Re: Brin: and Tolkien

2002-10-05 Thread Doug
Horn, John wrote: From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Alberto Monteiro wrote: But look at the appendixes. Who rules the Shire after Frodo leaves? The servant, the son of the gardener. Isn't rules a bit strong? Will Whitfoot was kind of a joke wasn't he? His chief task being to preside

First words on Mars contest

2002-10-05 Thread Medievalbk
A HREF=http://www.newmars.com/firstwords/; http://www.newmars.com/firstwords//A Saw this on alt.sf. written It must have just gone up. I instantly filled in all five categories. Guess which one I think is the most likely to actually happen. Brin has a few zingers up. But I'm rechecking the

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:25 04-10-2002 -0500, Adam Lipscomb wrote: I'm not asking for an L3 post - just a simple explanation as to why you insist your position is the correct one. I have already explained that a few times now. I see no reason to keep repeating myself. And the reasoning you give is

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people attribute a certain meaning to the word anti-Semite that differs from what I believe to be its meaning. This is the same kind of logic, quacks, holocaust

Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-05 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:57:11 +0200 At 00:32 04-10-2002 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote: sophistry n : a deliberately invalid argument displaying ingenuity in reasoning in the hope of deceiving someone

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output from theArab World)

2002-10-05 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jeroen wrote: I could write my own reply to that, but William Goodall already wrote something that qualifies as an excellent response to what you are saying, so I will just quote it here: Dictionaries are descriptive rather than prescriptive: that is they describe how words *are* used not

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread Ray Ludenia
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Jeroen wrote: I am not at all confused. Rather, it is quite clear to me that many people attribute a certain meaning to the word anti-Semite that differs from what I believe to be its meaning. I stand corrected - you're not confused, you're deliberately acting

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:46:30 +0200 At 00:10 05-10-2002 -0500, The Fool foolishly blated: The word I believe you were looking for is 'blatted'? It

Re: First words on Mars contest

2002-10-05 Thread ValdivielsoB
Cool site, already placed my first words in. Thanks for pointing it out! Mike V. PS - First non-human words, like 'meow, meow, meow-meow, hisss, meow'? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output fromtheArab World)

2002-10-05 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: When we are discussing meaning of words, it is imperative that we rely upon dictionaries, because they are THE sources that tell us HOW A WORD IS USED. If I decide that blue ought to mean green, I can with justification be called wrong on that, because the *commonly

Re: Definitions, Hey Julia

2002-10-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BRIN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Definitions, Hey Julia OK, so you did, sorry I missed it. You wouldn't need to be apologising if you just read a little more carefully

Re: cars, air L3

2002-10-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:54:47PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: Large scale use of wind power also suffers from the fact that there are few places with high sustained winds. After those are harvested, it will be hard to find other good sites. Remember, wind power goes as v^3. Maybe

Re: Teaching a pig to sing (was Re: Intellectual output fromtheArabWorld)

2002-10-05 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Sonja wrote: Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: When we are discussing meaning of words, it is imperative that we rely upon dictionaries, because they are THE sources that tell us HOW A WORD IS USED. If I decide that blue ought to mean green, I can with justification be called wrong on that,

Re: First words on Mars contest

2002-10-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/5/2002 7:25:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool site, already placed my first words in. Thanks for pointing it out! Mike V. PS - First non-human words, like 'meow, meow, meow-meow, hisss, meow'? I was thinking of something like **At

Re: Political humor

2002-10-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia wrote: Deborah wrote: --- Julia wrote: Just got this from another mailing list. Should be OK to view at work if it's OK to look at political cartoons at work. http://www.defectiveyeti.com/iraqevite/ Julia p.s. I'd like to hear what your favorite detail

Re: Definitiions (was Intellectual output from the Arab World)

2002-10-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:31 05-10-2002 +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote about me: Not ONCE has he ever admitted to being wrong about ANYTHING. Do you know what the problem is with that blanket statement? I need to find only *one* message in which I admit to being wrong, in order to prove your statement false. And

Re: papers please

2002-10-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Doug wrote: I haven't seen or used any of the fingerprint stuff yet, but I can't say as it would bother me a whole lot. In fact, if it would protect me against identity theft I would say that the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Of course maybe it's because my fingerprints

Re: First words on Mars contest

2002-10-05 Thread Doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A HREF=http://www.newmars.com/firstwords/; http://www.newmars.com/firstwords//A Saw this on alt.sf. written It must have just gone up. I instantly filled in all five categories. Guess which one I think is the most likely to actually happen. Brin has a few zingers

Re: papers please

2002-10-05 Thread Doug
Deborah Harrell wrote: But as I also stated, while the Jeffco sheriff's office says that 'print info won't be used unless fraud is involved, the example of the misuse of information-gathering by a nearby law enforcement agency (Denver City Police) does not engender my confidence. I must add

Re: First words on Mars contest

2002-10-05 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/5/02 5:25:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brin has a few zingers up. But I'm rechecking the site to see if it specifies first human words. William Taylor ___

minimum wage

2002-10-05 Thread The Fool
The federal minimum wage is 5.15 in 1980 dollars that is (5.15*.465)=~ 2.395 dollars. The federal minumum wage in 1980 was 3.10 dollars. (77%) in 1975 dollars that is (5.15*.317)=~ 1.633 dollars. The federal minumum wage in 1975 was 1.80 dollars. (90%) in 1970 dollars that is

U.S. drops leaflets warning Iraq of counterattack

2002-10-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/10/03/iraq.leaflets/index.html The U.S. military has dropped leaflets over southern Iraq in a promised psychological campaign to undercut support for Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, U.S. officials told CNN on Thursday. The propaganda is being dropped over southern Iraq,

Top bin Laden aide killed

2002-10-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/04/1033538725909.html Ayman al-Zawahiri, considered Osama bin Laden's top aide, has been killed in Afghanistan, Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency reported yesterday, citing informed sources. In a report from Islamabad, the agency cited sources as saying that

The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection

2002-10-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/smerconish/4201780.ht m I'M NOT A conspiracy guy. I think Oswald killed Kennedy, and that he acted alone. And, like all Americans, I figured that the tragic bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was the work of two sick ex-Army

Asteroid threat gets congressional attention

2002-10-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1003asteriod-ON.html In the 1998 science-fiction film Armageddon, a heroic Bruce Willis saved Earth from a marauding asteroid by detonating a nuclear device at the last possible second. The explosion vaporized Willis' character and split the killer space

Re: rc5-64 brute forced

2002-10-05 Thread William T Goodall
on 28/9/02 11:24 am, The Fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our peak rate of 270,147,024 kkeys/sec is equivalent to 32,504 800MHz Apple PowerBook G4 laptops or 45,998 2GHz AMD Athlon XP machines or (to use some rc5-56 numbers) nearly a half million Pentium Pro 200s. Nice to see some