Doug said:
But you must have read thousands of pages of history!
About sixty thousand pages of history, I'd estimate. Not nearly
enough, anyway.
But the problem is the opportunity cost of reading the Baroque Cycle.
In that number of pages I could get through, for example, the whole
On 25/09/2008, at 6:19 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Yes, most of us know what teleology is. Why did you post a
definitition of teleology in response to my descriptions of
evolution as non-teleological?
Charlie.
I recall the term from philosophy 101, but that was over 40 years
ago. I
On 25/09/2008, at 10:51 AM, Bryon Daly wrote:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Who's playing? What are your screen names?
I was planning on buying Spore, but the only 3 installations for a
game you
purchased deal is where I've drawn my line in
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM, John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
post-cyberpunk world before writing Cryptonomicom, a sort of Slashdot
version of the 20th Century. Anathem is what Cryptonomicom would be if
it covered the whole of Western civilisaton from Plato onwards.
For someone
On 9/24/2008 11:17:26 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
xponentrob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's lots about this list and the people on it you know nothing about.
A lot of history here in over a decade.
So I don't
owe you 10 bucks?
No
There is a lot about pop culture you
hkhenson wrote:
I have a problem where I could really use some advice--or at least
put my qualms on the record.
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations
...
One of my friends thinks my concept work on reducing the cost of
materials transport by sub orbital
John Williams wrote:
Max Battcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Um... that's the plot of the book. She's a sexbot designed for having sex
with humans but there aren't any humans left to have sex with...
Now I'm wondering what happened to all the humans. I'll definitely
have to check it out now.
One of my friends thinks my concept work on reducing the cost of
materials transport by sub orbital rocket and multi GW propulsion
laser would not cause me any trouble even if I went on a lecture tour
about it in China. Others think I would be arrested and jailed for
Two sides to this.
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:12 AM, John Williams wrote:
Conscript them like a jury.
Unfortunately, I imagine that forcing people to be politicians
would destroy most good qualities that they might have had
in the job.
The politician part is more involved in seeking office than in
exercising it.
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Requiring qualifications to express an opinion is demanding the
acceptance of argument from authority, a poor place to situate
foundations.
Especially for those of us with enough understanding to form opinions
of our own. The fact
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:53 PM, John Williams wrote:
Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are Eric Reuter and I demand my 10 bucks.
Huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud
I think we invested time and money teaching her how to fly a warplane
which, it turns out, she does very well, and
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:03 PM, John Williams wrote:
We had AIG turn down three offers to buy the company because they
thought they would get a better deal from the government. It turned
out they didn't get the better deal from the government. Now the
stockholders suddenly woke up and said
On 25/09/2008, at 10:31 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Requiring qualifications to express an opinion is demanding the
acceptance of argument from authority, a poor place to situate
foundations.
Especially for those of us with enough
On 25/09/2008, at 10:37 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:03 PM, John Williams wrote:
We had AIG turn down three offers to buy the company because they
thought they would get a better deal from the government. It turned
out they didn't get the better deal from the government.
Charlie said:
Which is why, to take a completely random example, I weigh Dan's and
Rich's opinions on physics or the oil industry far higher than I do
Dan's on biology or economics, or Rich's on modern warfare (say...)
I'm pretty sure that I know much more about modern warfare than I do
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Except they're not major stockholders anymore. Private ownership is
onlt 20% of AIG's stock now, the Fed owns 80% and thus can veto any
shareholder buyout if it wants to. (Unless that changed in the past
few days and I missed it.)
It is ironic, but
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote:
xponentrob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's lots about this list and the people on it you know nothing about.
A lot of history here in over a decade.
So I don't owe you 10 bucks?
Eh, if you do, I'll cover it. It'll give me an excuse to see the guy if
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:03 PM, John Williams wrote:
We had AIG turn down three offers to buy the company because they
thought they would get a better deal from the government. It turned
out they didn't get the better deal from the government. Now
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote:
Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Except they're not major stockholders anymore. Private ownership is
onlt 20% of AIG's stock now, the Fed owns 80% and thus can veto any
shareholder buyout if it wants to. (Unless that changed in the past
few
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is, of course, a remedy: find another list to dog.
My dogs are offended by this.
Let's stick to offending trolls.
My
On 25/09/2008, at 11:45 PM, Richard Baker wrote:
Charlie said:
Which is why, to take a completely random example, I weigh Dan's and
Rich's opinions on physics or the oil industry far higher than I do
Dan's on biology or economics, or Rich's on modern warfare (say...)
I'm pretty sure that
Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I liked it:
http://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2008/09/anathem_by_neal.shtml
Interesting review. I must admit this comparison would have never occurred to
me:
In fact, with its longeurs and constant debate, it occasionally resembles an
unholy hybrid of
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wanting a Trix are for kids!-type line right after that.
That was what I was thinking too, but inspiration did not strike. The
whole subject just makes me too sad. WSJ did a poll the other day
and more than 75% of the respondents thought the bailout was
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
We need another FDR to
start up some a new CCC, WWW etc.
What are those AFTs? CCC is Brazil was Comando de Caça aos Comunistas
(hint: Caça = Hunt, the other words are the same in English). And
WWW sounds terribly like
Bryon Daly wrote:
The reality is that the draconian DRM really doesn't stop piracy at
all. A cracked version was already available on the torrents the
day before the game was on the store shelves. The pirates, of
course, have that version and are never troubled by the DRM system.
John Williams wrote:
Um... that's the plot of the book. She's a sexbot designed
for having sex with humans but there aren't any humans left
to have sex with...
Now I'm wondering what happened to all the humans. I'll definitely
have to check it out now.
Since I didn't read it, I don't
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Bryon Daly wrote:
The reality is that the draconian DRM really doesn't stop piracy at
all. A cracked version was already available on the torrents the
day before the game was on the store shelves. The pirates, of
course, have that version
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
We need another FDR to
start up some a new CCC, WWW etc.
What are those AFTs? CCC is Brazil was Comando de Caça aos Comunistas
(hint: Caça = Hunt, the other words are the same in English). And
WWW sounds terribly like WWIII... I hope I don't preach the same
solution to
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:26 AM, John Williams wrote:
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Golly, that sounds familiar. Echoes of the Iraq war, anyone?
Those politicians are slippery.
And how!
What do others think about
2008/9/25 Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
We need another FDR to
start up some a new CCC, WWW etc.
What are those AFTs? CCC is Brazil was Comando de Caça aos Comunistas
(hint: Caça = Hunt, the other words are the
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:10 AM, Rceeberger wrote:
On 9/24/2008 11:17:26 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
xponentrob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's lots about this list and the people on it you know nothing
about.
A lot of history here in over a decade.
So I don't
owe you 10
Dan M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because I believe that historical data is useful. I think this is a point
where we have very strong differences. In your replies to most, you tend to
ignore/snip a wealth of data that have been presented.
Here's some data for you.
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
John Williams wrote:
Um... that's the plot of the book. She's a sexbot designed
for having sex with humans but there aren't any humans left
to have sex with...
Now I'm wondering what happened to all the humans. I'll definitely
have to check it out now.
Since I
Thank you for correcting me again, Julia. It's been many years since I taught
Social Studies and I plead early Alzeimer's!~)
Jon
CCC = Civilian Conservation Corps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps
WWW? Dunno. Did Jon mean WPA? That would be Works
Progress
That was what I was thinking too, but inspiration did not
strike. The
whole subject just makes me too sad. WSJ did a poll the
other day
and more than 75% of the respondents thought the bailout
was a bad
idea, and yet the prediction markets are saying the bailout
has better
than a 75%
Eh, if you do, I'll cover it. It'll give me an
excuse to see the guy if I
insist on delivering it in person. :)
Julia
Let us know what you find out; I'll reimburse you if he actually takes you up
on it!~)
Jon
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It's just how it is. In general, people on this List
are very well
read and know a lot. But we don't all know the same
stuff. Which it's
why it's great to see people try to back up their
opinions, and in the
best discussions, see a mind changed here and there.
Charlie.
that has
You are Eric Reuter and I demand my 10 bucks.
Who are you, John, who is Eric Reuter, and why does he owe you 10 clams?
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http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_09_21-2008_09_27.shtml#1222184010
There are low-probability catastrophic
risks on both sides. When you consider
the fact that the bailout also has severe
non-catastrophic costs that have a very
high probability of occurring, the case
for it still
drafting our leadership would if
nothing else give us a government
that actually represents us, and
would remove the incentive to exploit
the power of the office for the
sole purpose of getting re-elected,
which is what we have now. It's
much harder to game that system than
1) The two campaigns agreed to a simplified
format for the debate between the VP candidates,
ostensibly so that Ms. Palin can have
opportunities to present Mr. McCain’s positions,
rather than spending time talking about
her experience or playing defense.
2) McCain suggested that
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
The candidates should change the topic to the economy, but of course McCain
isn't prepared...
Well he's been busy, you know... um, stopping his campaigning. You know how
it is with campaigns and momentum. Apparently
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Thank you for correcting me again, Julia. It's been many years since I
taught Social Studies and I plead early Alzeimer's!~)
Jon
You're welcome, although my primary intent was not to correct an error,
but to provide information to answer a
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/25/odd.it/index.html?imw=Yiref=mpstoryemail
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At 02:12 PM Wednesday 9/24/2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Ah, Conservapedia... It never ceases to be fun...
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Critical_Thinking_in_Math
Did someone (was it me?) mention Fundamentalist Math?
Alberto Monteiro
PS: I must confess a sin... I've been
John wrote:
So, what do you all think?
Nixon vs Bush (the son). Which was worse?
Bush is the worst by far. Nixon had a few positive things going on
(detente, China), he appointed moderate judges and he inherited Viet Nam.
Bush has nothing, absolutely nothing positive to tout unless you're
Rich wrote:
Doug said:
But you must have read thousands of pages of history!
About sixty thousand pages of history, I'd estimate. Not nearly
enough, anyway.
Well that sounds like a hell of a lot to me. I've read a bit of American
history, especially the Civil War, but I don't have the
Jon wrote:
You are Eric Reuter and I demand my 10 bucks.
Who are you, John, who is Eric Reuter, and why does he owe you 10 clams?
Eric is a former Brin-ler, a libertarian, and he didn't pull any verbal
punches. He told by Dr. Brin to leave the list (or he would) after a
heated exchange.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Max Battcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a side note however, I've been arguing that killing the current
trade-in market (albeit preferably via DDNs rather than draconian DRM) will
benefit gaming in the long run because the only remaining game-targeted
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