Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2021-02-27 Thread Telesto
Inspiring questions even when not running for they MC.  I personally still struggling  with concept of being a Member. Except for they @libreoffice.org e-mail and a vote. Similar with the task of MC. Formally keeping the BoD in line. They in theory can impeachment on or more board members. It

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Italo, Italo Vignoli wrote on 10/09/2020 00:58: > On 9/9/20 11:29 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: > >> This is a very interesting point. 4k people in Weblate, so that would be >> 350 persons or so on average for every language that LibreOffice supports? > > Although I have a degree in humanities, I am

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2020-09-10 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Italo Vignoli wrote: Yet, having them on our side showing support, spreading the word, is important. And the same applies in the area of e.g. marketing and design. We do want to value the support also from people that help on a booth or do a local presentation 2, 3 times a year and have

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-09 Thread Marina Latini
On 04.09.2020 13:17, Michael Meeks wrote: Hello Michael, hello all, Fair enough =) good point - here are a few questions I came up with. Please note - it is trivial to ask more questions in a few minutes than can be answered in a lifetime - but here are a few things I'd love to know

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-09 Thread GPS di Gabriele Ponzo
Il giorno ven 4 set 2020 alle ore 13:18 Michael Meeks < michael.me...@collabora.com> ha scritto: > * many MC members say they want to expand the membership. > Given that LibreOffice is rather static in terms of its > number of those involved in development: coding, UX, > translation,

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-09 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 9/9/20 11:29 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: > This is a very interesting point. 4k people in Weblate, so that would be > 350 persons or so on average for every language that LibreOffice supports? Although I have a degree in humanities, I am still capable of handling basic operations: 4000 divided by

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Italo Vignoli wrote on 04/09/2020 16:44: > On 9/4/20 4:26 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > >> Sorry for that. The essence of the question is simple - if you >> want to grow the membership there are at least these two approaches: > >> + encourage more people to contribute

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2020-09-07 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hi Telesto, Am 05.09.2020 um 20:32 schrieb Telesto: > > This would give membership some actual advantage, I think. You provided really good ideas how to improve the rights of the members. And to be honest: the system is getting improved, although very slowly. For example last year we were voting

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2020-09-07 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Dennis Roczek wrote: Me, too! But GDPR is the atomic argument to stop the discussion here. apart from that - we already heard that people are reluctant to become members, some are shy, thinking their contributons do not qualify. Knowing their application will be discussed in public,

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-07 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hi Brett, Am 06.09.2020 um 04:48 schrieb Brett Cornwall: > On 2020-09-05 18:53, Dennis Roczek wrote: >> Am 05.09.2020 um 18:07 schrieb Dennis Roczek: * To what degree should the MC's decisions & discussion   be transparent (ie. publicly available) ? >>> Most internal discussions are

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2020-09-06 Thread Brett Cornwall
On 2020-09-05 18:53, Dennis Roczek wrote: Hi Michael, I missed something. ;-) Am 05.09.2020 um 18:07 schrieb Dennis Roczek: * To what degree should the MC's decisions & discussion be transparent (ie. publicly available) ? Most internal discussions are about improving the tools or about

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2020-09-05 Thread Gustavo Buzzatti Pacheco
Hi Michael, members, community! Sharing my answers, thanks for the questions! On 04.09.2020 08:17, Michael Meeks wrote: ... * many MC members say they want to expand the membership. Given that LibreOffice is rather static in terms of its number of those involved in development: coding,

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-05 Thread Telesto
Op 5-9-2020 om 18:07 schreef Dennis Roczek: I talked to many different contributors and mostly they simply do not know that there is something like a membership and also do not have any interest in another mail address and ask what are their gains in getting into the club. Still not really a

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2020-09-05 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi again :) Am 05.09.20 um 18:32 schrieb Muhammet Kara: > By the way, let me try to explain the problem/unfairness described above a  > bit by example, for the ones who are not familiar with the issue: > > A and B are working in the company X > C and D are working in the company Y > > They all 

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-05 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi Am 04.09.20 um 13:17 schrieb Michael Meeks: > .. > + Do you think we expand the membership by accpting > more marginal contributions for membership cf. > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Role#Contributing As § 10 (3) of our statutes read "The

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-05 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hi Michael, I missed something. ;-) Am 05.09.2020 um 18:07 schrieb Dennis Roczek: >> * To what degree should the MC's decisions & discussion >> be transparent (ie. publicly available) ? > Most internal discussions are about improving the tools or about > concrete applications. The discussion

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-05 Thread Muhammet Kara
Hi Michael, Andreas, dear members of BoT, On 9/4/20 2:17 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Andreas, On 03/09/2020 19:59, Andreas Mantke wrote: b) TDF currently has 221 members and none of them asked any question to the candidates! That's something to think long and hard about. What does this mean

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-05 Thread Dennis Roczek
Hello Michael, Am 04.09.2020 um 13:17 schrieb Michael Meeks: > * many MC members say they want to expand the membership. > Given that LibreOffice is rather static in terms of its > number of those involved in development: coding, UX, > translation, documentation etc. > > + how do

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Marc Paré
Le 20-09-04 à 10 h 44, Italo Vignoli a écrit : > There is a third solution: convince more contributors to apply for > membership, as many of them do not even know that it is possible to > become TDF members by contributing to LibreOffice. > > For instance, we have over 4K people registered on

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread ahmad haris
Hi Mike and Andreas, I just joined the board-discuss couple days ago, so not much know about previous topics (even it can read on archive) Pada tanggal Jum, 4 Sep 2020 pukul 18.18 Michael Meeks < michael.me...@collabora.com> menulis: > Hi Andreas, > > On 03/09/2020 19:59, Andreas Mantke wrote:

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2020-09-04 Thread Franklin Weng
Maybe, but you still don't answer my question.  In what rules forbid Daniel to do this? BTW, If I would reply Michael's question mail I would be negative too, because I don't like his way to ask such questions, just like I don't like the way you ask Daniel either. F. Simon Phipps 於 2020/9/4

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2020-09-04 Thread Franklin Weng
Did you mean that Daniel has no rights to speak out his question?  If so, In what rules say only candidates can reply questions to MC candidates? If no, then why did you ask such a question? F Simon Phipps 於 2020/9/4 下午9:47 寫道: > I was not aware you were a candidate, Daniel. Did I miss your

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi *, to comment on one aspect here for the moment: Italo Vignoli wrote: > I think the question is legitimate if you take away the last portion: > "assuming the statutes can be tweaked". I do not see how the statutes > can be tweaked, but I think that they can be applied with some added >

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 9/4/20 4:26 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > Sorry for that. The essence of the question is simple - if you > want to grow the membership there are at least these two approaches: > + encourage more people to contribute more to meet > the criteria > or > + lower the

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Daniel, On 04/09/2020 14:29, Daniel Armando Rodriguez wrote: >> * many MC members say they want to expand the membership. >>   Given that LibreOffice is rather static in terms of its >>   number of those involved in development: coding, UX, >>   translation, documentation etc. >> >> + how

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2020-09-04 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Franklin. Daniel appeared to be responding negatively to Michael's question rather than asking any of his own. I see no reason why Board members need to argue between themselves on this thread when you've plenty of scope for that on your secret lists. Best regards, Simon On Fri, Sep 4, 2020

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2020-09-04 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
First of all, it is a public list. On the other hand, not being a candidate disqualifies me from asking questions? El 2020-09-04 10:47, Simon Phipps escribió: I was not aware you were a candidate, Daniel. Did I miss your nomination? S. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 2:29 PM Daniel Armando

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Simon Phipps
I was not aware you were a candidate, Daniel. Did I miss your nomination? S. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 2:29 PM Daniel Armando Rodriguez < drodrig...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > El 2020-09-04 08:17, Michael Meeks escribió: > > Hi Andreas, > > > > On 03/09/2020 19:59, Andreas Mantke wrote: > >>

Re: [board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Daniel Armando Rodriguez
El 2020-09-04 08:17, Michael Meeks escribió: Hi Andreas, On 03/09/2020 19:59, Andreas Mantke wrote: b) TDF currently has 221 members and none of them asked any question to the candidates! That's something to think long and hard about. What does this mean to the democratic culture of the

[board-discuss] MCC questions ..

2020-09-04 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Andreas, On 03/09/2020 19:59, Andreas Mantke wrote: > b) TDF currently has 221 members and none of them asked any question to > the candidates! > > That's something to think long and hard about. What does this mean to > the democratic culture of the foundation. It was created to get the >