Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
John Burrell wrote: Thanks for your input. All the items you mention were covered at some point in the discussion. Armin confirmed that all the software components associated with the nouveau driver were performing as expected - at least as far as he could tell from the logs. There didn't

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread John Burrell
Could you post your dmesg output (or /var/log/kern.log from last boot) after nouveau starts to misbehave? I think I'd have to email it to you because it's more that 50 KB. Is that okay? Sure, no problem. Note that you can always compress the log. xz -9 can work very well. I only

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 05:08 PM, John Burrell wrote: Could you post your dmesg output (or /var/log/kern.log from last boot) after nouveau starts to misbehave? I think I'd have to email it to you because it's more that 50 KB. Is that okay? Sure, no problem. Note that you can always compress the

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread John Burrell
Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel config? CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP Anyways, you can try adding acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor to your kernel command line. I doubt it will change anything, but it's worth a

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 07:53 PM, John Burrell wrote: Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel config? CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP In 3.4 kernel, it is located under x86 specific drivers or whatever. It is marked as DELL Laptop

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 05:53:27PM +, John Burrell wrote: Thanks for your time and comments Armin and thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - it's much appreciated. From your earlier post, I had the impression that the display went weird when you ran startx ? If that is

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Matt Burgess
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 20:24 +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 07/18/2012 07:53 PM, John Burrell wrote: Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel config? CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP In 3.4 kernel, it is located under x86

[blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modules from the nouveau wiki site. I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is therefore enabled. When I do modprobe nouveau or startx I still get the cycling of the colored screens. startx now

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
did you update your init ram disk? it will be necessary since kms runs from the very early stages of the boot process... -- Maginot JĂșnior LPIC 3 - CCNA - CLA On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:44 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: I installed the latest git versions of libdrm,

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modules from the nouveau wiki site. I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is therefore enabled. When I do modprobe nouveau or startx I still get

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote: On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modules from the nouveau wiki site. I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:46 +0200 From: kre...@email.com To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: I installed

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:35 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:46 +0200 From: kre...@email.com To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded did you update your init ram disk? I didn't set

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 09:42 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re:

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote: On 07/17/2012 09:42 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 09:56 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote: On 07/17/2012 09:42 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, John Burrell john_burr...@hotmail.com wrote: From:

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Maginot Junior wrote: You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary driver can't run with nouveau. That's true. You need the initrd updated to have the KMS/DRM modules from kernel since the early

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Maginot Junior wrote: You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary driver can't run with nouveau. That's true. You need

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 10:24 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Maginot Junior wrote: You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary driver

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
Have you ever tried using nouveau with Ubuntu? Did it have same behaviour? No, I've not messed around with Ubuntu at all. I don't think I have the expertise to start playing around with it. I'd have to be held by the hand to know how to use nouveau instead of nvidia. I could blacklist

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 10:45 PM, John Burrell wrote: Have you ever tried using nouveau with Ubuntu? Did it have same behaviour? No, I've not messed around with Ubuntu at all. I don't think I have the expertise to start playing around with it. I'd have to be held by the hand to know how to use

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
you could post lsmod output from Ubuntu so someone could guide you to check if you have necesary kernel stuff on your LFS kernel. Laptops have been always complicated when it comes to Linux (well, newer ones). okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached.

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 11:04 PM, John Burrell wrote: you could post lsmod output from Ubuntu so someone could guide you to check if you have necesary kernel stuff on your LFS kernel. Laptops have been always complicated when it comes to Linux (well, newer ones). okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached.

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached. Hm. I've never seen most of the stuff you have there. But from that, I see the laptop is Dell. Have you selected laptop extras like WMI and such in your kernel? Also, it would be nice for you to build udev from BLFS in order to get keymap feature,

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:47:35 +0200 Armin K. kre...@email.com wrote: Yay, you missed the world. This is LFS, it does not use initrd ... And blacklisting nouveau does not disable KMS, it just disables the driver from loading automatically by udev. That way you can boot using VESA. Nouveau

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:24:50PM +, John Burrell wrote: Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to work so far is Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use really. To have a better chance of saving the logs : Alt-SysRQ-s (sync), wait for a

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
So should I do startx and then try pressing different keys while it's cycling through the colors? Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to work so far is Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use really. jb. Heh, everything

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 01:02 AM, John Burrell wrote: So should I do startx and then try pressing different keys while it's cycling through the colors? Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to work so far is Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use