Re: Playing Politics

2002-09-28 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 9/28/02 9:19 PM, "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: > >> >> To accuse only the Republicans of politicizing the war exposes the polarity >> of your views on the matter. >> > They all play politics, but Bush & Co. seem to have taken it to a new > level, basically

Re: What If Cars Ran On Water

2002-09-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > You Think A Gallon Of Gas Is Expensive? > > > > The following will make one think, and put things in perspective: > > I believe these are convenience store prices, and the amounts given are > smaller ones that would j

You Gotta Have Friends

2002-09-28 Thread Doug
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/29/opinion/29FRIE.html Friedman echoes my own sentiments here: "Bottom line: Iraq is a war of choice, not a war of no choice, and it is a war of choice that will require a lot of nation-building if it is to produce a more peaceful Iraq. If the Bush team can enlis

Transparency...

2002-09-28 Thread Doug
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/29/technology/29TAPE.html "With the recent arrest of a woman in Indiana whom a security camera videotaped beating her daughter in a parking lot, the presence of electronic eyes across America has drawn new attention. But what security and privacy specialists have

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 11:26:44PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Now, a profitable company lays people off to become more profitable. What company is profitable now? -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mc

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Deborah Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must > --- Dan Minette wrote: > > >I also get the feeling that many on the > > list are extremely > > i

Re: Theism, atheism, and in-between

2002-09-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Theism, atheism, and in-between > > I don't think it's that simple unless you assume that a) all "theisms" are > equivalent, which they're not I

Bear Market Longest in 60 Years

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=businessnews&StoryID=1508485 The current bear market in stocks is already the longest in 60 years, and with few investors willing to step up and buy, the likelihood is it will go a little longer, market analysts say, Worse news for some investors, th

Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26/creationism.evolution/index.html A suburban Atlanta school board Thursday night voted unanimously to allow teachers to introduce students to different views about the origins of life. The Cobb County Board of Education, the state's second-largest school boa

Re: What If Cars Ran On Water

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > You Think A Gallon Of Gas Is Expensive? > > The following will make one think, and put things in perspective: I believe these are convenience store prices, and the amounts given are smaller ones that would jack up the price a bit more. I'll comment on a few that I *

The Next Wave

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/print/0,1643,41550,FF.html Forget all the futuristic hype about subatomic robots. Nanotechnology is already here, and Burlington CEO George Henderson is using it to save the U.S. textile industry from extinction (and your pants from Beaujolais). Most CEOs ig

Record Labels Seek OK for Online Music Sabotage

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=768&e=1&cid=769&u=/nm/20020 926/music_nm/media_piracy_dc Frustrated by the continuing presence of free music on the Internet, the recording industry asked for Congress' blessing on Thursday to gum up the online networks they blame for slowing their

General Motors May Bet Billions on Unproven Fuel-Cell Engines

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=Top%20Financial%20News&s1=blk&tp =ad_topright_topfin&T=markets_box.ht&s2=ad_right1_topfin&bt=ad_position1_top fin&box=ad_box_all&tag=financial&middle=ad_frame2_topfin&s=APZKgPxX8R2VuZXJh Richard Wagoner, chief executive officer of General Motors Corp.,

Dutch police will be taken off the beat if they cannot fight

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.orange-today.co.uk/news/story/sm_678535.html Dutch policemen will be taken off the beat unless they can prove they can fight in new tests. Rank and file police officers fear up to 20% of the country's 33,000-strong force could fail the combat tests. They have been introduced after re

What If Cars Ran On Water

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
You Think A Gallon Of Gas Is Expensive? The following will make one think, and put things in perspective: Diet Snapple 16 oz $1.29 . $10.32 per gallon Lipton Ice Tea 16 oz $1.19 .. $ 9.52 per gallon Gatorade 20 oz $1.59 .. $10.17 per gallon Ocean Spray 16 oz $1.25 $10 .00 per

Re: Playing Politics

2002-09-28 Thread Doug
Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: > >To accuse only the Republicans of politicizing the war exposes the polarity >of your views on the matter. > They all play politics, but Bush & Co. seem to have taken it to a new level, basically using the fear generated by 911 to obscure the important issues o

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 07:08:52PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > Translating into English units, we have a volume just under 50 cc, and a > ^^ >

Re: The West Wing

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
John Garcia wrote: > I said it was uninteresting because most of it all happened off camera, > but now that I think about it, it is probably the beginning of an arc > revolving around Abby Bartlett's complicity in covering up her > husband's MS, and that will be a key point in the Republican camp

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 07:08:52PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Translating into English units, we have a volume just under 50 cc, and a ^^ in^3 > sphere radius of about

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:44 PM > Subject: Re: 33lb's of uranium > > > The Fool wrote: > > > > > > http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryI

Re: The West Wing

2002-09-28 Thread John Garcia
OK, Mrs. Bartlett was being interviewed on some TV talk show, and she was asked how she felt about losing her license to practice medicine. She replied that she was just a wife and mother now. Mrs. Ritchie (sp?), wife of the Republican presidential candidate, told reporters that she (Mrs. Ritc

Re: Playing Politics

2002-09-28 Thread Matthew and Julie Bos
On 9/28/02 3:30 AM, "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "This is not how a great nation should debate issues of war and peace. > To question people's patriotism for simply raising questions about how a > war is to be fought and won -- to say that anybody who doesn't support > the president's part

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: 33lb's of uranium > The Fool wrote: > > > > http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1508708 > > What volume of uranium w

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: Re: 33lb's of uranium > The Fool wrote: > > > > http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1508708 > > What volume of uranium w

Re: 33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > > http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1508708 What volume of uranium would that be, anyway? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

33lb's of uranium

2002-09-28 Thread The Fool
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Re: Extremely bad dog-related smells Re:TequilaRe:Intellectualoutputfrom the Arab World

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Extremely bad dog-related smells Re:TequilaRe:Intellectualoutput from the Arab World > I wonder if there's something you could spray around you

Re: copyspeak

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > > > From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 4) If you're hanging around some place with a public water fountain, > > that's free. But water varies from place to place, and even building > to > > building. For example, when I was pregnant and we went to College > > Sta

Re: Extremely bad dog-related smells Re:TequilaRe:Intellectualoutput from the Arab World

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: > > The Fool wrote: > > > Compare: When a Cat craps on the carpet: not so good. When a Dog craps > > on the carpet: Extremely bad, you can tell wherever you are in the house, > > for several days afterward. > > Well there is one cat that has made a habit of le

Re: copyspeak

2002-09-28 Thread The Fool
> From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > > > At 15:25 26-09-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: > > > > >But the marketplace demonstrates you can compete with free. Purveyors of > > >bottled water do it. > > > > They do? How? Do you own a fresh water well? Is tapwater

RE: [Brin-l] [TV] Anyone watch "Firefly"?

2002-09-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:40 27-09-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: > > To plagiarize my favorite haggis commercial: > > "You're a wicked, wicked man!" > >I wish I got haggis commercials where I live. If you like haggis, then this is the place to be: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Northeast/09/26/offbeat.haggis.king.ap/

Re: Extremely bad dog-related smells Re: TequilaRe:Intellectualoutput from the Arab World

2002-09-28 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
The Fool wrote: > Compare: When a Cat craps on the carpet: not so good. When a Dog craps > on the carpet: Extremely bad, you can tell wherever you are in the house, > for several days afterward. Well there is one cat that has made a habit of leaving it's ehum... wastes in our backgarden. Dog's

Re: copyspeak

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 15:25 26-09-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: > > >But the marketplace demonstrates you can compete with free. Purveyors of > >bottled water do it. > > They do? How? Do you own a fresh water well? Is tapwater free in the US? > > Jeroen "Ban dihydrogenmonoxide!" van B

Re: Vamos salvar Minas

2002-09-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert Seeberger wrote: > >I was deleting them offhand till I noticed they were not in spanish (what >one would expect when one lives in Texas). It looks like it is about the >upcoming elections and is a slam against a candidate. > >Alberto! Care to comment? > I usually don't endorse reading spam

Re: American Dreams

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
"J. van Baardwijk" wrote: > > At 08:23 28-09-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: > > >Does anybody know, or at least know how I could find out, the title of the > >music being used in all of the "American Dreams" promos on NBC. > > Well... er... um... er... have you considered asking NBC about that

Re: The West Wing

2002-09-28 Thread Julia Thompson
John Garcia wrote: > > You missed: > > - Some uninteresting politics regarding the First Lady Um, I'm actually interested. And I have no idea if Dan taped both hours. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The West Wing

2002-09-28 Thread John Garcia
You missed: - The explanation of why Ms. Fitterer (Lily Tomlin) was originally fired from the White House - Josh and Toby realizing (again!) that what they do has an impact on "ordinary folks" - Charlie deciding to become a Big Brother to Simon's (Mark Harmon's Secret Service agent character

Brin-L.com: David Brin Section Added

2002-09-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
I just put the David Brin Section back on-line at www.brin-l.com. The section contains a biography, a bibliography, an incomplete collection of DB's essays and articles, and an overview of His scheduled appearances (aka Brin Sightings). The section can be reached by clicking the "David Brin" b

Server down

2002-09-28 Thread Nick Arnett
Folks, My Internet connection has been down for the last couple of hours... but if you get this message, it's back on-line. Not sure what the problem is, but it is quite unusual for it to fail. Sorry for any inconvenience. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: Access To On-line NY Times Articles

2002-09-28 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: > Alberto Monteiro wrote: >>I like to register with name "sunda" and password >>"aqcatb". This acronymous is obvious for any brazilian. And no, I >>can't explain it in this sensible and polite community > > Will you mail an explanation off-list to anyone admitting to be >

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2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
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Fw: Vamos salvar Minas

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
I've been getting these messages on a fairly regular basis for a while now. Anyone else? I was deleting them offhand till I noticed they were not in spanish (what one would expect when one lives in Texas). It looks like it is about the upcoming elections and is a slam against a candidate. Albert

Re: American Dreams

2002-09-28 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
John wondered: > Does anybody know, or at least know how I could find out, the title of the > music being used in all of the "American Dreams" promos on NBC. > Actually, there are a number of different promos, but this particular song > doesn't have words, uses lots of violins, and sounds an awfu

Re: American Dreams

2002-09-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:23 28-09-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: >Does anybody know, or at least know how I could find out, the title of the >music being used in all of the "American Dreams" promos on NBC. Well... er... um... er... have you considered asking NBC about that? Just a thought. Jeroen "Any more que

American Dreams

2002-09-28 Thread John D. Giorgis
Does anybody know, or at least know how I could find out, the title of the music being used in all of the "American Dreams" promos on NBC. Actually, there are a number of different promos, but this particular song doesn't have words, uses lots of violins, and sounds an awful lot like some stock mo

Re: copyspeak

2002-09-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:25 26-09-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: >But the marketplace demonstrates you can compete with free. Purveyors of >bottled water do it. They do? How? Do you own a fresh water well? Is tapwater free in the US? Jeroen "Ban dihydrogenmonoxide!" van Baardwijk __

Re: rc5-64 brute forced

2002-09-28 Thread The Fool
> From: The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.rsasecurity.com/news/releases/pr.asp?doc_id=1400 http://www.distributed.net/pressroom/news-20020926.html distributed.net completes rc5-64 project (list announcement) september 25, 2002 RC5-64 HAS BEEN SOLVED! On 14-Jul-2002, a relatively char

Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-28 Thread Ritu Ko
The Fool wrote: > And yes I will eventually stop being lazy and finish my reply > to that ko > person. Up to 240k. > > I'm not gonna send it to the list. I will send it to those > who ask. And > probably in parts. As soon as I stop feeling lazy and actually finish > it. I don't have any w

Re: Horses, was Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-09-28 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Deborah Harrell wrote: > One of the moments I loved best at a recent Horse Expo > was when 2 Friesians were turned loose in the arena - > ah, so beautiful! And it's one of the breeds that has > 'presence' just standing around. Our farrier has > worked with some and says they have wonderful > te

Re: god vs science

2002-09-28 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:38 AM Subject: god vs science > http://proliberty.com/observer/20020907.htm > That was pretty humorous. And they make fun of people from the south.LOL

god vs science

2002-09-28 Thread The Fool
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Re: Access To On-line NY Times Articles

2002-09-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:44 27-09-2002 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > >I know some people object to having to register in order to read on-line NY > >Times articles, so I took the liberty of getting a registration for all > of us. > > > >Member ID = brinlist > >Password = brinlist > > >:-)) > >I lik

Playing Politics

2002-09-28 Thread Doug
Richard Gephardt: "This is not how a great nation should debate issues of war and peace. To question people's patriotism for simply raising questions about how a war is to be fought and won -- to say that anybody who doesn't support the president's particular policy on national security is aga