Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-09 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale, On the cobolt, I see no reason why the case has to be so frail, and why the bottom is so thick either. We've looked at a couple print tapes and they don't use sprockets but we can't tell what they're doing as it's all surface mount chips with the numbers ground off. On the printers with

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-09 Thread Tom Fowle
Terry, I didn't know about the starett tape with serial port! I'll look into it, if you have a model number handy it might speed the research. I'd bet some solution smaller than a laptop would be possible. Back when i was looking at LCD readout tapes, I tried to get at Sterett for help and

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-09 Thread Tom Fowle
Forgot to comment on bar codes. they may actually represent the specific measurement rather than just a passing line which is only relative to the last passing line. That, along with likely some error correcting scheme could be pretty good I'd think. Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-08 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale, I think the sprocket method is the best I can imagine, although we've looked at a couple of mass market tapes and they don't have sprocket holes. Neither can we figure out how they work. We feel, just on intuitive guess work and experience with optical stuff, that counting marks on the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-08 Thread Terry Klarich
Hey all: I've been reading about tape measures in general. And, have come to reconfirm my opinion. It seems that starrett still makes the best digital tape measure. I'm sure there are those who will disagree though. About 2000, I purchased a Starrett DigiTape along with the serial cable. I

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Fowle
Eric We bought one at work in hopes it would do better than the Cobolt. the technology used to keep track of the tape seems identical in both. The voice is a lower quality than the cobolt but very similar. the function of buttons is different but not dramatically so. It uses 2 AA cells rather

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-07 Thread Dale Leavens
: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures Eric We bought one at work in hopes it would do better than the Cobolt. the technology used to keep track of the tape seems identical in both. The voice is a lower quality than the cobolt but very similar. the function of buttons is different

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-07 Thread Agent086b
it. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures Eric We bought one at work in hopes it would do better than the Cobolt. the technology used

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2009-11-07 Thread Scott Howell
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures Eric We bought one at work in hopes it would do better than the Cobolt. the technology used to keep track of the tape seems identical in both. The voice is a lower quality than

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
Dan Shaft encoders aren't much, but the accurately punched tape that won't crack seems to my little cynical brain to be the problem. I've wondered about taking the Cobolt unit and gutting it, using only the case and tape and encoder/sprocket and re-doing the microprocessor. Wish I could just

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
The cobolt unit has a tape with a holes that run through a sprocketed wheel inside the box. This, presumably, turns a digital shaft encoder that tells the microprocessor how many counts it's moved. These encoders can count several hundred counts per revolution of a shaft, so accuracy isn't a big

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Dan Rossi
Hey Tom, So, I've got a tape measure that isn't so happy. If I coughed up some bucks for a shiny new shaft encoder, a micro processor, and give you the nicely sprocketed tape from my unit. You think you can crank out a new tape measure chock full of new features? or at least one that works

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Dale Leavens
at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures The cobolt unit has a tape with a holes that run through a sprocketed wheel inside

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
I'm pretty much guessing about the sprocketed shaft encoder, that's how I'd do it. I believe if they were using optical counting the holes would be smaller. But if Dan sends me one and I open it up maybe I'll be able to tell for sure Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
Dan, My colleague Josh Miele has a busted one also and I've thought about doing just that. Not sure I can fit it in the case because I don't have circuit board fabricatin techniques available Wouldn't need the new encoder, have to see if the one they have may still work If you have one that

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread M. Terblanche
I'd think the optical way is more precise since the shaft will be turning faster and faster the more tape you pull out, just like a standard tape. Point is, it doesn't reely seem it's worth the money. Matthys.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
Matthys, The tape is still moving as fast and being optically counted just like the rotating shaft. I'd go with the shaft encoder because they're s standard part and that's better than manufacturing your own optical encoder and the necessary light proof guides to keep the tape moving in a stable

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread David Engebretson
I've had a Cobalt talking tape measure for several years. It helps me work with my buddies - they can be up on the roof and call out measurements - i can cut them whatever they need and then hand them the wood to nail in. I am painfully allergic to hammers so I stay away from that kind of work.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Tom Fowle
The radius of the coil doesn't matter, I believe the tape would be read where it enters the case whether it has a sprocket the holes ride in, or it's done optically. Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-07 Thread Dan Rossi
The encoder shaft would not be on the center shaft that the tape is wound around. So, it would not spin any faster as the tape was extended. The encoder shaft would be separate and have a sprocket that would fit into the holes on the tape. So as the tape leaves the case, it turns the

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-06 Thread Dan Rossi
My Cobalt talking tape measure is going to go back to England I think. This weekend it was driving me crazy. It was actually giving consistently wrong measurements. Then it would start giving me the crazy measurements like 2792 inches. A battery change didn't seem to help it much. It also

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-06 Thread Rob Monitor
to that. ROB from Minnesota - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures My Cobalt talking tape measure is going to go back to England I think. This weekend

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-06 Thread Bill Gallik
Exactly how do these talking tape measures function? Is there actually a tape measure that's drawn out of the case like any ordinary tape measure? If so I'd assume that the tape itself is somehow marked so the case can identify how much of the tape has been withdrawn, is this correct?

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-06 Thread Dale Leavens
at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures Exactly how do these talking tape measures function? Is there actually a tape

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-06 Thread Loren Buntemeyer
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures My Cobalt talking tape measure is going to go back to England I think. This weekend it was driving me crazy. It was actually giving consistently wrong measurements. Then it would start giving me the crazy measurements like 2792 inches

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread Lenny McHugh
I believe that you can purchase the cobolt model from maxiaids for around $100. - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures L.SS group has

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread Dan Rossi
The cobolt tape measure can be gotten from BlindMiceMart.com for 99 bucks and from one or two other places for 95 bucks but no idea of what the shipping is. Unless this double A model is significantly better, the Cobolt one is a better buy. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread William Stephan
Stephan -Original Message- .From: Larry Stansifer[EMAIL PROTECTED] .Sent: 8/1/07 3:19:04 PM .To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com .Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures . .L.SS group has the double A model for $119.95 but their web .site indicated

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread tunecollector
I bought mine online about a year ago from Cobolt. It was quite easy and the shipping from the UK to California was fast. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:48 PM To:

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread Dale Leavens
- From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures The cobolt tape measure can be gotten from BlindMiceMart.com for 99 bucks and from one or two other places for 95 bucks but no idea of what

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread Cy Selfridge
] Talking tape measures L.SS group has the double A model for $119.95 but their web site indicated it was back order to 13 August. The cobolt systems sounds like the best dollar deal but shipping across the big puddle would eat any savings on the initial price. Has anybody had any experience

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures

2007-08-01 Thread Dan H.
cobolt sysstems ships them free matter -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Stansifer Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:19 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking tape measures L.SS group has

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure

2007-07-31 Thread Rob Monitor
HI GUYS, Well I just ordered one of the talking tape that uses the A type battery. Will let you all know how it works when I get it.. ROB from Minnesota - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: Handyman-Blind Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:20 AM Subject:

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure

2007-07-31 Thread Cy Selfridge
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Monitor Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:00 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure HI GUYS, Well I just ordered one of the talking tape that uses the A type battery. Will let you all

Re: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure

2007-07-31 Thread Mike Rusk
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure Man, I wish you folks would not send these links because I always find something I just can not live without! (ROFL) Seriously, this tape measure sounds slick as snot. The ability to have

RE: [Bulk] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure

2007-07-31 Thread Cy Selfridge
] RE: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure Did you notice they sell the Note teller as well? Seems like a good price for the thing. I'm going to have to add a couple items from there to my wish list as well. - Original Message - From: Cy

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Talking Tape Measures | Measuring Tapes - Talking Tape Measure

2007-07-31 Thread Lee A. Stone
cy, Cy, Cy, just hold onto that credit card. I am trying to find a link to an ice cream place which will direct ship. every blind handyman should, just as should the blind handywmen have access to fresh made carrot cake and ice cream after a hard days work. even when building a loft which