hi, this is my first mail to this list, and the first time i'll be
working with perl.
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well recommended.
would i be right in my assumption about the o'reilly books being good?
if not, are
Hi Mayuresh,
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56 +0530
Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
hi, this is my first mail to this list, and the first time i'll be
working with perl.
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 02:04:15PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
Hi Mayuresh,
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56 +0530
Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
hi, this is my first mail to this list, and the first time i'll be
working with perl.
i've been searching for books on learning and
Learning Perl, Schwartz, Phoenix, defoy, and others, (AKA The Llama Book)
is the best introductory book on Perl. The book is entertaining,
enlightening, and in it's sixth edition -- it's that good.
Perl will change how you look at Computer languages. There are two mottoes
in the Perl World:
How about python?
Many people consider it's better than Perl and it becomes more and more
popular.
On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Bob goolsby bob.gool...@gmail.com wrote:
Learning Perl, Schwartz, Phoenix, defoy, and others, (AKA The Llama Book)
is the best introductory book on Perl. The
I have watched Python programmers pull their hair out trying to bring the
performace upto acceptable limits and resource usage under control.
As soon as their programs increase in complexity, the problems with
Python start becoming evident.
So, thanks, but, no thanks, I'd rather go with Perl
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 07:28:09 -0400
htchd...@live.com wrote:
How about python?
Many people consider it's better than Perl and it becomes more and
more popular.
This is why:
$ python
Python 2.7.4 (default, Sep 26 2013, 03:20:26)
[GCC 4.7.3] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 04:47:47PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
btw, most people and web pages don't mention it, but, mastering
algorithms with perl is also supposedly a good book, though only a very
old edition is available.
It is, indeed, and excellent book. And it doesn't really matter if
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56 +0530
Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well recommended.
Another O'Reilly book is Perl Best Practice by Damian Conway. Much of
this book has been
I really enjoyed reading this book by Ovid.
http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9781118013847/
Felt it was much easier to understand then the Learning Perl 6th edition I
was reading before.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:12AM -0400, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56 +0530
Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well recommended.
Another O'Reilly book is
Hi. This is the _Perl_ beginners list.
Python advocacy is very much off-topic. If you'd like to stay and talk
about Perl programming, please do. If you'd like to advocate for
Python, please take that conversation some where else.
thanks,
john,
the perl-beginners list mom.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
A pseudo-tangential question;
Under the platform, I could do apt-get install perltidy to install
perltidy, but there's nothing similar for perlcritic.
Is perlcritic packaged under a different name? or is there a
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 14:13:51 -0700
John SJ Anderson geneh...@genehack.org wrote:
You should also know that, Shawn's endorsement not withstanding, many
people consider the advice given in Perl Best Practices to be a bit of
a mixed bag. There are some good tips in there, but they're mixed in
I'm a newbie of programming and want to know the differences between these 2
tools. I believe every newbie is curious to know the truth instead of some junk
posts online.
What's the big deal to compare these 2 languages? Simply because this is an old
topic?
On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:08 PM,
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:24:34 -0400
htchd...@live.com wrote:
What's the big deal to compare these 2 languages? Simply because this
is an old topic?
Because some of the early advocates for Python trash-talked Perl. And
Perlers, wanting to show that they can be equally immature,
trash-talked
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Shawn H Corey shawnhco...@gmail.com wrote:
There are many things in it, like Don't use the two-argument open,
which are relevant. part of the problem is that many of the older Perl
sources are out of date. PBP does tell what to use instead.
All of the Perl
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:24 PM, htchd...@live.com wrote:
I'm a newbie of programming and want to know the differences between these 2
tools. I believe every newbie is curious to know the truth instead of some
junk posts online.
What's the big deal to compare these 2 languages? Simply
On 10/26/13 03:36, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
hi, this is my first mail to this list, and the first time i'll be
working with perl.
Welcome! :-)
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well recommended.
would i be right in my
On 10/26/13 04:28, htchd...@live.com wrote:
How about python?
Many people consider it's better than Perl and it becomes more and more popular.
There are a lot of really smart people who like Python. There are a lot
of useful Python programs, and a lot of useful programs that incorporate
On 10/26/13 04:31, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
I have watched Python programmers pull their hair out trying to bring the
performace upto acceptable limits and resource usage under control.
As soon as their programs increase in complexity, the problems with
Python start becoming evident.
IMNSHO I've
On 10/26/13 14:08, John SJ Anderson wrote:
Python advocacy is very much off-topic.
On 10/26/13 14:24, htchd...@live.com wrote:
What's the big deal to compare these 2 languages?
On 10/26/13 14:35, Shawn H Corey wrote:
Because some of the early advocates for Python trash-talked Perl. And
I got past the white space sensitivity through determination (using vi) and
through sensible solutions (eventually using BB Edit on my mace which can '4
space tab equiv'). I use both but find perl fits my work well and so my second
language has become JS.
I support that this is not a language
Thanks for answering my question.
I'm certainly not an advocate for either languages, since I don't even know
much about them.
I learned Perl first and recently my colleagues suggested me to learn python.
So, the struggle begins.
I searched online about this topic and only found one
I would think the question being asked isn't 'OT' which is namely: what's
runtime v compile time ... (and Python's .pyc's are sort of in the middle). Id
think a beginners list first task would be to help you make the choice?
On 27 Oct 2013, at 00:15, htchd...@live.com wrote:
Thanks for
To answer your questions:
1, I don't know what's OT ? Can't say anything.
2, I asked a question to make decision by my own.
On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Ed Davis skoota...@btopenworld.com wrote:
I would think the question being asked isn't 'OT' which is namely: what's
runtime v compile
OT = off topic. Compile time (compiler languages) v Runtime (scripting
languages) ... Google it!;). Good luck!
On 27 Oct 2013, at 00:42, htchd...@live.com wrote:
To answer your questions:
1, I don't know what's OT ? Can't say anything.
2, I asked a question to make decision by my own.
Thank you and good weekend!
On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Ed Davis skoota...@btopenworld.com wrote:
OT = off topic. Compile time (compiler languages) v Runtime (scripting
languages) ... Google it!;). Good luck!
On 27 Oct 2013, at 00:42, htchd...@live.com wrote:
To answer your
On 10/26/13 16:25, Ed Davis wrote:
I would think the question being asked isn't 'OT' which is namely:
what's runtime v compile time ... (and Python's .pyc's are sort of in
the middle). Id think a beginners list first task would be to help you
make the choice?
There are a number of
On 10/26/13 16:42, htchd...@live.com wrote:
1, I don't know what's OT ?
The mail server offers the following description for this list:
http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html
A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a
friendly atmosphere.
So, if you're a
A very 'real world' point and that's true in my experiences. I favour perl and
it's my 'go to' but sometimes it's not the best solution. It IS a great 'in'
and enables people to go from non-coders to the sort of people who knock up
scripts in a few min to do stuff GUI users would take days to
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:09:59 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
The mail server offers the following description for this list:
http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html
A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a
friendly atmosphere.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 4:00 PM, David Christensen
dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
1. I'm interested in hearing opinions about other computer programming
languages and how they compare to Perl.
Not on topic for this list.
5. You get more flies with sugar than you do with salt. This list
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 02:13:51PM -0700, John SJ Anderson wrote:
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
A pseudo-tangential question;
Under the platform, I could do apt-get install perltidy to install
perltidy, but there's nothing similar for perlcritic.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:12AM -0400, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:56 +0530
Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote:
i've been searching for books on learning and mastering perl and found
the series by o'reilly to be quite well recommended.
Another O'Reilly book is
On 26/10/2013 13:59, Shawn H Corey wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 07:28:09 -0400
htchd...@live.com wrote:
How about python?
Many people consider it's better than Perl and it becomes more and
more popular.
This is why:
Why what? I assume you're promoting Python, which is a bit strange on
this
On 26/10/2013 23:55, David Christensen wrote:
On 10/26/13 04:28, htchd...@live.com wrote:
How about python? Many people consider it's better than Perl and
it becomes more and more popular.
There are a lot of really smart people who like Python.
Maybe, but it seems that you are not one of
someone wrote:
Thanks a lot ! I can see you are really exceptional among these Perl monks:)
Thank you for the complement, but I still have a lot to learn in a
number of areas. It's a multifaceted game, and we're all at different
stages. The people on the Perl Beginners list help me, so I
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It's really hard to interpret what you mean here, because ... you're
posting to one.
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