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Cathi,
I cannot believe someone would be so cold and cruel to you in this time of
tragedy for you and your canine family!
Bloat and cancer -- those of us who deeply love our Berners (as I know full
well you do) have to live in terror of these threats to our beloved dogs every
day. You deserve
In a message dated 8/10/2003 9:42:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have crate trained our other dogs and agree that crate training is a
wonderful thing but this little guy completely flipped when I tried to put
him in a crate with toys and treats. I really can't
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In a message dated 8/5/2003 12:58:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was taught a long time ago how to stop the all out run and tackle
berner bump. Simply to take my stand and put a knee up and let the pup try
to tackle it. It will knock the wind out of them
I am sorry that the entire list was brought into a personal discussion between me and
a certain European list member today.
In response to my post that a prong collar is one option for a dog who pulls on lead,
this person sent me a highly insulting and judgemental private email. She even
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We just couldnt leave this sweet dog in that filthy, overcrowded shelter yesterday!
After hearing word from WI that there was a Berner or Berner mix in an OH shelter and
seeing the pictures, my husband and I had to investigate in person.
There is controversy in our club's small rescue committe
Cindi,
The best resources I have found for Utility training are:
Books:
Steppin' Up to Success (3 bk series) - by Terri Arnold (see her website
www.terriarnpld.com
Competition Obedience: A Balancing Act - by Adele Yunck and Judy Byron
Beyond Basic Dog Training - by Diane Bauman (older book)
In a message dated 7/10/2003 1:04:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Are Berners not as sensitive to pack issues so Henley isn't getting the
message? Or am I just spoiling him too much by keeping my nose in
things? Is the Chessie entitled to continue drawing blood to
The very best point to emphasize when writing to protest the company's sale of dogs at
its stores (from breeders aka puppy millers) is to inform them you and your family
will no longer SHOP their stores or catalogue while this highly objectionable practice
continues. And you will encourage all
A recent post stated for novice dog owners, any training is better than none. I
really have to disagree.
Ineffective and/or abusive training absolutely CAN be worse than no training. Not only
does the novice owner feel hopeless when the dog still has behavior issues -- We took
him to an
Several years ago Petsmart did a very smart (hee-hee!) thing and affiliated itself w/
the Association of Pet Dog Trainers (www.apdt.com) Petsmart asked this excellent
organisation to design training classes for them. A fairly generous donation to the
APDT was recieved in return.
Since then
In a message dated 5/27/2003 12:52:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It will be a heat between the collar and the skin. Wounds like chafes in
the armpits, close to the dogs chest.
Margareta,
I have not seen (nor ever heard of) this happening w/ either the various no
In a message dated 4/2/2003 1:38:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An internist or board-certified small animal practioner can help you with
this. Is there a medical problem causing the kidneys to disfunction or are
they the originating problem.
Good advice. It also
In a message dated 3/31/2003 8:47:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
There were originally 5 Bernese listed on the auction site. Right before
the auction this number was changed to 10. There were actually 12 Bernese
auctioned. BARC rescued 11. 9 girls and 2 boys.
In a message dated 3/31/2003 12:37:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
which training method did you all go with? Which one really, really
worked?
Which methods do you use most often, when you get right down to it? What
type of training do your dogs best respond to?
How to keep your fragile belongings safe from Berner tails? Buy a glass
fronted curio cabinet and put the material things in it.
Or get a Pembroke Welsh Corgi -- they are short and have no tails. :-)
Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT
Ch. Brighteye
Brooke,
It is not bad behavior as you put it, it is simple prey drive. While
this may be undesirable, it is totally natural, normal behavior. If a dog has
this drive it is extremely difficult if not impossible to break him of his
habit. Your only realistic solution is to keep him away from
My Java lies down on the bed and awaits room service (me) to deliver...yup,
he sure eats lying down!
Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT
Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT
U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT
Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC
and now Brew/Bruin
Pat,
Dont know if the Alpenhorn would be interested in an article like this. It
was advice I gave someone in Montana who is soon taking in a rehomed adult
Berner and asked for advice what to do when he got there. Whatcha think?
Vilma
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Lisa-Jayne,
This is a working breed, your dog needs a job. (Other than the
excavating/landscaping job she has already assigned herself!) Many Berners
and other working breeds get bored and restless w/out a job to do. She really
needs to use her mind and her body, and if you dont help her find
I have had 3 primarily dog car SUV's, progressively larger each time. I
liked my Grand Cherokee and then the Ford Expedition just fine, but needed
something bigger w/ 4 wheel drive as I added dogsI totally love my
Suburban now. Am so sad it was in an accident 2 months ago (drunk driver in a
Maria,
Wow, my usual Frontline needs to add Longline! I hadnt heard about that.
Pat, now that your secret skill is out (besides your wonderful dog
photography) you will need to start traveling around the country offering
your services, so to speak. Tick removal expert, extraordinaire! I
When getting any product that makes medical claims, especially something new,
be sure to ask for solid evidence the product is actually safe and
effective, such as copies of the studies done. And well, my cousin Mary said
it worked great for Fluffy isnt real evidence. Anyone can make any
Check out Deb Jones, PhD's book Clicker Fun (Berner on cover!) at
http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
There are some great games in there. Also her book on teaching obedience
classes has some fun ideas.
Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX,
Joye,
Hee-hee! Yup, you are right, that wonderful Berner featured on the cover of
Deb Jones PhD's book is none other that my delightful Java -- playing w/ me.
Both Java and my young Bean are demo dogs in Deb's 3 clicker training
videos, which are/were available from the BMDCA if they have any
In a message dated 3/13/2003 12:12:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am in need of your help. 4 years ago I placed a puppy into a good home.
Something has happened in the past year, to this home, and the dog has
suffered.
He is affectionate and wants
I'm putting in 2 weekends of brags in for the price of one...can I do that,
Pat?
At the Potomac Valley specialty in Maryland this past weekend, my 4 yr old
Bean got a lovely 197 in Open B. Surprisingly, he didnt get High In Trial
this year -- b/c my 21 month old rescue dog Charm did!!
If anyone has any good information on inflamatory bowel disease in dogs,
could you please send it to my friend Deb Jones. Her dog was just diagnosed
and she is looking for information.
Please send it directly to Deb: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!!
Vilma Briggs (Kistner)
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD
In a message dated 3/5/2003 11:40:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you're not thinking of entering Rally, why not? :-) Would
anyone be interested in having a little Rally practice
get-together at the specialty?
I would be interested! Let's do it!
Vilma
In a message dated 2/24/2003 9:48:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does any one know of a good indoor training facility in the Annapolis area?
She need puppy kindergarten soon!
Check out the APDT (Assoc of Pet Dog Trainers) website for good positive
trainers in any
Pat,
Yes, I agree you should get one of these neat Berner night lights for every
room. I bought on from the 2003 specialty ways and means in Wheeling last
year and we use it every nightit looks great and we havent even needed to
replace the light bulb yet.
Also, I have the long sleeved
Sue,
Yep the gear bag from the 2003 Ways and Means is really great. I have seen
similar ones more expensive at LL Bean and places like that. It is very
strong and durable, gets tossed around a lot and is holding up great... and
has tons of pockets to help organise your training -- my life
nothing new here, but I like the way he says it. This is
from an interview with a writer named Jonathan Carroll:
RT: Speaking of Petals, why do dogs figure so prominently in your works,
particularly as figures of pathos? They seem to be bridge characters,
conduits for fabulism...
JC: ...the
We just built our house (what a pain!) and had a dog room put in w/
crates, grooming table, and elevated tub just for the dogs. It was much
cheaper to buy a seconds regualr human bathtub at Home Depot and just
have that put up on a secure platform and eclosed. The builder put in a few
steps
Rhona,
You ask an excellent question! Aggression is a VERY broad term, covering a
variety of undesireable behaviors w/ a variety of causes.
Preventing aggression from developing is much easier than treating it. You
never know for sure if your new dog (of any breed--but especially working,
I see that you do in deed lack dietary knowledge, Pat, tho you have a good
understanding of the basics. You listed the 4 basic food groups as:
Chocolate
McDonald's
Potato Chips
Chocolate
You scored a 50%,which is really pretty good, you are half there. Here is the
correct list, based on my
Liz,
Actually, the owner stays w/ the dog and takes him thru the 10 portions of
the CGC (Canine Good Citizen) test. The owner goes w/ the dog and can talk to
him thru all those steps of politely meeting new people and ignoring strange
dogs, doing a sit and then a recall and a brief stay,
Do you mean growth plates? :-)
This is the leading edge of bone growth and formation for length of bone in a
young dog/puppy, tho bone is constantly reformed and replaced thru life.
These are easily damaged by trauma until the long bones stop growing. Growth
plates close around the time of
Hi all. I just heard word of a 3 year old neutered male Berner being given to
Rescue. He is having what sounds like some fairly signifigant behavioral
problems, centered around aggression issues. Is there anyone out there
interested in helping me work w/ this dog?
The issue of aggression (an
Eileen,
Your post makes some very good points. Yes, we do need to watch very very
carefully the breeding and training choices we make. Yes, most dogs are in
rescue and in shelters b/c of behavioral problems of one sort or another,
they are supposedly there for a good reason. And no, not all
I have to agree w/ Rose on this one. This little puppy was being fed so much
junk food like cat food (by his well meaning and concerned owner) that it
is certainly no wonder he wasnt hungry for his healthy food. Like a child who
is allowed to fill up on Twinkies and potato chips all day is
In a message dated 1/30/2003 12:05:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
post Stevie's
medical billing are being taken care of. This might rise her soon to be
ex-husband's interest. What if you said that Karen has Stevie's medical
bills under control.
I noted that
I gotta runto work, so will reply in more detail soon, but the first thing
you need to do is order the book
Mine! A Guide to Rescource Guarding in Dogs by Jean Donaldson PhD.
It describes your dog to a T (and my foster-turned-permanant rescue Berner,
Charm) and has an excellent
Sherri raises a very interesting point, mentioing that being a heavy boned,
deep chested dog w/ a lot of substance seems to be a recessive trait, and
even dogs w/ these characteristics often produce many lighter boned dogs.
Regression to the mean is what this was called in genetics class. I bet
Trick ideas for that obedience class assignment:
Balance a large dry dog biscuit on his nose
Retrieve above biscuit (or even just hold and carry and release)
shark -- my Bean will flip his head back and snap up at the air
you sneeze and the dog runs and gets you a Kleenex (or hankie, which
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In a message dated 1/20/2003 8:20:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you don't have one of these calendars, it's a beauty and a keeper!
A...come on Pat, admit it. I have one of these neat calenders hanging by
my computer so I know your secret motivation. Just b/c
The Gentle Leader is a great tool, should be slowly introduced to the dog a
few seconds at a time. It can mess up the fur a little sometimes...the
nose loop should be loose enough to slide down to the back part of the nose
but the neck loop should be very snug and high up behind the ears.
In a message dated 1/9/2003 7:51:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I got a lot of negative reactions on the street- many
people thought it was a muzzle and therefore that this was a dangerous dog
and would not come anywhere near her- so this beat my purpose of
Cindy,
Try hard sterilized hollow bones and Kong toys. These are meant to be
stuffed to make them more interesting for the dogs. Stuff them full of
peanut butter, squeeze cheese, leftover fat from your dinner meat, even
bannana if your dog likes these. Then mix in some of his regular kibble
Mary-Ann,
Thank you so much for your excellent reply to the gentleman's post which
stated:
One of my wishes is that the focus of protecting would go to abused
children
as opposed to dogs.
I suppose he might then prefer to get involvoed in one of the numerous
community programs and
Actually, I have posted several times about this excellent humane training
and management tool, as have several others. Used properly and introduced
slowly, the Gentle Leader can be very helpful for many dogs, especially dogs
that tend to pull on the lead.
Check out the archives for the old
Other ideas to tempt her appetite:
Vanilla ice cream was one of the few things I have had sick dogs want to
eatthen if they eat that I can make milk shakes w/ some raw eggs blended
in for protien as the next step.
Or sprinkle parmesean cheese over the top of the water to increase fluid
n a message dated 1/6/2003 11:06:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I feel
that he needs the chance to run more than he can in our small yard and soon
he won't be able to go to the dog parks. I know with horses most muscle
building is done at a trot but what about
In a message dated 1/6/2003 12:51:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would love to hear from Berner owners with young children (under the age
of 3).
Welcome to the list! You will no doubt hear many opinions and the experience
of Berner owners.
Personally, I would
In a message dated 1/3/2003 8:44:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I should go to the COSTCO and buy the
human formulation of Cosequin DS. It was much cheaper and is identical in
formulation.
Maybe. Maybe not.
Generic over the counter products may or may not
In a message dated 12/31/2002 8:49:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So how did I do Vilma? Is this what you go through
every 3 weeks??:)
Rhona,
Yeah, that's pretty much it! I think you got it all down, including the most
essential ingredient, a sense of
In a message dated 12/31/2002 11:05:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
wire crates that are securely bungee corded down in your vehicle are still
best for the travel portion of your trip.
Good advice, thanks for reminding us. The guys at the oil change place always
ask
I would take him to see the vet and have it looked at and see what your vet
recommendsand if it doesnt go away in a few weeks, then definitely have
him/her biospy or aspirate it. My dogs have had lots of lumps and bumps
biopsied. Once I took Java in for a pimple. The vet popped his zit and
I love my Cabana crates! I have 4 of them I have accumulated over the years
and they are by far the best portable mesh style lightweight crate.
The size X-Large is very big indeed. I use it when I want to to put 2 dogs
in one crate. My Corgi very easily fits in w/ one Berner in there, along
Hygromas almost always will go away on their own. They are benign and rarely
bother the dog. You do NOT do surgery to place a drain or remove the cyst --
these have a high complication rate, risk of infection, etc.
My Bean had a hygroma (cystic hygroma) at about 9 mos, it resolved on its
Does anyone have a suggestion for the best high quality blow dryer to
purchase? My husband and I are buying this for each other as a belated
Christmas present. (Yes, it's true, our romantic Saturday evenings are
usually spent grooming dogshe washes, I dry!)
We have a 6 yr old pretty
Deb Jones PhD has a great video on teaching the retrieve in postive manner.
It is called Click and Fetch. No nasty ear pinches or any of that, she
uses all positive motivation, a method called shaping (using clicker
training) that is really very effective. And several beautiful Berners are
Shedding? You betcha! If you have a Berner, be prepared for a new condiment
in your food! Berners shed, it's just the way it is. Why do you think the
lists discussed the best vacuum cleaners on a regular basis? Hee-hee!
Personally I have not noticed a season variation even here in Ohio, but I
Eileen,
Hso your tricolor laundry thief has been discovered, the evidence
being a bra in your backyard? You neglected to let us know the condition of
the stolen object. When I find my underwear out in our yard, it is always my
husband's Golden Retriever who is to blame. Unfortunately,
In a message dated 12/20/2002 8:14:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Porter absolutely LOVES
his yard, but will not use it as a bathroom!
Try soaking an old towel w/ his own urine (blot it up, if you cant slip it
under him while he is peeing) and putting the towel
Berners have a 30% incidence of cancer. To properly evaluate what that
statement realoly means, one would need to know more info.
What is the cancer rate in other breeds to compare #'s?
What is the actual death rate from cancer in Berners? (Some cancers can be
successfully treated. My Java
I dunno, but I sure would be just a little hesitant to accept unquestioned
any medical advice quoted from a law firm especially one that admits it
makes big bucks suing over DES cases (or McDonalds hot coffee or whatever the
case of the week is.) Hconflict of interest, anyone? :-)
Mary,
How can I possibly NOT make fun of the Mc Donalds hot coffee lawsuit!? It is
a parody of itself! The lawyer may or may not be a nice guy, but if you are
stupid enough to put hot coffee in between your legs and drive off, too
badif you wanted it cold you should have ordered a Diet
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All Berners shed all the time. Bottom line!
Frequent bathing (every 3-4 weeks) and daily brushing w/ a wide tooth
rake/comb to get out the loose/dead undercoat are by far the best ways to
decrease shedding in a healthy dog w/ a healthy coat.
Vilma Briggs
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha Java Slurp,
Hee-hee! Sounds like your boy did indeed have a wet dream to medoubt if
that was urine dripping out, especially w/ the hunched over posture.
Bean was the first male I let stay intact for any extended period of time. He
used to get yellow crusty crud built up on the end of his penis ...
There is an 18 month old neutered male Berner in the NJ area who needs a new
home, he will eventually be needing permanant adoption -- but for now most
urgently needs at least an emergency foster.
He sounds like a fun loving wild child.energetic, digs in the yard,
described as
In a message dated 11/12/2002 12:26:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You mean you would sell a pup with blue eyes or red or with a white collar
for the same as a proper colored berner? This ain't even fair, giggle.
Why is it not fair? Just because the dog cannot be
Kathy,
Mast cell is a type of cancer that often responds well to treatment
(surgery/radiation), but I do know some dogs who have died from it,
especially the more advanced grades 2 and 3. Grade refers to how
aggressive the type of cancer cells are, as diagnosed by their appearance
under a
Dogs do not get revenge or target destructiveness to people they are
angry at. That is not in their capacity. Dogs simply do what they perceive
to be in their best interests. Dogs are not devious, deceitful, nor do they
plan to get back at you when they are angry. They can be confused as to
Try just keeping her away from the bed (close the bedroom door or babygate
the entrance) for a couple months if that is the only place in the house your
youngster urinates. Of course greatly rewarrd her when she goes in the
right place (outside) w/ enthusiastic praise and perhaps a tidbit.
Marion,
I understand completely your concerns about two males in the same household.
Would you sell a male Berner or Rottie to a home where the well socialised
resident male had been neutered young (and was already known to get along
well w/ other large males) if the new pup was also going to
Terry,
I would start all obedience training for all dogs, especially puppies, on a
regular buckle collar. Take him on that to your new class. If you start young
and train consistantly, especially thru his adolescance (now to 2 yrs) this
may well be the only collar your dog ever needs. Of
I have REWARD!! and a second ph # printed on the back of all my dogs'
tags. Dont have the dog's name, only mine and the street address and cell ph
#. They dont need to know his name, waste of space --- they need to bring him
back home to his Mommy!
Vilma Briggs
Mt. Gilead, OH
U-UD Mocha
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Tracey,
What is an attention class? Only the basis of all training (any species.)
Attention work is the foundation of ALL dog obedience training, particularly
for showing successfully in obedience trials. And it is something many less
informed and less experienced trainers and instructors
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