillie
Of the main copper-wound strings available, the fullest sounding and brightest are the Kürschner followed by the Savarez, then the Aquila Ds and lastly the Aquila DEs, which are pretty dull (and are no longer being made although several retailers still have quite large stocks available). As

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Stringing

2017-02-01 Thread Rob MacKillop
Hi David, I'm hugely impressed with the new Aquila Loaded Nylgut - see their website for details. After three days they settled quickly into tuning, and I rarely have to tweak them. Good sound too. Rob MacKillop > On 1 Feb 2017, at 21:25, David Rastall wrote: > > It