Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-23 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:16 PM 2/22/03 -0600, The Fool wrote: Mary wrote: Sam wrote: Henry wrote: Elizabeth wrote: How do I stop my cat eating the furniture? Have you tried putting a velcro cover on? That's ok if you do not have children, but they tear the velcro - what then? Try guaranteed child-proof

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-22 Thread The Fool
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes) Date: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:15 PM Wrong! In Alabama, the value of pie is Pecan. George A P.S. Sorry, I couldn't help it. Top Posting == BAD

Top Posting: (Was: RE: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes))

2003-02-22 Thread Jon Gabriel
Starship SS Buttcrack' ~Chrichton / Farscape -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes) From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-22 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:20 PM 2/21/03 -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote: G. D. Akin wrote: Wrong! In Alabama, the value of pie is Pecan. I had a funny moment in the grocery store one day, when I walked by a table with someone handing out free samples of apple pie, and noticed that they were selling it for $3.14. Oh,

Re: Top Posting: (Was: RE: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes))

2003-02-22 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
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Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-22 Thread G. D. Akin
I have no idea what you are taking about. George A - Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:56 AM Subject: Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes) From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-22 Thread The Fool
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have no idea what you are taking about. http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm The following question was asked on a newsgroup: Please excuse my ignorance but I visit occasionally and read the mail and have contributed a little, but have now

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-21 Thread G. D. Akin
Wrong! In Alabama, the value of pie is Pecan. George A P.S. Sorry, I couldn't help it. - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:43 AM Subject: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes) From: The Fool [EMAIL

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-21 Thread Steve Sloan II
G. D. Akin wrote: Wrong! In Alabama, the value of pie is Pecan. I had a funny moment in the grocery store one day, when I walked by a table with someone handing out free samples of apple pie, and noticed that they were selling it for $3.14. Oh, pie for pi, I blurted, and the woman handing out

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: Denying the Holocaust does contain an opinion, even if stupid, and it is not clear that it is harmful (eg., it could be credibly argued that as long as there are only a few Holocaust deniers, and they are always loudly and competently refuted by other people, it

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bob Zimmerman wrote: It is much more than not a good idea. It means that someone gets to decide what you can say and what you can't. Some goverments could decide to ban holocaust history _Could_? I bet that in most [if not all] Arab countries the History of the Holocaust is banned.

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 20 Feb 2003 at 9:31, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bob Zimmerman wrote: It is much more than not a good idea. It means that someone gets to decide what you can say and what you can't. Some goverments could decide to ban holocaust history _Could_? I bet that in most [if not all]

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Andrew Crystall wrote: As a sidenote, in America the Holocaust was established by a court case as a fact and thus technically holocaust deniers could be taken to court on that basis. Uh? Does it mean that someone could be taken to a court by claiming that Pi = 4? Or by denying

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Uh? Does it mean that someone could be taken to a court by claiming that Pi = 4? No, they just have

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Minette wrote: Uh? Does it mean that someone could be taken to a court by claiming that Pi = 4? No, they just have a very unusual float to integer transform, which rounds up instead of truncates. :-) Or by denying Evolution? But evolution isn't a fact its a theory.

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread The Fool
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Crystall wrote: As a sidenote, in America the Holocaust was established by a court case as a fact and thus technically holocaust deniers could be taken to court on that basis. Uh? Does it mean that someone could be taken to a

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 20 Feb 2003 at 11:05, The Fool wrote: From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Crystall wrote: As a sidenote, in America the Holocaust was established by a court case as a fact and thus technically holocaust deniers could be taken to court on that basis.

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-20 Thread Bryon Daly
Julia Thompson wrote: Anyone know if the state-run liquor stores in NH are open on Sundays? :) You'd give up some revenue if they weren't Some are, check out the store hours on the Salem one here: http://www.state.nh.us/liquor/outlet_stores/outlet_stores.htm I think the Sunday revenue

Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:05:16 -0600 From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Crystall wrote: As a sidenote, in America

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-20 Thread The Fool
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:05:16 -0600 From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew

Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes)

2003-02-20 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pi in the Sky (Was: Re: EU thought crimes) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:46:23 -0600 From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 19 Feb 2003 at 9:02, The Fool wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/02/18/nxeno1 8.xm lsSheet=/portal/2003/02/18/ixportal.htmlsecureRefresh=true_requesti d=52 132 snip And good on em. Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Andy Dawn Falcon

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Richard Baker
Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors of the Ukrainian terror-famine be a crime? Or the mass killings by the Khmer Rouge? How about the genocide of the Armenians? Or the Amritsar massacre? Where do you want to draw a line and why? Rich

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 19 Feb 2003 at 17:20, Richard Baker wrote: Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors of the Ukrainian terror-famine be a crime? Or the mass killings by the Khmer Rouge? How about the genocide of the Armenians? Or the Amritsar massacre?

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:20:21 + Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:51:29PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 19 Feb 2003 at 17:20, Richard Baker wrote: Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors of the Ukrainian terror-famine be a crime? Or the mass killings by the Khmer

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:56:57PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: It should be a crime to publish such books and call them fact, ... I think that historical revisionism in general is wrong. When intended to justify acts of horror, racism and hatred, it should be criminal. Of Course

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:20 AM Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 19 Feb 2003 at 12:52, Erik Reuter wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:51:29PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 19 Feb 2003 at 17:20, Richard Baker wrote: Andy said: Holocaust denial SHOULD be a crime. Why should it? Should denying the horrors of the Ukrainian

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:56:36 -0500 On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:56:57PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: It should be a crime

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: Re: EU thought crimes On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:51:29PM -, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 19 Feb 2003 at 17:20, Richard Baker wrote

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:29:05 -0600 - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Richard Baker
Andy said: I'm Jewish and have VERY strong views on the subject. So I'm afraid you won't get anywhere with me on that topic. How about the argument that singling out the Holocaust as something in a special category of horribleness rather than collecting it with other instances of

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Richard Baker
Dan said: I would side with Rich here. Deniers of the Holocaust should be fought with the truth. It is not a good idea for the government to decide what is false and then deny people the right to voice that opinion. Indeed, one might say that state control of truth is one of the things that

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Reggie Bautista
Erik wrote: Religion is a mind-killer. Denying THAT SHOULD be a crime. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ Reggie Bautista _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:42:31 -0600 Erik wrote: Religion is a mind-killer. Denying THAT SHOULD be a crime. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ Reggie

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: EU thought crimes From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Reggie Bautista
Dan M. wrote: I'll try to find a worldwide survey, but the point of my statement is that being Jewish is not primarily a religious/theological experience. This is completely non-scientific, but about 80% of the Jewish people I know are only socially religious (they go because of family, like

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EU thought crimes Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:17:42 -0600 - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: If I were you, I wouldn't personally assume that many/most Jews are atheists unless I had more than anecdotal evidence to back it up. I don't mean this unkindly. I just think the blanket statement was inaccurate. Many Jews are atheists, or agnostic. I wouldn't say most

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:52:39PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erik wrote: Religion is a mind-killer. Denying THAT SHOULD be a crime. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ Thanks for posting this link. :) That should also be a crime. -- Erik

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/19/2003 1:10:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would side with Rich here. Deniers of the Holocaust should be fought with the truth. It is not a good idea for the government to decide what is false and then deny people the right to voice that

Re: EU thought crimes

2003-02-19 Thread Bryon Daly
Jon Gabriel wrote: Are Blue Laws still active in New England? I remember that most stores gas stations were closed on Sunday in New Hampshire when I was little. Jon There are still some blue laws here in New England, and in New Jersey as well. Most commonly, they prohibit buying package