Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

been allocated. So to recap, we have no interest in or any need for remote next hops. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: Susan Hares [mailto:sha...@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 6:13 AM To: 'Ali Sajassi (sajassi)'; 'Russ White'; John E Drake; 'Rabadan

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ White Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:02 PM To: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments If the

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, Comments inline Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: Russ White [mailto:ru...@riw.us] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 7:12 PM To: John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments [JD] What RFC 7432

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Russ, I am under the impression that Adrian's email asked for comments on the proposed change to section 6.3. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ White Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 8:42 AM To: bess@ietf.org

Re: [bess] suggested AUTH48 changes on EVPN draft

Tony, The change you mention in your email below is editorial, clarifying what was already supported in the encodings but not explicitly described. The technical change is in the last paragraph and deals w/ VLAN Aware Bundle service w/ VID translation. Previously the ingress PE translated

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 12:25 AM To: 'Russ White'; John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments Russ and John: I have concerns about the issues Russ has raised as well as other concerns regarding the EVPN. As I mentioned at the last IETF's

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

Sue, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: Susan Hares [mailto:sha...@ndzh.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:28 AM To: John E Drake; 'Russ White'; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments John

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

, 2015 3:24 AM To: John E Drake; Russ White; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments Hi Russ, as someone who was involved early on in the EVPN, I can assure you that we had considered load-balancing as achieved via aliasing early on in the process. John

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

: Russ White [mailto:ru...@riw.us] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:17 AM To: 'Ali Sajassi (sajassi)'; John E Drake; 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)' Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments Wrt this draft, the text is very clear as it has been implemented by several major

Re: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments

, 2015 7:17 AM To: Ravi Shekhar; John E Drake Cc: 'Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)'; bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN Draft Comments The approach of A/B/C independently generating route to X only based on local MAC learning works even if physical link failure detection is not an option

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisement

Support Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:02 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-rabadan-l2vpn-evpn-prefix-advertisem...@tools.ietf.org Subject: [bess] Poll for

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

lead to transient _duplicates_. -Thomas 26/03/2015 20:05, John E Drake : Weiguo, I guess I wasn¹t clear. I think you draft, for the reasons I have detailed, is a non-solution to a non-problem with tremendous control plane cost. Yours Irrespectively, John *From

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

Weiguo, Snipped, comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:03 PM To: John E Drake; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based

Re: [bess] Handshaking among PEs in an EVPN ES based on Paxos algorithm

the EVPN routes are not time-stamped, you entire discussion of NTP and PTP is completely irrelevant. Yours Irrespectively, John From: John E Drake Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:00 PM To: 'Haoweiguo'; Patrice Brissette (pbrisset) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi); bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 AM To: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); saja...@cisco.com; John E Drake Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' Jorge, Understood, many thanks. Now that the default

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

Weiguo, You're welcome. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Haoweiguo [mailto:haowei...@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:17 PM To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge); saja...@cisco.com Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: RE: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

November 12, 2015 3:39 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' > > HI John, Weiguo, > > John E Drake : > > > > It is needed in order to distinguish between an advertising node that > > only supports no

Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'

ifies a feasible tunnel." We hope this is satisfactory. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:08 AM > To: John E Drake; bess@ietf.org > Cc: Eric Rosen > Subject: Re:

Re: [bess] draft-hao-bess-inter-nvo3-vpn-optionc

Weiguo, Comment inline. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Haoweiguo > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:18 AM > To: UTTARO, JAMES; John E Drake; EXT - thomas.mo...@orange.com; Lucy > yong; Hende

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-election-02

No IPR Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: John E Drake > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:24 AM > To: 'Martin Vigoureux'; bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-elect...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: RE: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-mo

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

ng WG Last Call). > > > >Reviews are highly welcome anyway, in particular from people close to > >the topic or implementations, and ideally from more than one person, > >the best time being now or at least before the WG LC ends. > > > >We'll start the WG LC in a

Re: [bess] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

Thomas, E-TREE for EVPN (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree-05) will be GA this year. Root or leaf role can be defined on a port or VLAN basis, and Single-Active and All-Active multi-homing are supported. E-TREE for PBB-EVPN is on the roadmap. Yours Irrespectively, John

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay / section 5.1.3 vs. section 9 (was Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps)

Thomas, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:47 AM > To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US); BESS; draft-ietf-bess-evpn- > over...@tools.ietf.o

Re: [bess] Comments on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-04, wrt Inter-AS Option B

Jeffrey, I don't think anyone would argue that the proper solution to per-ES mass withdraw is to include the originating router's address in Ethernet AD and MAC Advertisement routes and the only discussion is the best way to encode this information. Your suggestion of having an ingress PE use

Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-boutros-bess-vxlan-evpn-01

Support. It provides a useful and much needed capability. Not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of thomas.mo...@orange.com > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:44 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc:

Re: [bess] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree

Support. I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Morin > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 3:51 AM > To: BESS; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-et...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [bess] WG Last

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

10:23 AM To: John E Drake; IDR; BESS; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-over...@tools.ietf.org; Ali Sajassi (sajassi); Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US); draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-en...@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps John, 2016-05-18, John E Drake: I

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

like to request that Jorge be the document shepherd for this draft. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) [mailto:saja...@cisco.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:05 AM To: John E Drake; EXT - thomas.mo...@orange.com; IDR; BESS; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-over...@tools.ietf.org

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

, leads me to the conclusion that the overlay draft should not be tweaked to be in alignment with a future solution for encoding VNIs for multicast. Yours Irrespectively, John From: thomas.mo...@orange.com [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 8:32 AM To: John E Drake; IDR

Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status & shepherd) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-03

Martin, I support publishing this document as a Proposed Standard RFC and I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Juniper supports VPWS all-active and single-active redundancy modes with sub-second recovery on egress link failure. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- >

Re: [bess] [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps

Thomas and Jorge, Snipped, comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John > > > >draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay (see section 9) relies on the BGP > >Encapsulation extended to encode the tunnel encap to use for BUM > >traffic, but contrary to other E-VPN routes, relies on the Ethernet Tag > >field

[bess] FW: WG Last Call (including implem status & shepherd) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-03

FYI Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@juniper.net] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 9:54 AM To: EXT - thomas.mo...@orange.com; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US); draft-ietf-bess-evpn-v...@ietf.org; EXT Ali Sajassi (sajassi); EXT Sami Boutros Cc: BESS

Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status & shepherd) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay

Thomas, I'm sorry for the tardy response. I support the publication of this draft as it describes a de-facto industry standard control plane for NVO3 networks; Juniper has implemented it on multiple platforms. I'm not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original

Re: [bess] Call for adoption: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-01

Thomas, Not surprisingly I support the adoption of this draft. Here is our IPR disclosure for it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2942/ Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.mo...@orange.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:58 AM >

Re: [bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay-04

And I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: John E Drake > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 4:45 PM > To: 'Martin Vigoureux' <martin.vigour...@nokia.com>; BESS <bess@ietf.org> > Subject: RE: [bess] WG Last Call for draft

Re: [bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay-04

Support. Juniper has had support for this draft for several years and has demonstrated interoperability with Nokia and Cisco on numerous occasions Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent:

Re: [bess] AD Review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-07

Sami, Snipped, comment inline Yours Irrespectively, John > > > >> Ethernet Tag ID 32-bit field MUST be set to the 24-bit VPWS service > >> instance > identifier value." > > > > > > > >Ok, but you still didn’t mention how the 24-bit value is to be aligned in > >the 32- > bit field. I’m

Re: [bess] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-04

Support and I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 5:08 PM > To: BESS > Subject: [bess] WG Last Call for

Re: [bess] Call for adoption: draft-mackie-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Support and I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigour...@nokia.com] > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 6:55 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-mackie-bess-nsh-bgp-control-pl...@ietf.org > Subject: Call

Re: [bess] WGLC for draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-07

Support. A truly useful document that has already been used by a multiplicity of other drafts. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Scudder > Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 2:39 PM > To: i...@ietf.org > Cc:

Re: [bess] Call for adoption: draft-drake-bess-datacenter-gateway

Martin, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigour...@nokia.com] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:43 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-drake-bess-datacenter-gate...@ietf.org

Re: [bess] AD Review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-08

Alvaro, Comments inline. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alvaro Retana Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 4:49 PM To: bess-cha...@ietf.org Cc: EXT - thomas.mo...@orange.com ; bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] AD Review of

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-10 PMSI with Ingress Replication

Thomas, I completely agree w/ your email, below. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Morin > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 5:42 AM > To: Fedyk, Don ; Marco Marzetti > >

Re: [bess] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-10 PMSI with Ingress Replication

erstand. > > > > OK, I will remove it in the next rev. > > > > Cheers, > > Ali > > > > Best, > > > > -Thomas > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: John E Drake [mailto:jdr...@jun

Re: [bess] WG Adoption and IPR Poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-03

Support, I’m not aware of any undisclosed IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:24 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segm...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG Adoption and

[bess] Issue w/ IGMP and MLD Proxy for EVPN (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy)

-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy]. Yours Irrespectively, John -Original Message- From: stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:09 AM To: John E Drake Subject: RE: IGMP Proxy Hi John, Thanks for the information. It helps. However, that would have been better to have

Re: [bess] Call for adoption: draft-lin-bess-evpn-irb-mcast

Support Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigour...@nokia.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:12 AM > To: bess@ietf.org > Cc: draft-lin-bess-evpn-irb-mc...@ietf.org > Subject: Call for adoption: draft-lin-bess-evpn-irb-mcast >

Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

Hi, The HRW DF election draft defines a new extended community, the DF Election Extended Community (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-03#section-7), which contains a DF election type registry. Why don’t we define a value for AC-based DF election and have the PEs

Re: [bess] new WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05

Support. I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:04 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] new WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05 Hello working group,

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-per-mcast-flow-df-election

Support. I'm not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 9:38 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-per-mcast-flow-df-election Hi

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-04

Support, not aware of any IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:29 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-04 Hi WG, This email begins a two-week poll for

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-03.txt

I’m not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 9:23 AM To: draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-vpws-...@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Wen Lin Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:26 AM To: Sandy Breeze <sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net>; Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <saja...@cisco.com>; UTTARO, JAMES <ju1...@att.com>; John E Drake <jdr...@juniper.net>; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mou

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

Satya, Comment inline. Yours Irrespectively, John [John] Wouldn’t it be better to have this draft define a bit in the Multicast Flags extended community

Re: [bess] WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework

Support, not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:21 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework Hello working group,

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

Ali, I don't mean to quibble but your option A also requires all PEs to be upgraded. However, it's both a more mainstream upgrade and a better solution than the Sandy/Satya proposal. Also, as we discussed last week, the SMET processing already includes what Sandy/Satya proposal wants to do.

Re: [bess] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpls-seamless-integ-01.txt

Support. Juniper has been shipping an implementation of this draft for quite some time and our customers seem to find the draft to be quite useful. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:50 AM

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

Hi, Comments inline Yours Irrespectively, John From: Sandy Breeze <sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 1:42 PM To: John E Drake <jdr...@juniper.net>; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>; Eric Rosen <ero...@junipe

Re: [bess] About draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

Mankamana, Good catch! (I was remarkably provincial in my initial titles.) Yours Irrespectively, John From: Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 4:27 PM To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Cc: Ali Sajassi (sajassi)

Re: [bess] Encoding a 20 bit label in a 24 bit field.

I don't think that's a good idea because depending upon their position in the stack, these labels may not be at the bottom of the stack. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Zhuangshunwan > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 9:02 PM > To: Jakob Heitz

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

Jorge, The other possibility for this case is for each PE to advertise a Per EVI Ethernet A-D route for only those EVIs for which it would become DF if the current DF were to fail. Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [bess] A question regarding draft-wang-bess-evepn-control-word

Hi, Comment inline Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 11:57 AM To: Yutianpeng (Tim) Cc: bess@ietf.org; draft-wang-bess-evpn-control-word.auth...@ietf.org; Wanghaibo (Rainsword) Subject: Re: [bess] A question regarding

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

Patrice, I think it is much cleaner to treat the attachment of a set of L2GW PEs to an L2 network as a set of individual ESes, one per L2GW PE, as Jorge suggests. This is because a remote PE accesses different parts of the L2 network through different L2GW PEs; i.e., to a remote PE the

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

Hi, I agree w/ Jorge's proposal. Yours Irrespectively, John > -Original Message- > From: BESS On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - > US/Mountain View) > Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 4:45 AM > To: bess@ietf.org; draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto.auth...@ietf.org > Subject: [bess]

Re: [bess] Last Call: (Framework for EVPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility) to Proposed Standard

Comment inline Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Neeraj Malhotra mailto:neeraj.i...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, Very solid and understandable. Couple of minor comments [NM]: Section 2.1: Layer-2 devices are particularly susceptible to forwarding loops because of the broadcast

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment

Support, Juniper has supported this feature for an eternity, not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 5:43 AM To: bess@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Wim, The subject draft was designed w/ NSH in mind. We added an MPLS representation of the NSH later, which is the subject of the first draft you referenced, below. The way the subject draft is written, the representation of the NSH and the type of transport tunnel can change on a hop-by-hop

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Andy, That sounds right. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Andrew G. Malis Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 6:32 PM To: John E Drake Cc: Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; stephane.litkow...@orange.com; bess@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

Andy, We’ll add it to the next revision. Thanks for your help. Yours Irrespectively, John From: Andrew G. Malis Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:48 AM To: John E Drake Cc: Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; stephane.litkow...@orange.com; bess@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

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Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

Support Yours Irrespectively, John From: mitesh kanjariya Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 4:49 PM To: bess@ietf.org; draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil...@ietf.org; stephane.litkow...@orange.com Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll for

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

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Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-salam-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01

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Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-rabadan-sajassi-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking-02

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Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve

I'm not aware of any IPR Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Internal From: BESS On Behalf Of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 9:55 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve Hi,

Re: [bess] Shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-06

Hi, We can't time-out an attribute, we would have to time-out the SFPR w/ which it is associated. However, I don't think we should do that. Rather, I think what we should do is indicate that at any point in time an SFF selects its next hop from the intersection of the set of next hop RDs

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

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Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-mh-pa-02

Hi, I agree w/ both Jorge and Krzysztof. All we need is a new DF Election capability, port active load balancing, and a description of how each of the defined DF elections is modified. For HRW, RFC 8584 already describes computing a 32 bit CRC over the concatenation of Ethernet Tag and ESI

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-keyupate-bess-evpn-virtual-hub-02

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Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5899)

om> | phone: +1 613 254 4814 On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:30 AM John E Drake mailto:40juniper@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: I agree Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) > mailto:jorge.raba...@nokia.com>> wrote: > >

Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5900)

This should be rejected as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:32 PM, RFC Errata System > wrote: > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8584, > "Framework for Ethernet VPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility". > >

Re: [bess] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8584 (5899)

I agree Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) > wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't understand why this erratum was filed. > "Broadcast Domain" is the correct term used in RFC7432 and all the EVPN > documents. > It should be rejected. > >

Re: [bess] REMINDER Re: WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-04

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Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast-04

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Re: [bess] WGLC , IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-03

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Re: [bess] new WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-05

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Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, Perhaps, although AFAIK the three values defined in RFC 4364 have not been supplemented since it was published in 2006. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:49 AM > To:

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben, An RD is encoded using the same format as an extended community but it isn't an extended community. Rather, it is actually part of the NLRI. The first octet is always zero whereas the first octet of an SFIR Pool Identifier extended community will always be non-zero (TBD6). Yours

Re: [bess] IPSec Tunnels and draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn

Hi, I also agree with Ali. Eric specifically included the Tunnel Encapsulation Extended Community in his draft at our request in order to support RFC 8365. I.e., the draft that became RFC 8365 initially used the Tunnel Encapsulation Extended Community defined in RFC 5512 and pre-dated by

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-dunbar-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-07

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Re: [bess] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-02

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Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-geneve-01

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Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-mohanty-bess-weighted-hrw-01

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Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-02

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Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

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Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Thanks! Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:26 PM > To: Ali Sajassi (sajassi) > Cc: The IESG ; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet- > forward...@ietf.org; bess-cha...@ietf.org;

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's DISCUSS ballot comment on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09

Ben, Thanks for your help. I think Ali will add the text from Amanda in the next published version of the draft. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 1:28 PM > To: John E Drak

Re: [bess] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-10

Excellent, thanks so much for your help on this. Yours Irrespectively, John Juniper Business Use Only > -Original Message- > From: Gyan Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 4:28 PM > To: Lars Eggert > Cc: General Area Review Team ; bess@ietf.org; draft-ietf- >

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

Bruno, I had suggested: "The value field in the link bandwidth EC is to be treated as a 6 octet unsigned integer and it is the provider's responsibility to encode it consistently across all of the PEs attached to a given ES. So, for example, if the provider wanted the EC to represent

Re: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb

...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 10:06 AM To: John E Drake Cc: slitkows.i...@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org; Neeraj Malhotra Subject: RE: [bess] New short WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb [External Email. Be cautious of content] John, > It's *not* all egress PEs, it's only the mu

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