Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2010-01-01 Thread David Hobby
... It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker. The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo. ... If we want the articles

RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-31 Thread Julia Thompson
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of David Hobby Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:42 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/ ... It seems like

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Trent Shipley wrote: David Brin is an important science fiction author so he merits mention in Wikipedia. The Jijo trilogy merits mention. Each book in the trilogy merits an article. However, each book is based on an ensemble cast. Alvin is an ensemble character in trilogy by an author

RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Julia
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:35 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/ It seems like they are

RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia wrote: The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo. It must be a Brin-hater. Any clue to the identity of the troll? Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing we could do.

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread David Hobby
... It seems like they are running a seek-and-destroy against every Brin stuff in wikipedia. After Alvin, the trolls will delete Streaker. The Troll is targeting for deletion: Gubru, G'Kek, EarthClan, Tymbrimi, Streaker (David Brin), Jophur, and Alvin Hph-wayuo. It must be a Brin-hater.

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: So the user is Abductive, and he seems to spend a lot of time proposing articles for deletion. It's probably an attack account: a sock puppet of a known user, created to give anonimity to a coward behavior (if it used the _real_ account, we might retaliate by proposing

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Don't you also need a picture of his face for that? -- Matt - Original Message From: Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 8:08:00 AM Subject: RE: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Matt Grimaldi wrote: It must be a Brin-hater. Any clue to the identity of the troll? Who cares? Unless you are the owner of a Death Note, there's nothing we could do. Don't you also need a picture of his face for that? Yes - but it's easier to get the picture from the name than the

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again (III) :-/

2009-12-29 Thread Trent Shipley
Alberto Monteiro wrote: David Hobby wrote: So the user is Abductive, and he seems to spend a lot of time proposing articles for deletion. It's probably an attack account: a sock puppet of a known user, created to give anonimity to a coward behavior (if it used the _real_

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo Alberto-- Hi. I think you can make a good case to keep it, since it involves a major character in a series of popular science fiction novels. No, not my language, not my place to battle. I've tried to keep the Portuguese

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: David Hobby wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo Alberto-- Hi. I think you can make a good case to keep it, since it involves a major character in a series of popular science fiction novels. No, not my language, not my place to battle. I've tried to

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread sendai
On 28/12/2009, at 11:23 AM, tship...@deru.com wrote: Let's be more ambitious. I've gone the other way and reduced the scope to just Uplift. It's currently hosted on Wikia, and I've only just started dumping some of the lists (along with the Alvin stub) from Wikipedia to it, so it's not an issue

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Nick Arnett
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, tship...@deru.com wrote: I did not send the original to the list. Feel free to forward this to the list. I'm partial to MediaWiki. I have installed MediaWiki here: http://www.nickarnett.net/sfwiki/ We can create a domain name for it and point it there

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Nick Arnett
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: And... anybody have a logo? Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
David Hobby wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: David Hobby wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo Alberto-- Hi. I think you can make a good case to keep it, since it involves a major character in a series of popular science fiction novels. No, not my language, not my place to

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote: Alberto-- Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going back and forth with the troll, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo Some of this is because I don't really understand his criteria, or what the problem is

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread Max Battcher
On 12/28/2009 5:18, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Yes, it's a stub, and fortunately so. Another stupid decision made in the English wikipedia was that spoilers are _not_ marked as such. Just take a look a the article about English Wikipedia does provide standard spoiler warning templates, but

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-28 Thread David Hobby
Charlie Bell wrote: On 29/12/2009, at 3:44 AM, David Hobby wrote: Alberto-- Wow, I guess it is my place to battle. I've been going back and forth with the troll, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alvin_Hph-wayuo Some of this is because I don't really understand his criteria, or what

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread tshipley
Let's be more ambitious. A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki! (And just when I needed a new project too.) --Original Message-- From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro To: Brin-L ReplyTo: Brin-L Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/ Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM Article

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread Nick Arnett
I could host it along with the list. I even set up a wiki there, which I'm not using. Nick On 12/27/09, tship...@deru.com tship...@deru.com wrote: Let's be more ambitious. A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki! (And just when I needed a new project too.) --Original Message--

[Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Trent Shipley
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Re: [Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Dave Land
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Re: [Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread David Hobby
Trent Shipley wrote: ... A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis. Given the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki. In short, you can have both. ... From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira

Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: I could host it along with the list. I even set up a wiki there, which I'm not using. Sent that from my phone while waiting to see Sherlock Holmes (quite good, but I had trouble understanding some of the dialog for