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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of David Hobby
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:11 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: What is wealth?
Dan M wrote:
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O.K., let me try
It's based on a number of things, but I think the single item that stood out
for me was the male life expectancy: 59.2 years. 25 years ago, it was over
70 years (at least officially). This drop is absolutely amazing.
Demographers have Russias population reducing to under 70 million by 2050.
Demographers have Russias population reducing to under 70 million by 2050.
Wow, that's about 4 per sq. km. And with China around 140 per sq. km.,
maybe dropping a bit to 125 per sq. km by then, just to it's south, that's a
problem waiting to happenespecially with the male/female disparity
Hi Dan, I am interested to hear what your basis is for saying that
Russia is falling out of the developed world.
It's based on a number of things, but I think the single item that stood out
for me was the male life expectancy: 59.2 years. 25 years ago, it was over
70 years (at least
Demographers have Russias population reducing to under 70 million by 2050.
Wow, that's about 4 per sq. km. And with China around 140 per sq. km.,
maybe dropping a bit to 125 per sq. km by then, just to it's south, that's a
problem waiting to happenespecially with the male/female
Dan M said..
So, we are within a decade of this type of drastic drop in poor country
populations being confined to Sub-Sahara Africa. Fertility rates are
falling around the world, but nowhere so drastic (besides Russia which is
falling out of the developed world) as in the highly
Dan M wrote:
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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: What is wealth?
Wealth can be defined
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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 6:52 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: What is wealth?
Dan M wrote:
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Look at the wealthiest
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Behalf Of Kevin B. O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:00 PM
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The countries with high fertility rates
Dan M wrote:
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The countries with high
There are two authors who have a decent handle on historical
wealth. Azar Gat is one of them,
http://cniss.wustl.edu/workshoppapers/gatpres1.pdf
Gregory Clark is the other,
one http://www.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/papers/Capitalism%20Genes.pdf
If you prefer hearing to reading, try
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:22 PM
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Subject: Re: What is wealth?
Dan M wrote:
After the discussion about money
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:05 PM
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Wealth can be defined in evolutionary terms
On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Dan M wrote:
I think there is some viability in the sociobiological argument that
wealth
increases the attractiveness of men as mates. But, if you look at
the
selfish gene as an embodiment of sociobiology, you see that wealth
has had
a paradoxical
Dan M wrote:
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Look at the wealthiest countries in the world. With the exception of the
US, they have fertility rates below replacement, some (like Japan, Germany
and Italy) far below replacement.
The countries with high fertility rates tend to be poorer. Thus, wealth is
Dan M wrote:
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O.K., let me try. There is such a thing as concrete wealth.
Wealth lets an individual do things that they want to do. So
a person's individual wealth would be roughly defined relative
to some standard as the ratio of the utility of what they can
do to what they could do in
Wealth is making $100 more than your wife's sister's husband, according to
H.L. Mencken. I think he's on to something there.
To me, the basic definition is that it is a measure of well-being. It has
many dimensions.
Nick
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At 12:01 PM Thursday 12/11/2008, Nick Arnett wrote:
Wealth is making $100 more than your wife's sister's husband, according to
H.L. Mencken.
I think others have suggested that it's making more than your wife
can spend . . .
Don't Shoot The Messenger Maru
. . . ronn! :)
Unimaginable wealth is a child finding a real
silver dollar.
Actual wealth is never picking up a dropped quarter.
Financial stability is looking at the dime as you think
of your two choices.
Absolute poverty is remembering where the hole
in your trousers is as you bend at the knees to pick
of the concept of wealth, and
all our elaborations and abstractions don't change that much.
Olin
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From: Ronn! Blankenshipmailto:ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net
To: Killer Bs Discussionmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: 12/11/2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: What is wealth
Dan M wrote:
After the discussion about money as a social construct, it occurred to me
that that there is something more fundamental underlying this. It is
whether wealth is concrete or just an abstract concept.
One way to ask it is whether the world is actually wealthier than it was 100
Dan M wrote:
After the discussion about money as a social construct, it occurred to me
that that there is something more fundamental underlying this. It is
whether wealth is concrete or just an abstract concept.
Dan--
O.K., let me try. There is such a thing as concrete wealth.
Wealth lets
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