RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:33:36 -0400 At 08:33 PM 7/29/2003 -0500 Horn, John wrote: I'm not sure

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-31 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
John D Giorgis wrote: I disagree with this. Suicide bombings, hijackings, Oklahoma City-style bombings, etc. all strike me as fairly modern inventions. At 14:08 2003-07-31 -0400, you wrote: No, hijackings and truck bombings are modern inventions technologically but the targeting of civilian

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 03:11 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 Horn, John wrote: I don't know. It is a scary proposition. We cannot defeat every terrorist in the world. We cannot? Then why is it that suicide bombing is almost unheard of almost everywhere in the world? It doesn't strike me

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-30 Thread Ritu
John D. Giorgis wrote: I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Terrorism has existed for recorded history. Don't forget that when they win, terrorists are called freedom fighters or revolutionaries. I disagree with this. Suicide bombings, hijackings, Oklahoma City-style

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-29 Thread Horn, John
From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:11 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 Horn, John wrote: I don't know. It is a scary proposition. We cannot defeat every terrorist in the world. We cannot? Then why is it that suicide bombing is almost unheard of almost everywhere in the world?

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-27 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:11 PM 7/24/2003 -0500 Horn, John wrote: I don't know. It is a scary proposition. We cannot defeat every terrorist in the world. We cannot? Then why is it that suicide bombing is almost unheard of almost everywhere in the world? It doesn't strike me that this problem is necessarily

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-27 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:22 PM 7/25/03 -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 08:09 AM 7/21/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: Perhaps we are at war, but under that definition, I'm having a very hard time imagining that we will ever NOT be at war. We are not going to remove evil from the world, I'm quite sure. Some likely

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-27 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/25/2003 10:22:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) The establishment of a secure, viable and independent Palestine alongside Israel. 2) Regime change in Iran, Syria, Lybia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the DPRK We would then be at war for at least a

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-27 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would then be at war for at least a decade. Does that mean we can't criticize bush or the gop for that long? Golly Which, of course, no one is saying, except those making indefensible criticisms and they trying to hide their partisan motivations behind a

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-26 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:09 AM 7/21/2003 -0700 Nick Arnett wrote: Perhaps we are at war, but under that definition, I'm having a very hard time imagining that we will ever NOT be at war. We are not going to remove evil from the world, I'm quite sure. Some likely conditions; 1) The establishment of a secure, viable

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-26 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Nick Arnett wrote: If this is not the future we want to create, then shouldn't we return to normal political discourse, in which one is not branded a traitor for questioning the leadership. If we can't question and criticize our leaders today, what is going to change to allow us to

RE: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-24 Thread Horn, John
From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How does this end? Can anyone offer a definition of the conditions necessary for us to return to peacetime, or whatever one might properly call 'normal' conditions? It ends when the US has dominated all the other countries in the world, I

When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-21 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John D. Giorgis ... No, we are at war because September 11th caused this President to recognize that we had long since been at war in a way that we had not previously recognized.Moreover, 9/11

Re: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words)

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:09 AM Subject: When does it end? (RE: Seth Finkelstein on 16 words) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED