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for married couples in exchange
for the couples producing children to be future citizens who pay
future taxes or to go to fight Germans in future wars or whatever; gay
couples cannot reasonably enter into this deal;
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you want to be, Julia, I'm sure you'll get
there soon -- I can't imagine how hard it is to keep perfectly fit after
what your body has been through!
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 06:15:34PM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote:
Seems the problem is a bit unconstrained...
I predict a pun may is in the offing...
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http://economist.com/opinion/PrinterFriendly.cfm?Story_ID=2459758
The case for gay marriage
Feb 26th 2004
From The Economist print edition
It rests on equality, liberty and even society
SO AT last it is official: George Bush is in favour of unequal rights,
big-government intrusiveness and
Awww, pooor Jan. Hurt his itty bitty ego when he couldn't
support absurdities with a wittle evidence wevidence. Aww.
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 02:04:49PM -, iaamoac wrote:
IAAMOAC to you too Mac.
I'm certainly not a member of YOUR civilization. Now, if I started a
constitutional amendment to stop you from marrying certain women that I
don't approve of, then maybe I would be in your ballpark...
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 04:04:38PM -, iaamoac wrote:
Which is, of course, exactly what David Brin meant by that.
I don't think it means what you think it means. It certainly doesn't
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 06:40:05PM -, iaamoac wrote:
A much closer analogy would be a society that had always only
permitted same-sex unions... alas, any such ociety would now no
longer exist.
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law) to coerce people to your will vs.
writing a few emails expressing an opinion? Pathetic.
We do NOT send terse, one line replies.
I do. And I stopped reading hear. Goodbye! Discuss with yourself, 'cause
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 07:27:02AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By the way, since some people seem to not know me very well, I
should point out that I never mean to discourage anyone from writing
anything they want to post. If it appears like I am doing so
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 10:06:18PM +, Richard Baker wrote:
And I am *shocked*, SHOCKED, *SHOCKED*, *SHOCKED!!!* that Erik didn't
write this! ...or did he?
Too easy.
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be allowed to have children.
S, we don't tell 'em that until it's too late!
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 02:09:18PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik Reuter wrote:
You know, a lesbian couple could have BOTH members impregnated by
artificial insemination. They could produce children at TWICE THE
RATE of a heterosexual couple
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 09:21:17AM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 10:41:14PM +, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
You are completely wrong in your arguments. This is nonsense. What is
the benefit of producing children at twice the rate?
World
not a totally unheard-of rate among heterosexual
couples, either.
Or they could go continuously but 180 degrees (4.5 months) out of
phase...
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in
private.
Surely your misguided comments should not be posted at all, Jon. This
was a relevant counter-example and not the slightest bit insulting
(unusual from Fool, yes, but nevertheless...)
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quintuplets? Then both women could have quintuplets every nine months!
Now THAT'S an efficient production line!
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of that particular satire!
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On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 06:44:56PM -, iaamoac wrote:
Actually, it was irrelevant Erik.
Hardly. It is a similar problem, but you treat it doesn't seem to offend
you, since it doesn't hamper your efforts to coerce others to follow
your whims.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/02/040219075606.htm
Prolonged exposure to low-level magnetic fields, similar to those
emitted by such common household devices as blow dryers, electric
blankets and razors, can damage brain cell DNA, according to researchers
in the University of
with a compatible gay male
couple, and sperm from both men could be inserted inside both women.
One child could live with the men and one with the women (assuming they
don't all want to live together in one house). The children could grow
up knowing all of their parents. Sounds healthy and happy to me.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:28:03AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Nothing happened to them. I'm not sure what that has to do with the
current discussion, though.
How disappointing :-(
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, unnatural act of front penetration which
threatens the stability of our great nation. That is why I am currently
working on a amendment to ban marriage for Catholics. Of course, that is
just a start...
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:44:42PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
You know, Erik, you might want to ask for a refund from that Dale
Carnegie course you took . . .
You know Ronn, you might want to ask for a refund from that college you
went to...
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.)
Is it really so difficult to follow the reasoning? You so missed the
point...
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:13:12PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
As, apparently, did you . . .
What ever happened to your God-given predictions?
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about other evildoers like you, until the danger you pose to American's
freedom has ended, until we have won the war against anti-freedom
cowards.
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example, taxes that support schools that provide a good education
for anyone, regardless of wealth. Without that, the children of poor
families certainly don't get the same opportunities as the children of
wealthy families. There are other examples.
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and high. In other words, unless
you are at zero taxes, there is always a lower tax possible that is
below a higher tax.
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of uncomfortable that you can't explain
and impose it on someone else? What makes your vague feeling more
important than someone else's strong feeling that they can explain? How
in the hell is your vague feeling more important than rational, logical
arguments that others have made?
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on your typing fingers) so it
doesn't flap so inanely next time.
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marriage,
by my words and actions I do NOT support anti-gay marriage laws or
constitutional amendments.
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mouth and
having a knee-jerk reaction. Fine, he is entitled to his opinion, but I
am damn well going to reply sharply to people who make posts implying
that their unexplainable feeling of uncomfortable has any bearing on
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:11:26PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If my questions were sharp castigation, then his statement was a lot
more than an expression of concern.
Nah.
Yah. You are applying a double-standard. Literally, I was asking
questions
which would ban using the word marriage to refer to gay unions?
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:10:59PM -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
I have yet to see a clear statement from him that Although I have
irrational feelings about gay marriage, by my words and actions I do
NOT support anti-gay marriage laws or constitutional amendments
your occasional
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! Thanks for the clarification.
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:42:57PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
Whenever I disagree with you?
No, when you are irrational and do not realize it, which occasionally
occurs when religion is part of the discussion.
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(or not) off the record.
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the truth to say it damned with faint praise. It came off a lot like
some of my best friends are black.
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grab someone's attention and get them
to really think about an issue. I would agree that the approach you
explain will sometimes be the most effective course, but not always,
maybe not even usually.
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there is a next
time after the first one, that is . . .
Yawn. You try it, I've got better things to do.
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 04:32:36PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?
Yawn. You try it, I've got better
constantly and then whine and whimper when
he snaps back)
Ha, ha!
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audience. I think that both approaches may be successful
depending on the person and circumstances. For example, even before I
read your post I would have said the reserved approach would be more
successful on you (Julia). Alas, not everyone is like Julia! ;-)
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in politics are frequently so complex that
reasonable people can come to different conclusions about the same
issue.
And I almost never listen to you because usually your posts are so inane
or else totally miss the point, such as this comment.
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and bad for you!
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 07:40:50PM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Will apologies from the list be forthcoming also?
Do you mean to imply that his due-process rights were not violated?
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...and the (successfully engendered) much more
interesting conversation about philosophy.
In other words, if you can't refute the points, call your opponents
fanatics (I'm sure the writers of the Economist would get a laugh out of
being called fanatics) and change the subject to philosophy...
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An election-year farce
Feb 5th 2004 | WASHINGTON, DC
From The Economist print edition
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2410569
excerpt:
If this all looks too good to be true, it is. For once, the
administration has not fiddled the books by relying on unrealistically
http://www.economist.com/world/na/displayStory.cfm?Story_id=2404984
Let the dollar drop
Feb 5th 2004
From The Economist print edition
Excerpt:
Normally, when a government's budget deficit swells so fast (to
4.6% of GDP this year, from a surplus of 2.4% of GDP in 2000) and its
currency is
be spamming innocent victims!
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a realized you needed to stop.
But you STILL didn't remove the Brin: from the subject line! I flipped
the i here, so at least he won't be getting flagged by this one, or
others' replies to this one.
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? Something else? I'm just trying to understand how
specialized these triggers were.
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By the way, obviously the humidity in the bathroom rises from the shower
spewing hot water. But I don't know how much it rises, and I forgot to
mention this in my previous message since I am implicitly assuming the
shower ADDS to whatever humidity is already present in the air before
turning on
weapon. Is there
any other use you can think of that does not involve a weapon?
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It has always seemed to me, that as long as the business doesn't
directly involve weapons, it is probably beneficial in the long run to
establish commercial ties with countries that we would like to become
more free. First commercial ties, then naturally personal and family
ties, and finally
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excerpt:
But what makes NASA's human-spaceflight programme most unfortunate is
that it consumes two-thirds of the agency's budget, and squeezes the
scientifically useful things (such as the Mars rovers) that the agency
does, and does well. That is likely to get worse with the budget
of difference,
the Democrat presidents were still way ahead.
I doubt JDG read it, though, since he is afraid to read my posts because
he might see a distressing word.
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of economic growth. I'll pick the
best 8 years as the 8 years with the greatest growth. I'd call that
bending over backwards to give Reagan and Bush a fair shake.
Sounds interesting. I'd like to see that analysis!
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for the Republicans to make them look bad w.r.t. the poor, since
the years you picked actually beat Clinton in overall GDP growth.
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pretty solid, and I can remember a few instances when
he was mistaken and owned up to it. I don't think fast-and-loose
describes his use of facts at all.
I was thinking the same thing myself, but you said it better than I
would have.
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. He hasn't updated it for a while, but it is more up to
date than the one I posted so long ago:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/6113/extend14.txt
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and Goldwater seem a half-hearted fiscal moderate,
social liberal, big government pragmaticst.
At least Reagan made some significant spending cuts. And when the
deficit skyrocketed, he even raised taxes if I recall. I don't expect to
see such fiscal semi-responsibility from this Bush.
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will cost
you some money.
That's really the only practical way I know. I can think of only 4 ways
to access the internet, satellite, cellular network, switched telephone
network, or wired-data network. Most of those require a contract of some
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On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 04:10:53PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
That's really the only practical way I know. I can think of only 4
ways to access the internet, satellite, cellular network, switched
telephone network, or wired-data network. Most of those require a
contract of some sort.
Actually
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:53:45PM -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote:
As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin suggested that I donate part
of each sale I make at my store to an appropriate charity, as a way to
promote my store and do good at the same time. Which groups do good
work preserving
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 09:09:09AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote:
I just don't get it sometimes.
You can say that again!
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On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 07:32:50AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote:
You know I find it ironic after reading Doug's rant that if I did
the same thing for a historical movie I might be labled as being
pedantic...
Pre-emptive whining? Now I've seen everything...
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 09:09:20AM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
Not that many, but a fair bit (that many kilometres). I'm leasing over
USD100,000 worth of automobile,
Wow again! What kind of vehicle is it?
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On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 12:33:29PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
(the photo taken in the garage shows what the 2004 GTO looked like in
Australia in 2001)
Oh, 2 cars. But still, I didn't know those cost $50K.
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Rights to remember
How has September 11th changed America's approach to human
rights? Dangerously, suggests Harold Hongju Koh, but perhaps only
temporarily
Oct 30th 2003 | NEW HAVEN, CONNECTICUT
From The Economist print edition
Harold Hongju Koh is professor of international law at Yale
Russia's, China's, or Saudi Arabia's.
Statistical analysis from one case is not really that sound.
Agreed. Of course, there is a lot more than one case. There are quite a
few countries in the world.
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and treat them as sub-human by holding
them for years in inhumane circumstances like some fascist dictatorship
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Cowards and bigots take away the rights of others in order to protect
their own skins. Self-confident adults extend fair treatment to everyone
they encounter and accept the risks that freedom entails in order to
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of the time. If you
consistently come up with the most and best ideas while filtering out
the really bad ideas, you have a tremendous edge over people who are
taking their choices from a broader distribution.
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:37:04AM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Historical illiterates should be careful about the references they
use.
True illiterates should be careful about misreading what was written.
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will outgrow your fear, hatred,
and lack of fair consideration for others not like you. I hope so.
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eaten into the coating on the screen, in
which case not a lot can be done.
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Since the issue of Britain's views on holding people prisoner without
fair trial came up, I thought I would repost an editorial I posted in
July from the British newspaper The Economist. My impression (Britons,
correct me if I'm wrong) is that the editorial expresses the sentiment
of a majority of
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:29:10PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Erik Reuter wrote:
Have you ever met anyone who makes hot chocolate without SOME form
of milk? Whole, 2%, skim, dry milk, something besides water? Darn
ivory tower research! :-)
I tried it once
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:30:59AM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Most surveys say that upwards of _90%_ of reporters vote Democratic.
What does that say?
Inquisitive, well-informed people vote Democratic? :-)
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did he not say, I have never used
cocaine becasue it is a dangerous drug that can destroy lives and I want
to make that clear. No one should use cocaine.
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 07:26:21AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
I didn't realize UFOs were involved. But, then, I've not made a
detailed study of it.
No one has. THAT's why their unidentified!
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:38:23AM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Well, most CEOs vote Republican, which suggests that competent,
capable people vote Republican. :-)
Dishonest, greedy, take advantage of shareholders people, you mean? :-)
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of the second, and not a mention of the
first. Let's just say that I think that's noticeable.
I'd say some incredible discrimination is noticable. All of them are
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affect your marriage and your job?
No.
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:03:07AM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Oh, good.
blow job = good
blow up nose = bad
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
You're welcome. You may now return to your regularly scheduled blow job.
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trial that all people are entitled to.
Innocent until proven guilty, you may have forgotten in your war on all
non-Americans zeal.
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.
That you consistently deny this is very sad.
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are better than the people in Guantanamo have a right to.
Spoken like a true bigot. I certainly hope you are never in a position
of deciding justice, seeing as how innocent until proven guilty seems to
be a meaningless concept to you.
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